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1.911 AVC vs 2.14 AVC

Niel|1367601082|3439673 said:
Oh great!

But what about the halo? Is she dead set on that or would you be able to forgo a halo and upgrade that down the line?
Yup, I think Diamond Seeker advice was spot on . I'll go with a simple rose gold solitaire setting and let my gf pick a halo when the time comes.
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OK. And last question, does she have a dark or light skin tone?
 
gregchang35|1367553208|3439365 said:
I prefer the O.

Originally i liked the cushion shape of the M but then reviewed it a second time the colour of the O got to me. Yes, it may be a bit squarer for a cushion, but the (warmer- pastelly- vanilla-y) colour and the brightness of the O is just deeeeeeeeevvvvviiiiinnnnnnneeeeeeeee!~!!!!!

Simple solitaire setting (not haloed), maybe single or double pronged. I think RG to compliment the colour of the AVC....it could easily work with YG. BUt it will depend on her skin colouring as well. I think ksmom's ring is just beeeaaautiffull... colours works so well there....

ETA changed as i misread that you were buying for your GF and had stated your skin colour, so it is based on her skin colour and what other jewellery that she currently wears. Also, you might want to get her opinion on it as well. does she like cushions, antique cuts. just be absolutely sure.

If you wanted a whiter stone, then the M is the way to go.
Hi Greg,
we went to see the stone together, I actually took her to see the modified cushion cut first and then took her to EDR and GOG. She fell in love with the stones at GOG and didn't mind the M or O color. EDR also had very nice A Cut Beyond cushion but didn't have anything lower than a J which limit us to a 1.5-1.7 carat size. Do you or fellow PS know of a custom made solitaire rose gold setting that will complement this stone?
 
Niel|1367604468|3439721 said:
OK. And last question, does she have a dark or light skin tone?
Hi Niel,
Light skin :) and small finger ( 3.75 ). Please educate me about the skin stone and how it complement the stone's color.
 
Notice how well ks mom's lower colored stone looks? I think its just a perception thing. Cream again white looks creamier than cream against a darker tone, you know?

I still for that reason wanna say the m, but if she has seen both and love them I do like the faceting of the o better.
 
Niel|1367605173|3439731 said:
Notice how well ks mom's lower colored stone looks? I think its just a perception thing. Cream again white looks creamier than cream against a darker tone, you know?

I still for that reason wanna say the m, but if she has seen both and love them I do like the faceting of the o better.
Niel,
I could be wrong ( if my memory does fail me) but somehow the O did not have a light performance ( normal light, spot light , scintilation) as impressive as the M. You will see what I meant when I post the video link that GOG is working on for me.
 
Serifblack|1367604590|3439722 said:
gregchang35|1367553208|3439365 said:
I prefer the O.

Originally i liked the cushion shape m.
Hi Greg,
we went to see the stone together, I actually took her to see the modified cushion cut first and then took her to EDR and GOG. She fell in love with the stones at GOG and didn't mind the M or O color. EDR also had very nice A Cut Beyond cushion but didn't have anything lower than a J which limit us to a 1.5-1.7 carat size. Do you or fellow PS know of a custom made solitaire rose gold setting that will complement this stone?

Hi, can't resist chiming in.....
GOG did a custom Vatche setting for my AVC is RG!
I love it...it's a P, by the way. I would check with them on settings. Here's a quick i-phone shot of mine. (I think the warmer AVCs look wonderful in RG, but it's personal preference. )

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Can't wait to see the video ;))

I'm glad you decided on a simple setting for now too. Rose gold is perfect!
 
I really love the O for a few reasons.

Love the more rustic faceting. And I am a fan of a larger culet. I like the elongated shape, I think it looks more authentically old cut to me. The M looks like a modern diamond, the patterning. I also love its high crown.

And once a stone is M and below, its all "tinted" so for me color is not a major consideration. For me its about how pleasing the faceting is to you eyes. These cuts are very personal, for the enjoyment of the wearer. And I think I would enjoy gazing at the O more!
 
Serifblack|1367605664|3439736 said:
I could be wrong ( if my memory does fail me) but somehow the O did not have a light performance ( normal light, spot light , scintilation) as impressive as the M. You will see what I meant when I post the video link that GOG is working on for me.

