1st Time Diamond Buyer (Need Advice) is ONLINE Safe?

[bunnycat]

I think you are on the right track. But what weight is the stone you posted the picture and ASET of? I hope it isn't 1 ct. since it is only 6.2mm.

It was a 1.02 ct

That means the stone is very deep. 6.2 is about what a nicely cut .90 stone should measure physically. You can't just go by the weight, you also need to look at the diameter. A nicely cut 1 ct stone ought to measure about 6.4-6.5mm.

 

[bunnycat]

I found this Diamond and it look pretty good, but I have to wait for the report.


This is a 1.03 and the Measurement is 6.45x6.51x3.90

a good diamond is between 6.4 to 6.5 correct?


http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3272449-1.03-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-Clarity.aspx?sku=3272449&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Those look better for a 1ct stone.

 

[ph19]

How is the measurement on this ring it's in my price range of $4900, but waiting on the report?

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3291119-1.00-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-Clarity.aspx?sku=3291119&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

 

[JulieN]

63% table is too risky for me to bother with calling a virtual stone in.

 

[JulieN]

Are you purposefully looking for low depth, medium-large table combo to get some spread? Here are two Is with medium blue fluorescence!

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.04-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-198492
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-199533

 

[ph19]

63% table is too risky for me to bother with calling a virtual stone in.

For Table I am guessing anything Under 62% is good?

 

[bunnycat]

63% table is too risky for me to bother with calling a virtual stone in.

For Table I am guessing anything Under 62% is good?

If you are looking for an ideal cut round you want the table in the 54-57 range.

Depth is the thing you want below 62 (60-62 or 62.3)

crown angle 34-35

pavilion angle around 40.8

 

[ph19]

Thanks JuileN,

I'll look around for Diamond with the Spec

Finding a Diamond is like finding a wife.......LOL

 

[JulieN]

GIA EX grade goes up to 61 and I think AGS Ideal goes up to 62.

I somewhat doubt you can find a 1 ct H SI1, eye-clean, with a 54-57 table, depth below 62. For less than $5000 you need to consider I color, SI2 clarity, and somewhat off-cuts that are cheaper to produce than a Tolkowsky Ideal.

 

[ph19]

JulieN,

Would I color look yellow? I am willing to hit $5200, but I don't believe I can go higher for now.

I notice your links are mainly from James Allen, have you purchase from them and always been happy? If so may I get a contact of a person you work with and I can ask them to look for me?

Even thought I am looking for a GIA diamond, but if the Color and Clarity being so low, would that be like a EGL F and VS2 quality? or is GIA low standard still better than EGL Med Standard?

I really would like to know everyone's insight and many thanks for ALL your help.

Everyone been really helpful

 

[JulieN]

I color is pretty darn white, you will only be able to see a mere whisper of color from the top in specific circumstances. Tiffany sells I color. "Faint yellow" does not even start until K color.

If I change the depth and table parameters into the PS database that are Tolkowsky-like this is what I get:
We have 21 Round diamonds between 1.01-1.15 carat, $0-$5500, D-H color, FL-Sl1 clarity, Excellent-n/a HCA, labs: GIA, AGS;
Advanced: depth 58-62.3, table 50-57, symmetry Ideal-Very Good, polish Ideal-Very Good, fluorescence Very Strong-n/a.

21 diamonds really means like 7 because they are listed multiple times... and I bet they aren't eye-clean. Notice I left out 1.00 ct, which I consider sifting through to be a waste of time without pictures, too many with poor spread due to thick girdles, or other cut problems.

So I have a lot of links from JA because if I'm going to be looking for SI2 or cheaper makes like VG symmetry stones or tables 58-61 to suggest to you, I need to be able to SEE it, I have to think it has a good chance of being eye-clean and should have very good to excellent cut, but are not as expensive. JA has a video on every single one that they list.

Have never done business with them but from what I've seen on the boards they have good (maybe not great boutique-level) customer service and more importantly, they do the right thing.

