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I had written a much better post on this topic, but the internet gods, having a weird sense of humor, decided that it should vanish into the ether.. so I will recap with this somewhat abbreviated presentation of my side of the story.

Twenty-some odd days ago katiedid came into my store with a princess cut diamond in a stout platinum mounting and asked if I could pull her stone from the original piece and re-set it into a new mounting she had just bought. I looked at her new mounting and immediately told her that I felt the piece was somewhat thin and insubstantial, and that she would be better off leaving her stone in the original ring. She told me that the mounting''s thinness wouldn''t be a problem as she ''never does anything'' with her hands and that she expected the ring would be fine. I wasn''t exactly thrilled at her response, but what could I do but set her stone as requested?


As she said, I did chip a corner of her stone trying to set it into the new ring, I came out to the front of the store and told her that I''d chipped it and that we would replace the stone at no charge. Two days later I had several new stones for her to choose from, she selected one and we set it.. she appeared to leave the store contented.

Within a couple days she called back and asked if she could upgrade the diamond for one of better color. We agreed to do so. We pulled the stone we''d just replaced, an ''H'' colored diamond, and set a a new ''E'' color stone in it''s place, charging her only the difference in cost between the two. Again, I assumed she left the store happy.

What seems like several weeks went by and she comes back to the store with her ring complaining that the stone was now loose. When she took off the ring it was immediately obvious that the ring was out of round, the top of the shank under the head, was bent down and compressed. It was clear that the piece had sustained some ''wear''. Understand, wear in jewelry is to be expected, rings in particular take a lot of abuse in their day-to-day existence, it''s unavoidable. I tightened the stone for her, again telling her that the mounting was somewhat fragile and wouldn''t hold up over time and that the ''head'' was especially thin and vulnerable. Again, I was told that it would be fine. What could I say under the circumstances but ...OK? The following day she comes back to my store with her ring and accuses me of having chipped her stone a second time. Now, keep in mind that she had been wearing the piece for 10 days or 2 weeks at this point, that the head was so thin that it flexed in a moderate breeze and and that the mounting clearly showed obvious damage. I want to note that she complained in her last post that several of the side stones had already loosened in just a few weeks wear,(not a sign of quality manufacture,by the way). But, regardless of the wear issue she maintained that I must be responsible for the chip despite the fact that the mounting was already damaged after such a short while. Don''t you just love retail?

I always find it interesting that customers are never responsible for damaging their jewelry and that somehow the damage mysteriously happens without their having done anything. I have had customers come in with rings that look to have been gnawed on by badgers or run through a garbage disposal... and they still swear that they too "never do anything with their hands". Obviously, it can only be the jeweler''s fault. Remarkable, no?

In any event, we have given katiedid back her money.The fact that her mounting was so thin and poorly designed as to be an accident waiting to happen was evidently my responsibility too. Bottom line, I am left with nearly $4000 worth of princess cuts that I would never have bought,(I personally hate princess cuts)and the only lesson I can draw from this is that no good deed goes unpunished.

thanks for reading this..

gworks
 
Ok, now my turn... :-) First, here is the accurate timeline. I received my new SP setting on Friday, May 11th. On Sat, May 12th, I took it to Goldworks and that is the day my original stone was chipped. I left it there over the weekend and did NOT get to select the replacement stone--they said they would find me something comparable.

I was called on Monday afternoon, saying it was ready for me to pick up (ie the new stone I had never seen or picked out as they suggested in their posting had already been set). I picked it up that day and immediately noticed the color difference but took it home anyway. The very next day (Tues), I called and expressed my displeasure with the new stone''s yellow color. I told them I would be willing to spend another $500 to get a whiter stone. They brought in 2 or 3 more stones. One was $800 more and one was $500 more but was rectangular. I asked them to get another stone for me to consider. They said they would, and on Saturday, May 19th, my husband and I chose one of the stones they brought in and they pulled the yellowish stone out and put in the new one. I wrote them a check for $500. (I just looked at my checkbook to verify the date). Keep in mind, before this point, I had worn the new rings for maybe 4 days total. There is no way that in 4 days I bent the rings or did any damage to any part of it.

