Thoughts on this diamond?

[krusty900]

Starting to narrow things down a bit.
Anyone have any thoughts on this one?
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10364
Ideally would like to get a bit bigger and perhaps maybe a h colour, but not many around at moment and the price starts to jump a fair bit also.

 

[crbl999]

Excellent choice especially if that is the top of your budget. Not sure what your budget is but this one is slightly more and gets you over the 1 ct mark with H color

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4006539.htm

 

[krusty900]

Thanks for the reply. Was looking at that h on whitflash also,if I were to stretch the budget.
Any thoughts on the s1 status and inclusions on that one?

 

[Katya DXB]

Thanks for the reply. Was looking at that h on whitflash also,if I were to stretch the budget.
Any thoughts on the s1 status and inclusions on that one?

The crystals look transparent on the video and the description says ‘eye clean’. Should be very fine.

 

[doberman]

Either of these diamonds will be great, and the inclusions won't be a problem from a viewing perspective. It all boils down to how you feel about colorless vs near colorless diamonds and size. Which is more important to you?

 

[krusty900]

Thanks for the replies. I think a bigger one is probably the go, my partner would have had no clue if I hadn’t talked to her and I would have a different perspective on things if I hadn’t found pricescope. Argh. Turning into a nightmare trying to make a decision

 

[krusty900]

I think I’m going to bite the bullet and go for this
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10364
With this setting
https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/agnnCnxyDVHx0NY5uJ9ldu?domain=handshake2.jivesystems.com
Little bit nervous

Any other thoughts from anyone..?

 

[lovedogs]

I think I’m going to bite the bullet and go for this
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10364
With this setting
https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/agnnCnxyDVHx0NY5uJ9ldu?domain=handshake2.jivesystems.com
Little bit nervous

Any other thoughts from anyone..?

Try not to stress--that CBI is going to be freaking gorgeous, especially in that awesome setting. It's easy to start over thinking everything once you find PS--trying to 100% optimize everything and find the best possible diamond in the whole universe. That will just end up driving you crazy. You've made a great choice, and your intended will be floored and thrilled!

 

[icy_jade]

Don’t worry. HPD has great return and trade in policy if the stone is really not right. But I think it will be gorgeous and she will LOVE it. For setting I really like the petal solitaire.

 

[krusty900]

Thanks for the reply. Puts my mind at ease a bit. I’m sure she would like something bigger, but nice and bright and white on her size 4.5 finger should do the trick.

 

[Dancing Fire]

I think I’m going to bite the bullet and go for this
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10364
With this setting
https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/agnnCnxyDVHx0NY5uJ9ldu?domain=handshake2.jivesystems.com
Little bit nervous

Any other thoughts from anyone..?

Beautiful classic ring!. I love a plain and simple setting! Never go out of style in a million yr.

 

[krusty900]

Definetly been the favourite we have come across. Would have been nice if the Aussie dollar hadn’t tanked as will be going over budget, oh well. Should be beautiful.

 

[krusty900]

@sledge just checking your opinion on this one..https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10364
Pulling the trigger on the morning

 

[sledge]

Love it!

I really like the passion and precision that @Wink with HPD and @John Pollard with CBI mix together to deliver a superior stone, setting and customer experience.

My only question is why haven't you already pulled the trigger?

Cant wait to see the pics!

 

[krusty900]

So I had to pull the pin on the above. The budget blew out and ended up stressing me out.
Can anyone give me their thoughts on this stone?can see inclusions in video, but if confirmed eye clean all good?
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3982403.htm

 

[sledge]

Several weeks ago when I was considering replacing my fiancee's H with a higher color D/E I stumbled on this stone. It's just a smidge smaller than I need (her setting requires a certain mm to make it work) but this one was very close.

Love the angles and color. I don't think the clarity will be an issue but I always suggest calling WF and having them pull the stone and have their gemologist confirm.

The stone seems well priced for the high color.

 

[krusty900]

Thanks for the reply @sledge
I checked with WF One of the twinning wisps can be seen from up close with the naked eye. Not sure it would bother my partner, but think it would bother me

 

[sledge]

Thanks for the reply @sledge
I checked with WF One of the twinning wisps can be seen from up close with the naked eye. Not sure it would bother my partner, but think it would bother me

No problem. I'm fairly swamped with work right now, but will try to circle back here a little later and post some alternates.

Sorry the WF stone didn't work out. Before when I was looking, it was a short-lived idea for me as my fiancee decided she wants to live with the H stone I got her from BGD.

 

[krusty900]

Thanks @sledge I figured if it was completely eye clean up close it would have been sold by now.

 

[TreeScientist]

Well, you're in luck @krusty900, I think the perfect diamond for you just popped up (graded on Sept 10th). It's a .9 carat D/VS2 with darn near perfect proportions for $4975. I would contact FourMine to try and place it on hold and also request an IdealScope for it:
https://www.fourmine.com/shop/diamond/1418955

 

[krusty900]

Hi @TreeScientist Thankyou for that. I am in Australia and looking to stick with wf or cbi at this stage due to the upgrade policies and familiarity with them dealing with aussies and having settings that I liked. I can’t see that fourmine ship internationally?

 

[sledge]

I believe WF can get virtual inventory stones as well so you could deal with someone you trust. However, I dont think their upgrade policies apply to the virtual inventory stones.

Have you tried contacting WF to see if they have any potential stones that fit your criteria in their production pipeline? If not, how much it would cost to have them do a custom ACA. With custom they guarantee minimums you establish but if it ends up better than you get for free.