 

[ph19]

I color is pretty darn white, you will only be able to see a mere whisper of color from the top in specific circumstances. Tiffany sells I color. "Faint yellow" does not even start until K color.

If I change the depth and table parameters into the PS database that are Tolkowsky-like this is what I get:
We have 21 Round diamonds between 1.01-1.15 carat, $0-$5500, D-H color, FL-Sl1 clarity, Excellent-n/a HCA, labs: GIA, AGS;
Advanced: depth 58-62.3, table 50-57, symmetry Ideal-Very Good, polish Ideal-Very Good, fluorescence Very Strong-n/a.

21 diamonds really means like 7 because they are listed multiple times... and I bet they aren't eye-clean. Notice I left out 1.00 ct, which I consider sifting through to be a waste of time without pictures, too many with poor spread due to thick girdles, or other cut problems.

So I have a lot of links from JA because if I'm going to be looking for SI2 or cheaper makes like VG symmetry stones or tables 58-61 to suggest to you, I need to be able to SEE it, I have to think it has a good chance of being eye-clean and should have very good to excellent cut, but are not as expensive. JA has a video on every single one that they list.

Have never done business with them but from what I've seen on the boards they have good (maybe not great boutique-level) customer service and more importantly, they do the right thing.

B2c Jewels has a lot of Diamond, what do think about this one and it has the GIA Report to look at?

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3539874-1.03-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-SI1-Clarity.aspx?sku=3539874&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

 

[JulieN]

Numbers are fine but it is more expensive than you said you could .

 

[diamondseeker2006]

B2C is just listing diamonds from a diamond supplier much like Blue Nile or James Allen. Almost any vendor can get the stones listed by B2C. I once bought a diamond that was listed on both B2C and JA but had Good Old Gold access it from the supplier because I wanted them to check the light perfomance for me.

So B2C has to call in the stone to look at it and take the pictures for you, because I am sure they only have a fraction of the stones in their store.

 

[heididdl]

Again EGL is a for profit institution and yes sometimes EGL USA grading may be close to GIA but not as reliable. So as diamonseeker suggested stick to GIA. You will save money in the long run getting a G color diamond Si1 from GIA which might be a F VS1 EGL....

As EGL F VSI is most likely a H or I I1 so with GIA you get exactly what you pay for. Does that make sense

 

[ph19]

Numbers are fine but it is more expensive than you said you could .

Good morning JulieN and everyone that's been helpful,

Over the weekend I went back to Shaneco to look at more diamonds. we found a GIA 0.90 Ct SI1 and Color I. the Diamond looks great for $4300 and Fluorescence is Med Blue

Measurements 6.07 x 6.09x3.89

I still trying to find something in the 1ct range and going only for GIA or ASG as everyone suggested.

The store also had IGI, is that comparable to EGL?

Thanks for everyone Suggestions

 

[ph19]

B2C is just listing diamonds from a diamond supplier much like Blue Nile or James Allen. Almost any vendor can get the stones listed by B2C. I once bought a diamond that was listed on both B2C and JA but had Good Old Gold access it from the supplier because I wanted them to check the light perfomance for me.

So B2C has to call in the stone to look at it and take the pictures for you, because I am sure they only have a fraction of the stones in their store.

Thanks, JA also does does the idea scope testing too right? Was Good Old Gold cheaper in price?

 

[bunnycat]

Numbers are fine but it is more expensive than you said you could .

Good morning JulieN and everyone that's been helpful,

Over the weekend I went back to Shaneco to look at more diamonds. we found a GIA 0.90 Ct SI1 and Color I. the Diamond looks great for $4300 and Fluorescence is Med Blue

Measurements 6.07 x 6.09x3.89

I still trying to find something in the 1ct range and going only for GIA or ASG as everyone suggested.

The store also had IGI, is that comparable to EGL?

Thanks for everyone Suggestions

That's still facing up pretty small for a .9 stone. it's facing up like a nicely cut stone weighing around .85. If you need a range of dimension .9 stone really ought to measure right in the range 6.15-6.2 or very possibly a hair larger.