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AHHHHH, the top one aljdewey recommended is SOLD already! Someone beat me to it!
I better make my decision QUICK!
Is there a tutorial on how to read the Sarin report on here? I'll have no clue what it tells me and I need to decide quick!

quaeritur - you'd pick the top one Alexah recommended, even over the ones you found and recommended?

blueman - I feel safer going with one already recommended from someone else, rather than trying to pick one from the huge list! If you have already decided which of the 3 you are going to buy, could you email me links to the other 2 under $5,000? I'll take the 2nd best one!
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Mark at ERD just told me that the top one Alexah recommended has already been sold also!!!!!!!!!!
 
IF the Sarin shows good numbers, yes, I really like alexa's option -medium blue fluorescence will help an I color look whiter.

If you get a Sarin and post all the info on it here, folks will help you. The crucial info is:

crown angle
pavilion angle
girdle thickness (just to make sure it's within ideal parameters)
[edited to add: in addition to the total depth and table % you already have]

You can run the info yourself through the Holloway Cut Advisor (HCA), which is in the navigation bar above under Tools. That will help you weed out poor performing stones.

Since you're tight on time, another route I'd recommend is calling a great vendor like Wink Jones or GoodOldGold and get them to do the legwork for you. Tell them your parameters and timeframe, and they'll find what you need. I suggest these vendors because I've worked with them and they are truly top notch, straight shooter types.

I like my choices on paper, the problem with purchasing from Blue Nile is that you don't get the same amount of info as you do from some of the other PS vendors, so you run the risk of sinking extra time into returning the stone if it's not all you'd hoped for. And you might also have to request a Sarin from them to get even the most basic info you'd need.
 
Has anyone used ERD before? They haven't been mentioned before.
 
My fiance bought a princess cut from ERD & I purchased a RB. Mark's v knowledgable & a pleasure to work with, IMHO. He also makes terrific custom bands
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I'll post two more from ERD under your budget, tho if you really do want a stone today & you have a list from Blueman, that may be the way to go
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.90 H VS2 $4204

.91 H VS2 $4250
 
Sorry, Blueman, I didn't mean to make you all defensive.

Just thought it was worth setting the record straight about Blue Nile. Just because geoffkin doesn't have much time doesn't mean he should be misinformed.

Also, I figured that procuring the Sarin info for the BN stone would potentially give him MORE options, as he seems to be running out. And, Blue Nile does ship out very quickly, which is an advantage in this situation. It may also be worth the extra hundred or so dollars to purchase there, if that turns out to be the perfect stone (or the only one that hasn't already been sold!).

I'm sorry you didn't find the HCA sooner. It's actually mentioned here in the tutorial
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Thank you ALL for the help! I'm going to have BN pull that diamond and give me a sarin report on it. I like the fact that they have a 30 day return policy and can ship it to me QUICK. I don't have to order until Monday and will still get it next week. Did anyone look at the 'cloud' that diamond has? It just looks big to me...but VS2 should be OK?
 
Hey there-

clouds can look horrible in the diagrams, but I actually kinda prefer them as inclusions. They are usually much less visible than crystals. And with a VS2, I bet you have nothing to worry about!
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Good luck!
 
I'm having BN send me the sarin report now, I'll post it up as soon as they send it.
She already listed it as NOT AVAILABLE, so it can't be snatched out from under me like the others.
It seems kinda too cheap for coming from BN. With the $100 PS discount it will be $4,191 for a 1.04 Ideal-cut, I-color, and VS2-clarity by GIA.

My possible diamond

They have another that is just a little more $. Is STRONG BLUE FL a gamble on how it will look?

STRONG BLUE
 
Please know that the 1.04 diamond may bear ideal cut proportions (which you won't know until you get the Sarin), but it is most certainly not "ideal". Ideals must have ex/ex if GIA or ID/ID if AGS. This diamond has ex/vg, which disqualifies it from making the AGS0 grade. That doesn't mean it won't be a really nice diamond....just that it's not *technically* ideal.
 
