1.65 I-1

[decolady]

Weight = 1.65 carats

Measurements = 7.28 - 7.34 x 4.79mm

Make = Medium
Colour = Q
Clarity = I1
Notes= Very thick bruted girdle, strong blue fluorescence


Pavilion 44%, Table 58% Crown angle 33-36 degrees

From a private seller, not a dealer. I prefer lower colors. Under 3,000. Good deal?

 

[belle]

you are losing significant size due to the cut. that stone has the measurements of a 1.3ct. diamond. keep that in mind when assessing the price. who graded it?

 

[decolady]

looks like a independent apprasial

so it faces like a 1.30?

 

[ladykemma]

what does it look like in the sunlight?

 

[decolady]

pretty nice, I had pictures in the sun but lost them. Its also an older cut so it flashes more in lower lighting.

 

[blueroses]

I actually kind of enjoy the warm Q color.

BUT......is it eye clean? Does it make your heart go pitty-pat? AND.....how is the price when compared to comparable stones of around a 1.3ct weight?

 

[decolady]

according to the seller it is eye clean, and I''ve maginified the pictures so many times. I wish I could see it in person but the pictures make my heart beat faster

 

[JulieN]

Is that a modern round?

 

[ladykemma]

ohhh, it''s an older cut! like a mine or european? then i say go for it!
i love cape colored stones!

 

[blueroses]

Looked like some sort of older chunkier cut--transition? OMC? OEC? Hard to tell in that setting too.

 

[ladykemma]

a southwest airlines ticket is 230 each way. worth a plane ticket to see it?

 

[belle]

Date: 6/8/2006 10:10:08 PM
Author: decolady
looks like a independent apprasial

so it faces like a 1.30?

around there, yes. it is nowhere near the size (dimension wise) of a well cut 1.6ct. stone. it is still a nice size but not 1.6.

 

[ladykemma]

Date: 6/8/2006 10:30:02 PM
Author: belle

Date: 6/8/2006 10:10:08 PM
Author: decolady
looks like a independent apprasial

so it faces like a 1.30?

around there, yes. it is nowhere near the size (dimension wise) of a well cut 1.6ct. stone. it is still a nice size but not 1.6.

the old cuts are deep with a visible culet and a very high crown.

 

[blueroses]

Trying to find pricing for semi-comparable stones. Here''s what I have so far (off of faycullen -- hard to find lower color/clarity stones on PS!!!)


Diamond Details: European
1.28 -Carat European Diamond

This K color, I1 clarity diamond comes accompanied by a diamond grading report from EGL.

Stone Specs Cut: European
Color: K
Clarity: I1
Certificate: EGL
Certificate Number: 21463506
Dimensions: 6.30x6.27x4.62
Girdle:
Culet:
Polish:
Symmetry:
93585

Price: $2,767



Diamond Details: European
1.40 -Carat European Diamond

This O color, SI2 clarity diamond comes accompanied by a diamond grading report from EGL.

Stone Specs Cut: European
Color: O
Clarity: SI2
Certificate: EGL
Certificate Number: 26254108
Dimensions: 6.81x6.79x4.78
Girdle: VT-VTK
Culet: M
Polish: G
Symmetry: G
95504

Price: $3,538



Diamond Details: European
1.61 -Carat European Diamond

This N color, SI2 clarity diamond comes accompanied by a diamond grading report from EGL.

Stone Specs Cut: European
Color: N
Clarity: SI2
Certificate: EGL
Certificate Number: 76666506
Dimensions: 7.50x7.47x4.36
Girdle: T-STK
Culet: M
Polish: FG
Symmetry: G
97533

Price: $3,212


1.70 -Carat Old Mine Diamond

This P color, SI1 clarity diamond comes accompanied by a diamond grading report from EGL.

Stone Specs Cut: Old Mine
Color: P
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: EGL
Certificate Number: 76517911
Dimensions: 7.28x6.59x5.05
Girdle: VT-T
Culet: M
Polish: G
Symmetry: G
97284

Price: $3,392




Diamond Details: Old Mine
1.45 -Carat Old Mine Diamond

This N color, SI1 clarity diamond comes accompanied by a diamond grading report from EGL.

Stone Specs Cut: Old Mine
Color: N
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: EGL
Certificate Number: 13236918
Dimensions: 7.46x7.08x4.07
Girdle:
Culet:
Polish:
Symmetry:
90279

Price: $2,893

 

[blueroses]

We have to keep in mind the older cut--no way would it face up like a well cut RB, but so many older cuts can be deep.......

 

[decolady]

its transitional cut, my only issue is I need it to fit into a setting I have that would require a larger stone in the 1.65-2.00 range so i dont squeese the prongs

 

[belle]

Date: 6/8/2006 10:33:36 PM
Author: ladykemma

Date: 6/8/2006 10:30:02 PM
Author: belle

Date: 6/8/2006 10:10:08 PM
Author: decolady
looks like a independent apprasial

so it faces like a 1.30?

around there, yes. it is nowhere near the size (dimension wise) of a well cut 1.6ct. stone. it is still a nice size but not 1.6.

the old cuts are deep with a visible culet and a very high crown.

indeed they are but that doesn''t change the fact that it faces up like a 1.3(ish) diamond. you have to take that into account when pricing the stone.

i think it''s charming! hopefuly we can help decolady get close to a fair price for it.

 

[ladykemma]

Date: 6/8/2006 10:41:18 PM
Author: belle

Date: 6/8/2006 10:33:36 PM
Author: ladykemma

Date: 6/8/2006 10:30:02 PM
Author: belle

Date: 6/8/2006 10:10:08 PM
Author: decolady
looks like a independent apprasial

so it faces like a 1.30?

around there, yes. it is nowhere near the size (dimension wise) of a well cut 1.6ct. stone. it is still a nice size but not 1.6.

the old cuts are deep with a visible culet and a very high crown.

indeed they are but that doesn''t change the fact that it faces up like a 1.3(ish) diamond. you have to take that into account when pricing the stone.

i think it''s charming! hopefuly we can help decolady get close to a fair price for it.

it seems to be right in line with the measurements of the stones listed by blue. i think it is worth a 2500 dollar gamble.

will it be too small for the setting?

 

[blueroses]

The setting sounds like it is going to be too large.....HMMMMMM.

What''s the setting like?

 

[decolady]

its an antique setting with double prongs. I might just go for it because I love the color, cut and even the clarity because its not a blazing I-1

I also think the pictures make it look like a 1.50, I have a 1.25 and it looks much bigger than mine.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 6/8/2006 10:40:10 PM
Author: decolady
its transitional cut, my only issue is I need it to fit into a setting I have that would require a larger stone in the 1.65-2.00 range so i dont squeese the prongs

I would be concerned that the setting may be too large. I had an OEC that was 1.20 with a 6.5mm spread so it faced up like a modern round 1 ct. If your setting needs a modern 1.65-2.0 stone the old cut you''re looking at will probably be to small. I thinks it''s a lovely stone though.

 

[belle]

is there any kind of return period for it? it only seems fair that you have your own independant appraisal to assure that it is what they say it is.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I am looking in the size range you''re talking about (new stones, though), and I am finding 1.3 ct. to run around the 7.1mm range, 1.4 ct. around 7.2-7.3mm (the stone you''re looking at), and 1.6 ct. will be around 7.6 mm. So as others have suggested, it may not work for the setting you want it for.

 

[decolady]

the setting has a garnet in it, and the garnet measures around 7.7mm. its an older stone too. Thats the other thing, the seller is private so she dosent want a return.