Your Vote: Which is better?

[blessedbling]

I'm deciding between two lab created diamonds for an engagement ring (hopefully by tomorrow morning). While these both have the same 4 Cs, I'd appreciate advice on other aspects such as pavilion, crown angle, depth etc. I've read some tips, but could use help comparing these. I was slightly concerned when I saw some aspects fell outside the ideal. Here are the IGS reports:

https://www.igi.org/API-IGI/viewpdf.php?r=LG510177479

https://www.igi.org/API-IGI/viewpdf.php?r=LG512214366

From a more experienced viewpoint, which is higher quality? Which would look more brilliant?

 

[0515vision]

Hello @blessedbling, is there a reason you have to have a decision by tomorrow morning? Both of those stones have a really steep crown angle over 35°. We usually like to see crown angles 34-35.

 

[Kim N]

I think you can do better than either of these diamonds. I've found a good alternative for you if you're interested.

 

[HGar]

I was just going to tag you @Kim N and @DejaWiz

 

[blessedbling]

Hello @blessedbling, is there a reason you have to have a decision by tomorrow morning? Both of those stones have a really steep crown angle over 35°. We usually like to see crown angles 34-35.

Oh ok, thanks! I have put one of the diamonds on reserve. How will it affect the look of it with the steep crown?

 

[blessedbling]

I think you can do better than either of these diamonds. I've found a good alternative for you if you're interested.

I'm curious...

 

[0515vision]

Definitely check out @Kim N's pick. She's a Diamond Magician!

I don't know exactly what a steep crown does, but you don't want suboptimal light return. The whole point of a diamond is its ability to refract light and sparkle. No need to buy a dull diamond in this day and age.

I found both of your stones' videos (but don't know how to post them here). Thing is, to my eye they both have a bit of pavilion twist. @Kim N has likely seen the videos, too, by now and would be able to comment more.

 

[Kim N]

Here are your diamonds' videos. Like 0515vision said, they both have a bit of an unevenly cut pavilion, which can result in leakage under the table. We usually recommend a crown angle of 34-35 and pavilion angle of 40.6-40.9.

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Loupe360

loupe360.com

 

[blessedbling]

Here are your diamonds' videos. Like 0515vision said, they both have a bit of an unevenly cut pavilion, which can result in leakage under the table. We usually recommend a crown angle of 34-35 and pavilion angle of 40.6-40.9.

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Very useful info, thanks! Is this going to be observable to naked eye? When I wear it?

 

[Kim N]

Very useful info, thanks! Is this going to be observable to naked eye? When I wear it?

It may be noticeable to the naked eye. There are so many stones out there, why settle?

What are the prices of the two stones?

 

[blessedbling]

It may be noticeable to the naked eye. There are so many stones out there, why settle?

What are the prices of the two stones?

They are each $1575 on one site, and $1325 on another

 

[DejaWiz]

Hello and welcome to PriceScope, blessedbling!
Agree with the others: you have a good budget for a better cut and proportioned diamond.
For under $1500, you're in 1.7-1.9 carat D VS1+ realm.
Example: this one is just under $1550

Loupe360

loupe360.com

GIA - Report Check

www.gia.edu

 

[DejaWiz]

This one is just over $1400:

Video:

Media Links

Verify Your Report | Verify Your Diamond Online | IGI

IGI's Verify Your Report service permits quick and convenient confirmation that your report matches what is recorded in the IGI database.

report.igi.org

 

[lovedogs]

There are much better options available

 

[blessedbling]

This one is just over $1400:

Video:

Media Links

Verify Your Report | Verify Your Diamond Online | IGI

IGI's Verify Your Report service permits quick and convenient confirmation that your report matches what is recorded in the IGI database.

report.igi.org

Wow, thanks for this great tip! I'm going to talk with the jeweler today hopefully.
Do you think a 1.79 diamond will look really large on size 3.75/4 finger?

 

[DejaWiz]

Wow, thanks for this great tip! I'm going to talk with the jeweler today hopefully.
Do you think a 1.79 diamond will look really large on size 3.75/4 finger?

Here's a decent picture showing how it'll look on that ring size.

 

[blessedbling]

Here's a decent picture showing how it'll look on that ring size.

Big but stunning! I bet I could get used to that. Thanks for your help!

 

[DejaWiz]

Big but stunning! I bet I could get used to that. Thanks for your help!

You're very welcome!

Here's the link to the diamond...that's the lowest price that I could find amongst the online sellers.

Inventory

Shop your perfect lab grown diamond from thousands of ethically sourced certified lab created diamonds inventory.

www.loosegrowndiamond.com

 

[blessedbling]

You're very welcome!

Here's the link to the diamond...that's the lowest price that I could find amongst the online sellers.

Inventory

Shop your perfect lab grown diamond from thousands of ethically sourced certified lab created diamonds inventory.

www.loosegrowndiamond.com

I found it on Dreamstone for a comparable price and ordered it, Yay!! This is the setting I chose:

SIX-PRONG TRELLIS ENGAGEMENT RING SETTING in 14K Yellow Gold

This classic diamond engagement ring setting has an elegant design extending upwards to six-prongs securing your choice of diamond.

dreamstone.com

Very excited for it...hope it ends up looking good on my little finger.
Many thanks again...You are a rock star and my diamond hero, DejaWiz!