Strong blue fluor could be a great thing for an I color, unless it looks cloudy (this is very rare, but can happen with strong fluor).

The proportions on that stone are OK... It falls outside of AGS ideal proportions, but still scores a 1.7 on the HCA. Still, you might be able to do slightly better. The only reason I say that is that it rates Very Good on white light, scintillation and spread, with an Excellent for color light return. If I were to split hairs, I personally prefer a stone scoring Excellent on white light AND color light. But that's pretty picky of me...
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In case you were wondering, I got the necessary info from the Sarin sticker that happens to be on that GIA cert. Man, I wish all the certs had those!!!
 
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On 9/23/2004 3:23:50 PM quaeritur wrote:

In case you were wondering, I got the necessary info from the Sarin sticker that happens to be on that GIA cert. Man, I wish all the certs had those!!!----------------
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Good work, Q!
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Geo, I also notice that the girdle on that one is VERY thin, some of it at .03. (This can make the diamond vulnerable to chipping.) I believe the cut-off for minimum recommended "thin-ness" has been stated before around here as .07. Also, the girdle variates an awful lot in thickness. Personally, coupled w/ what was said above - I, too, would pass on #2. Just my humble 2 cents!

Lynn
 
Lynn - by Diamond #2 are you refering to the blue tinted diamond at BN? I'm not getting that one, I think it's already SOLD.
I'm waiting on the Sarin report on BN #1 in my above post. That one's girdle is OK, no?

I just got this Sarin report on one from Mark at ERD, it's lot #2749300 any thoughts?
He also had this to say about it...
I spoke to the owner and there is a small crystal in the table that creates the SI1. The diamond is rated as eye clean with a closer evaluation of being a higher SI1.

The results of the sarin report are as follows:

60.7 Depth

56 Table

33.7 Crown

41.3 Pavillion angle

43.6 Pavillion Depth

0.6 Culet

HCA 3.2 rating. Which is rated very good.
 
It really depends on what you want to see from your diamond.

The diamond you listed from ERD looks like it might score well on the HCA, but I personally prefer a diamond with a more balance crown/pavilion relationship.

I tend to find the crowns that lean toward the shallower side don't do much for the fire of a diamond, and to me, that's the most desirable quality.

However, you really need to see for yourself.

P.S. I will say that the ERD diamond falls just outside AGS0 parameters (ideal) as well....the pavilion is a touch too deep.
 
I got the sarin for my possible BN stone, it's a .jpg that's really hard to read...

GIA - EXCELLENT - 1.040 C
DIAM - 6.50mm (6.49-6.52) [0.5%]
DEPTH - 3.96mm 60.9%
CROWN - 34.5 14.8%
Pavilion - 40.4 42.1%
TABLE - 3.82mm 58.7%
CUTLET - 0.5% V.Small
Girdle - 1.7% (1.3-2.0)

Link to stone at BN

Can anyone see a reason why this one won't be great?
 
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On 9/23/2004 9:51:27 PM geoffkin wrote:

I got the sarin for my possible BN stone, it's a .jpg that's really hard to read...

GIA - EXCELLENT - 1.040 C
DIAM - 6.50mm (6.49-6.52) [0.5%]
DEPTH - 3.96mm 60.9%
CROWN - 34.5 14.8%
Pavilion - 40.4 42.1%
TABLE - 3.82mm 58.7%
CUTLET - 0.5% V.Small
Girdle - 1.7% (1.3-2.0)

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This looks much better if you simply look at the HCA. There are lots of diamonds out there, no real reason to wander too far outside the 0-2 range on the HCA. I was close to buying a rock, when Cut Nut said the crown seemed a wee bit steep. It was a 'very good' on hca at 3.1 and why bother, unless it's a super deal i guess.

I think this looks like a great diamond. The Brilliance Scope report or Ideal Scope Image is nice if you can get it. The HCA is a great tool. The HCA with Ideal Scope is even better!

Good Luck.
 