Don't mistake different optic styles for differences in light performance quality. The O has larger facets and likely slower scintillation. Its less eye catching. The M seems to have a faster scintillation so its more eye catching. You may like that, but its not a distinction in quality, just style and type of faceting. The O is more classic to the style of true old miners.
 
Dreamer_D|1367617330|3439850 said:
I really love the O for a few reasons.

Love the more rustic faceting. And I am a fan of a larger culet. I like the elongated shape, I think it looks more authentically old cut to me. The M looks like a modern diamond, the patterning. I also love its high crown.

And once a stone is M and below, its all "tinted" so for me color is not a major consideration. For me its about how pleasing the faceting is to you eyes. These cuts are very personal, for the enjoyment of the wearer. And I think I would enjoy gazing at the O more!

Dreamer, I am a little confused here because the M is the one with the larger culet and elongated shape.

In the first video, the O is on the left and the M is on the right, which I think is the opposite of how the video is titled.
 
Okay, I will have to say that this comparison is exactly like the comparison I did except that my squarish stone was a little smaller than the O. I will say that I absolutely love everything about the M stone. I think it has a perfect shape and I love it's large culet. This stone would be mine other than I wanted a slightly larger one. So truly, after seeing them both, I might lean toward the gorgeous M. You cannot go wrong, but the M stone is just about perfection to me for a stone of that size.
 
Serifblack|1367604059|3439715 said:
Niel|1367601082|3439673 said:
Oh great!

But what about the halo? Is she dead set on that or would you be able to forgo a halo and upgrade that down the line?
Yup, I think Diamond Seeker advice was spot on . I'll go with a simple rose gold solitaire setting and let my gf pick a halo when the time comes.
I

You are a wise man! I think Harpertoo has a lovely setting from Vatche, but that would be a long term setting. I am sure that Steven Kirsch could make you one like ksmom's setting and it would be gorgeous! But if you think she really wants a halo, then I might go with Beverley K for an antique style halo, and GOG carries BK.

I seriously do not think you can go wrong with either diamond. I have mixed feelings but I know I love the M since I have seen it!

(I do think Dreamer preferred the M since the first video had the stones in the wrong order from the title.)
 
I can see no diff. in the color, so does she prefer rectangle or square? I luv the square O, but which shape does she love?
 
diamondseeker2006|1367628720|3439960 said:
Serifblack|1367604059|3439715 said:
Niel|1367601082|3439673 said:
Oh great!

But what about the halo? Is she dead set on that or would you be able to forgo a halo and upgrade that down the line?
Yup, I think Diamond Seeker advice was spot on . I'll go with a simple rose gold solitaire setting and let my gf pick a halo when the time comes.
I

You are a wise man! I think Harpertoo has a lovely setting from Vatche, but that would be a long term setting. I am sure that Steven Kirsch could make you one like ksmom's setting and it would be gorgeous! But if you think she really wants a halo, then I might go with Beverley K for an antique style halo, and GOG carries BK.

I seriously do not think you can go wrong with either diamond. I have mixed feelings but I know I love the M since I have seen it!

(I do think Dreamer preferred the M since the first video had the stones in the wrong order from the title.)
Diamondseeker, frankly my gf share the same feeling toward the M. She actually wanted an elongated shape, but being the kind of bf I am I wanted to get her a 2.11 bc it is over 2 carat lol
Thanks for the settings recommendation, will definitely check them out over the weekend.
 
ariel144|1367628831|3439961 said:
I can see no diff. in the color, so does she prefer rectangle or square? I luv the square O, but which shape does she love?
Ariel,
My gf love the elongated shape but I'm too stupid to let go of the O
 
i can see the color difference between the two. better clarity, more money for the perfect solitaire setting, higher color AND thats the shape she likes best, I feel like the M is the one
 
Serifblack said:
She actually wanted an elongated shape

IMO you have your answer there! :wink2:
 
diamondseeker2006|1367627775|3439944 said:
Dreamer_D|1367617330|3439850 said:
I really love the O for a few reasons.

Love the more rustic faceting. And I am a fan of a larger culet. I like the elongated shape, I think it looks more authentically old cut to me. The M looks like a modern diamond, the patterning. I also love its high crown.

And once a stone is M and below, its all "tinted" so for me color is not a major consideration. For me its about how pleasing the faceting is to you eyes. These cuts are very personal, for the enjoyment of the wearer. And I think I would enjoy gazing at the O more!