 

[krusty900]

Thanks@sledge have contacted wf last week to see what is in the pipeline. Just waiting to hear back.

 

[TreeScientist]

Hi @TreeScientist Thankyou for that. I am in Australia and looking to stick with wf or cbi at this stage due to the upgrade policies and familiarity with them dealing with aussies and having settings that I liked. I can’t see that fourmine ship internationally?

Yes, Four Mine ships to Australia.

 

[krusty900]

Thanks @TreeScientist I’ll have a look at their settings and see if it is an option I think I will have to up the budget a bit again also.

 

[sledge]

Hey @krusty900, since you were originally thinking super ideal, here is a Brian Gavin Diamonds (BGD) Black series stone. It looks like it's so new they haven't gotten all the images posted yet, but looking at the proportions it's going to be drop dead gorgeous.

0.808ct E VS1 - $5,495 wire
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/.../0.808-e-vs1-round-diamond-bkags-104101862137

55 table, 61.7 depth, 34.5 crown, 40.7 pavilion & 77 LGF

Earlier I mentioned my fiancee and I had talked about replacing her H with a D/E stone. Well her original is a BGD Blue. This would make the most financial sense; however, her setting requires a very specific size -- about 0.20mm bigger than this stone, or I would have gobbled this up myself and upgraded her.

Absolutely love these proportions. Looking at many stones I've learned this is my personal sweet spot, so it has me all gaga over it.

Anyhow, BGD is pretty awesome too. If you didn't know Brian helped found and run WF, until he went out on his own. He too is located in Houston, and they also ship to Australia. Their upgrade program isn't quite as generous as HPD or WF. They do offer full credit on trade; however, in addition to spending $1+, you also have to upgrade 2 of the 3: carat, color or clarity.

FYI, BGD offers three main style of cuts/series:

• BGD Blue - Stones that have up to medium blue fluor. Cut on the same lines, etc as their Signature series but isn't monitored as closely. Many times they meet same criteria as Signature, but you need to verify through images.
• BGD Signature - Their "standard" H&A super ideal line. Comparable to WF ACA.
• BGD Black - Their proprietary "premium" H&A super ideal line. Cut and symmetry is to more exacting standards.

https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/news/black-brian-gavin-vs-brian-gavin-signature/

 

[sledge]

If the BGD Black is still a little uncomfortable on the budget, what about these?

0.85ct D VS1, $4,894 wire
https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/0.85-ct-D-VS1-Excellent-Cut-Round-Diamond/D41633448

This too has great proportions -- 56 table, 61.2 depth, 34.5 crown, 40.8 pavilion and 75 LGF.

At the very least, you should put this stone on hold while you decide. Then request an actual image, video and ASET (or idealscope image).


0.83ct E VS2, $3,582 wire
https://www.fourmine.com/shop/diamond/Y-1918

Kind of the same game here, good proportions but need to request images, video and ASET (or idealscope).

55 table, 34.5 crown, 40.6 pavilion and 80 LGF

Like the smaller table better. The 80 LGF I like less as it probably means more skinny arrows; however, it really depends on the imaging as GIA rounding really means this:

• 75 LGF reported = 73-77 LGF actual
• 80 LGF reported = 78-82 LGF actual

That said, the 80 LGF is NOT a deal breaker by any stretch. It's a preference is all. Speaking of preferences, I would prefer to see that 34.5 crown paired with a 40.7-40.8 pavilion but the 40.6 works very well too.

Below are some screen caps to show you how the pavilion can slightly change things when all other factors remain the same. These are based on the AGS proportion charts and the black box signifies exactly where the GIA reported values places a potential AGS cut grade. The blue box suggests a wider range that is more probable due to the way GIA rounds & averages their values.

34.5/40.6 - Lands in ideal, and very high probability it remains ideal.



34.5/40.7 - Lands in ideal, even more probable it remains ideal. While the first 0.85ct stone has a 56 table, the charts look almost identical and what I would expect to see with it.



34.5/40.8 - Lands in ideal, and even accounting for GIA funky rounding/averaging will appear to remain in ideal.

 

[TreeScientist]

If you're still interested in the Four Mine diamond, it just popped up on James Allen today. Obviously don't purchase from them, as they are overpriced. Just thought the video would give you a better idea of the diamond's appearance, since FourMine only had the photo. Looks great to me in the video.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...d-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-5753886

 

[sledge]

If you're still interested in the Four Mine diamond, it just popped up on James Allen today. Obviously don't purchase from them, as they are overpriced. Just thought the video would give you a better idea of the diamond's appearance, since FourMine only had the photo. Looks great to me in the video.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...d-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-5753886

Good share @TreeScientist.

I haven't squeezed JA, but that would be my game. Have them beat the low guy and get access to a bigger diamond selection, settings, etc for the future. Just a thought.

 

[krusty900]

Thanks @TreeScientist and @sledge you guys are fantastic. That’s a big difference in price!
I’m really torn at what to do at the moment. I’m actually starting to think that I don’t need to go down the super ideal route as my partner won’t care and that now maybe bigger will be better as long as it still looks good I just wish we had something good/Excellent to easily compare to the junk that is in the stores where I live.
Thanks@sledge for that detailed post, I have been looking at bg, but would like to get over 6mm and Adiamor don’t have a setting I like. Maybe I need to not stress so much about the setting. Argh. I have a bit more time now also, as her best friend got engaged(big surprise)yesterday,so pressure of me slightly now haha.