I'm lovin' it! A score of 1 on the HCA, Ex/Ex/Ex/VG, I think it'll be a winner!
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Phew! I'm relieved it came out with nice #s after all that. Any chance you could upload the JPG of the Sarin? Just so you know, the table is slightly outside of the AGS ideal proportion range, but with this kind of HCA score, I doubt it will detract from the stone. It also scores a 1B cut grade from AGA, which is great. I hope it lives up to expectations, if you decide to purchase it!

Yeah, I think this one looks great. And even better that it's not a branded or signature collection stone, so you save extra $$!!!
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Let us know what you decide, and good luck with the proposal plans!
 
I uploaded the jpg of the sarin report here, did i read it right??

my sarin report

I'm buying this diamond today, as soon as I get a few replies that this sarin report is GOOD!

Seems like a good deal at $4,191 delivered and tax free, with the 30 day money back guarantee from BN.
 
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On 9/24/2004 1:34:28 PM geoffkin wrote: ...I'm buying this diamond today, as soon as I get a few replies that this sarin report is GOOD!

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Geoff,

I'm no expert, but I'm with Q... seems like a winner to me. (And I really LIKE the girdle!
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The final test will be your own two eyes, once you receive the stone. Take the time to look at it in all kinds of lighting conditions, but remember, even the "best" stones will not look GREAT in EVERY lighting condition! Sometimes I think we can come to expect a little too much!
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And then let us know what you think! And THEN... the required PHOTOS!
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Lynn

PS Good job!
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I'm still lovin' it!!!
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Also, if the table is 57% as per the GIA report, it does put you in AGS ideal proportion range
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. The only thing keeping out of AGS0 is the very good polish, which is totally indistinguishable anyway.

I think this is likely to be a beautiful stone, and the price is great too!
 
I haven't heard back from BN yet, to find out if I read the Sarin right.
From your feedback so far, sounds like I should buy it and be done!
We are staying at a bed and breakfast in between Carmel and Monterey on Oct 5-7. Pebble Beach to be exact, I should find a suitable place to propose there!
 
Call em. AND buy it. Buy it!!!!
 
It looks like it could be a very nice stone. I would be a little concerned with the variance in the sarin with the GIA cert. I recently returned a stone with excellent numbers that had a wacky sarin. Garry helped me with diamcalc and showed it didn't make sense.




I posted about it here:




https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/killer-stone-by-the-numbers-but.19285/




Good luck with your purchase and proposal!
 
Did you not check good old gold? Jonathon could have really helped you out something fierce in a hurry.
 
Haven't heard back from Kathy at BN yet. Maybe she has the day off like me! I'll wait and order on monday anyway, she said if I order by 3 pm our time on monday, it will be delivered to me on friday.
 
I never heard back from BN on Friday, so I decided to wait until today.

WF has a couple to consider: Any thoughts if one of these would be a better diamond than the one at BN?

1.06 at WF

.91

My gut is saying the BN is still my best choice...
 
That WF 1.06 stone will look the largest of the ones you are considering, and the IS image is beautiful.

I've seen the .91 in person, and it's stunning (I can send you pics if you want) - but it definitely faces up smaller than a 1 ct. It even faces up slightly small for a .91, because of the girdle. But it is definitely a performer. If you don't mind the fluorescence (I love it, personally) AND you don't mind it being a little smaller looking, then this is a beautiful stone at a very nice price. The color is to die for.

I still think the BN stone is probably awesome too, what were you waiting to hear back from them about? My stone's Sarin from my appraiser had some variation from the GIA cert too - but it's a knockout. I'd trust the GIA report's #s, I think they have the more accurate Sarin machines.

In all honesty, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these
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Thanks for your input! Size does matter, since I want a 1 carat, the .91 is out. The other 2 are a tough call! VS2, I vs. SI2, G and about the same size and both ideal cut. For sure, I don't want any visible inclusions at all. So I guess I have to go for the VS2 and hope the color is OK...
 
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