Dreamer, I am a little confused here because the M is the one with the larger culet and elongated shape.

In the first video, the O is on the left and the M is on the right, which I think is the opposite of how the video is titled.

Oops! Then I like the M :devil: Sorry for the confuzzlement!
 
The O appear whiter face up than the M , can everyone see that or my eyes are failing me :confused:
 
I still prefer the O. The culet in the M is a bit large for my liking.

However, listen to your GF. She is the one wearing it. If she prefers the elongated shape, pick that one. :appl:


however, if you were wearing the diamond, then i think you would have chosen the O for the size, colour and shape. :)
the whiter colour that you see ( i see it too) is probably the cut. the ASET image shows that it is a much brighter stone than the M.
 
The O is not going to face up whiter than an M, it's just not. So you need to take that out of consideration. I think if she liked the shape of the M, you should go with that and get her a really nice halo setting like Beverley K. The culet on the M is what makes the stone special to me, because in real life, you can't even see the small culets on many of the AV stones. I hate to see that stone sold because I think it is the most perfect elongated one I have seen. haha! However, I have my eye on another one that I hope will not be sold before I can take a look at it (I am in the process of buying an AVR at the moment!).

Since I think GOG price matches, you can mention that Pearlman's gives a 20% discount to PS members on Beverley K, so hopefully you can get a discount on your setting. We'd be glad to help you choose a setting for either stone.
 
I've had the O in my possession and can tell you that metal color made quite a difference to the end look. White metal left it slightly lemony in daylight while red gold rendered it deep vanilla. So just to be contrary I'd recommend white gold (the whitest white metal) and prongs with no side-stones. Overall though, I'd go for the M -- if color concerns you there's no way to beat it with a larger O. Plus your side-stone option would be relatively open.
 
I like the M- something about the cut is beautiful.
More "clear" is all I can say- It's facets look more clean.
But listen to what she likes...Whichever it is-- I am sure she will love it!
 
did you go with the m? i see the O is available.

If so i say :appl: get the lucky lady exactly what she wants. Plus, now you can get an absolutely stunning rose gold setting. Hand forged maybe?
 
Niel|1367792974|3440905 said:
did you go with the m? i see the O is available.

If so i say :appl: get the lucky lady exactly what she wants. Plus, now you can get an absolutely stunning rose gold setting. Hand forged maybe?
Thanks everyone.I had my marathon over the weekend so I could not reply to most of your posts. I truly appreciate your input about the two stones. I'm leaning toward the M now as many have said it is what the gf would be happy with. So that final step is choosing a rose gold solitaire setting to complement the stone's color and shape. I'm going to do some homework on settings and will let everyone know what my E ring will look like in the end.
 
I still prefer the square O but if she has seen the video and prefers the rectangular M, then by all means get the M! She's the one wearing the ring and looking at the diamond all the time so her preference is the only one that matters.
 
Serifblack|1367532004|3439018 said:
First all, thank you in advance for your help on this. I'm looking to purchase a cushion brilliant for my gf and I want to pick your brains here. Which one of these two would you pick ?
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7801/
or
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9210/

Thanks again for your input. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on these two cushions.

Just out of curiosity, and not to threadjack, but are AVCs considered a brilliant cut?
 
Harpertoo|1367609834|3439771 said:
Serifblack|1367604590|3439722 said:
gregchang35|1367553208|3439365 said:
I prefer the O.

Originally i liked the cushion shape m.
Hi Greg,
we went to see the stone together, I actually took her to see the modified cushion cut first and then took her to EDR and GOG. She fell in love with the stones at GOG and didn't mind the M or O color. EDR also had very nice A Cut Beyond cushion but didn't have anything lower than a J which limit us to a 1.5-1.7 carat size. Do you or fellow PS know of a custom made solitaire rose gold setting that will complement this stone?

Hi, can't resist chiming in.....
GOG did a custom Vatche setting for my AVC is RG!
I love it...it's a P, by the way. I would check with them on settings. Here's a quick i-phone shot of mine. (I think the warmer AVCs look wonderful in RG, but it's personal preference. )

Beautiful setting and stone Harpertoo! Thank you for sharing the photo. I will definitely keep that setting in mine. What were other settings you were considering before pulling the trigger on that one
 
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