 

[DejaWiz]

I found it on Dreamstone for a comparable price and ordered it, Yay!! This is the setting I chose:

SIX-PRONG TRELLIS ENGAGEMENT RING SETTING in 14K Yellow Gold

This classic diamond engagement ring setting has an elegant design extending upwards to six-prongs securing your choice of diamond.

dreamstone.com

Very excited for it...hope it ends up looking good on my little finger.
Many thanks again...You are a rock star and my diamond hero, DejaWiz!

You're very welcome - congratulations for your new diamond and great looking setting!

 

[blessedbling]

You're very welcome - congratulations for your new diamond and great looking setting!

Oooh, unfortunately the seller said the first diamond has a long delay due to shipping from India and slower processing times. He's offering another Hearts and Arrows one as alternative that he can get now. It's smaller 1.65 and color grade down, which I don't mind because smaller is better than bigger for my finger. But is this about as good? Is it worth it? Or should I ask for something of better value?

DreamStone Loose Diamonds | Ideal Cut Diamonds | Certified Diamonds | Diamond Engagement Rings - DreamStone

Shop diamond engagement rings, diamond stud earrings, diamond pendants, GIA diamonds online at dreamstone.com. DreamStone's comprehensive interactive education center will guide you through everything you need to know about diamonds.

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would love your advice, thanks!

 

[DejaWiz]

Oooh, unfortunately the seller said the first diamond has a long delay due to shipping from India and slower processing times. He's offering another Hearts and Arrows one as alternative that he can get now. It's smaller 1.65 and color grade down, which I don't mind because smaller is better than bigger for my finger. But is this about as good? Is it worth it? Or should I ask for something of better value?

DreamStone Loose Diamonds | Ideal Cut Diamonds | Certified Diamonds | Diamond Engagement Rings - DreamStone

Shop diamond engagement rings, diamond stud earrings, diamond pendants, GIA diamonds online at dreamstone.com. DreamStone's comprehensive interactive education center will guide you through everything you need to know about diamonds.

dreamstone.com

would love your advice, thanks!

Looks fine. I, personally, don't much care for a table bigger than 56% and crown height under 15%, but that's in my own head. Should be a decent pick!
All VS1, most VS2, and even many SI1 will be just as clean to the eyes as any VVS or FL/IF. VS1-VS2 would potentially save you a heap of money.

 

[DejaWiz]

GIA graded, nice tall 15.5% crown height, great cut precision, clean HPHT material, and you can price match to LooseGrownDiamond at $1312

1.71 Carat F VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 1479864512 Affinity Cut - D55544214

1.71 carat, Round, F Color, VVS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D55544214

www.adiamor.com

 

[Kim N]

Take a look at this one as well. Under $1300 for 1.70 D VVS2.

1.70 Carat D VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond IGI Certified 581303946 Affinity Cut - D54106750

1.70 carat, Round, D Color, VVS2 clarity, IGI Certified Diamond, IGI Certificate 581303946, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D54106750

www.adiamor.com

 

[Engrgrl1]

GIA graded, nice tall 15.5% crown height, great cut precision, clean HPHT material, and you can price match to LooseGrownDiamond at $1312

1.71 Carat F VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 1479864512 Affinity Cut - D55544214

1.71 carat, Round, F Color, VVS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D55544214

www.adiamor.com

Can I ask you where I would find that handy site to see diamond size versus finger size? I think that would help me try and dial in a size range for my upcoming project

 

[DejaWiz]

Can I ask you where I would find that handy site to see diamond size versus finger size? I think that would help me try and dial in a size range for my upcoming project

Sure thing!
www.diamdb.com

That merely gives a rough draft view on a single finger...I also recommend sites like MySparkly where you can filter by carat, shape, setting style, and ring size to hopefully find some good pictures of how a particular carat weight/diameter will look in proportion to the whole hand.

 

[Engrgrl1]

Sure thing!
www.diamdb.com

That merely gives a rough draft view in a single finger...I also recommend sites like MySparkly where you can filter by carat, shape, setting style, and ring size to hopefully find some good pictures of how a particular carat weight/diameter will look in proportion to the whole hand.

Thank you so much!!!! I am looking forward to the day when I finally know what direction I am going in and I can ask you and Kim and all the other wonderful experts here to help me find a diamond!

 

[blessedbling]

Take a look at this one as well. Under $1300 for 1.70 D VVS2.

1.70 Carat D VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond IGI Certified 581303946 Affinity Cut - D54106750

1.70 carat, Round, D Color, VVS2 clarity, IGI Certified Diamond, IGI Certificate 581303946, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D54106750

www.adiamor.com

Thanks, Kim N!! Just seeing this

 

[blessedbling]

GIA graded, nice tall 15.5% crown height, great cut precision, clean HPHT material, and you can price match to LooseGrownDiamond at $1312

1.71 Carat F VVS2 Round Brilliant Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 1479864512 Affinity Cut - D55544214

1.71 carat, Round, F Color, VVS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D55544214

www.adiamor.com

Thanks for the suggestion! I have to purchase one of Dream Stone's diamonds as they already have my setting.
Is there a way I could direct message you with a few options that I found that seem like a good buy (they're around 1k) ? I don't see a DM feature here.

 

[DejaWiz]

Thanks for the suggestion! I have to purchase one of Dream Stone's diamonds as they already have my setting.
Is there a way I could direct message you with a few options that I found that seem like a good buy (they're around 1k) ? I don't see a DM feature here.

Contact DreamStone and ask if they have access to that one.
No DM function here at PS, but I'm easy to find at Reddit, so you can start a chat with me there (not a DM...that function there is buggy as heck).