This past Saturday, May 26th, I noticed that the stone seemed to be loose. I called Goldworks on Monday (yesterday) and went in for them to tighten the setting. That was when they told me again how cheap the mounting was and that they''d be "surprised if I got a year or two of wear out of it". So this morning, I took the whole thing to an independent appraiser, who realized that this stone too had been chipped. He said there was no way I did it myself with wear because there were no marks on the head to indicate I had banged it on something to loosen or chip the stone. So I went back to Goldworks today (not several weeks later as they said in their posting). They refunded my money because I felt like it was in everyone''s best interest to part ways and move on.

I have no ill will towards Goldworks. They stepped up and did the right thing. But I did NOT damage my ring and try to blame it on them. Whatever damage was done, was done during mounting and remounting. Nobody else worked on these rings.

Anyway, enough back and forth. I am proceeding with finding something to replace my rings. I never would have asked for this to happen--all I wanted was my original engagement ring diamond set into a new platinum mounting.
 
Admirable self-restraint, Katie - and good luck with finding a wonderful new ring.
 
Gworks,

I understand your pain and I would like to compliment you on several pieces of this transaction. First in telling Katydid immediately about the first chip and for replacing it at once at your expense. Secondly for providing the refund even though you don’t seem to think the second chip was your fault, and lastly for coming onto the forum and telling your side of the story.

I presume that both the sales staff and setter are supposed to check every job for pre-existing damage before embarking on tightening or any other repair and would have stopped work immediately if it was chipped before arriving at the shop so I see 3 options available:

1) Your salesperson didn’t notice it when taking in the job and the setter didn’t notice it before starting the work (which would be 2 serious oversights).
2) The setter chipped it in the process of tightening it and he/she/you failed to notice it before returning it to the owner (2 different but equally serious problems) or
3) The customer chipped it between leaving your store and arriving at the appraiser the next day (nothing wrong on your part).

This last one, where she broke it herself on the way to the appraiser is certainly a possibility but the ‘gnawed on by badgers’ scenario seems a tad unlikely given the short timeline and the comments from the appraiser. The post that started this thread was written only a few hours after she picked it up and she apparently didn’t even know it was damaged when she scheduled the appointment with the appraiser so really the window for breakage quite small indeed. Her worry, perhaps justified and perhaps not, was about your comments that the mounting was insufficient. This changed only after the appraiser informed her of the damage. Perhaps it was all a big setup, but surely you agree that this seems unlikely.

I’m glad this worked out ok and I’m truly sorry to hear that you lost a sale here when you seem to be an up and up store. If my #1 & #2 choices above are reasonably likely, which only you will be able to answer, I recommend you look into your take-in and quality control systems in order to avoid this sort of thing in the future. This could be the silver lining here because there are MUCH more expensive ways to learn this particular lesson. Maybe it was just a bad day and if it’s #3, I pity your bad luck. Fortunately, not too many customers break stones within a few hours of pickup and then blame it on you, even in retail. In the end, you’ll be able to get both stones repaired and someone will come in who will love them. It’s hard on the cash flow but worse things could happen. When it’s over you’ll come out of this ok with just a few more grey hairs and perhaps with better take-in and quality control procedures.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver
 
Looks like USA Certed Diamonds has lots to choose from at good prices. They have several in the .78 - .90 ct weight that would probably work if I went with a GIA stone that was H or I, SI1. The only thing I worry about with any I stone is that if I get an SP diamond band of any kind, their stones are super white. I don''t want to be back in the same position of having a center stone that''s too yellow to match a band.

SP actually has a cathedral setting with a .52 round center stone (which is smaller than I''d want) that is listed on their web site. It''s F, VVS2, GIA cert., for $2750. If I dropped down to a G or H in color and VS2 or SI1 in clarity, I could probably bump up the size of the stone a good bit. Here is that ring: http://www.thefacetscollection.com/item.cfm?item_id=753
 
Dear GWorks,

I wanted to tell you that I am very impressed with the way you helped Katiedid with the first chipping and how honest you were about it. I live in the Triangle as well and after reading her account of things, I went to your store to browse. Everyone was very nice and you had some great pieces. I particularly liked your sapphire rings. I don''t need anything right now but I will definitely keep you in mind for future purchases and certainly for repair work. (In fact, when I asked about platinum polishing, I was so impressed at your reasonable prices, that I will definitely be back!) So, you said that "no good deed goes unpunished", but I wanted to let you know that you gained at least 1 new customer as a result of what happened.

Katiedid, I wish you luck choosing a replacement ring and I hope that you will have a happy ending to your story!
 
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