Your thoughts on the specs and idealscope images

[Lal]

Hi

I''m looking to purchase a pair of earrings. I think I''ve narrowed my search down and I am just hoping for confirmation before I purchase.

Stone 1:
0.43 J VS2
VG cut, EX polish/symmetry
depth 60.9
table 55
crown 33.5
pavilion 40.4
4.86x4.9x2.97
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1287171.asp

Stone 2:
0.44 J VS2
VG cut/polish, EX symmetry
depth 52.4
table 54
crown 35
pavilion 40
4.84x4.87x3.03
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1287179.asp


Some questions I have:
Would the feather in the first stone be a concern?
Will these be a good matching pair in terms of performance?
Should these face up white given the cut?

I''ll try posting idealscope images in my next post.
Thanks in advance for all your feedback!!

 

[Lal]

Oops, it looks like 1 idealscope image made it to my first scope. That image is for th efirst stone, 0.43 J VS2

Here is the idealscope image for the second stone

 

[stone-cold11]

Should be ok for ear-rings although the 2nd stone's pavilion angle might be a bit too shallow.

Maybe this is a better match for #1.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1287221.asp

 

[Dreamer_D]

Is that depth right on the second stone? Second IS looks strange.

I think they will face up white enough for earrings and the tables and diameters are a good match.

 

[Lal]

Oops, my error. Second stone 0.44 J VS2 has a depth of 62.4
I think the idealscope on the first stone, 0.43 J VS2 looks good (it sounds like you all agree with this?).
I''m not totally sure about the second stone right now.. but will it REALLY make a visual difference?

 

[Lal]

Date: 3/25/2010 10:19:39 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Should be ok for ear-rings although the 2nd stone''s pavilion angle might be a bit too shallow.


Maybe this is a better match for #1.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1287221.asp

Thanks for your feedback and suggestion Actually I considered that one but Jim mentioned it looks "dark under the table" which is why we''ve eliminated that one.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 3/25/2010 11:15:16 PM
Author: Lal
Oops, my error. Second stone 0.44 J VS2 has a depth of 62.4
I think the idealscope on the first stone, 0.43 J VS2 looks good (it sounds like you all agree with this?).
I''m not totally sure about the second stone right now.. but will it REALLY make a visual difference?

What does JA think? At that size and on your ears I would personally be a little less concerned about perfection.

 

[Lal]

Date: 3/25/2010 11:33:01 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Date: 3/25/2010 11:15:16 PM

Author: Lal

Oops, my error. Second stone 0.44 J VS2 has a depth of 62.4

I think the idealscope on the first stone, 0.43 J VS2 looks good (it sounds like you all agree with this?).

I''m not totally sure about the second stone right now.. but will it REALLY make a visual difference?

What does JA think? At that size and on your ears I would personally be a little less concerned about perfection.

Based on the idealscope, JA says they look fantastic. I wasn''t sure about the second IS image- not sure what all the extra grey/black spots are about around the table/arrows. I could be over-analyzing. If there''s really no cause for concern, then I''ll ask them to do a final visual inspection with stones in hand to confirm the performance

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 3/25/2010 11:20:32 PM
Author: Lal

Date: 3/25/2010 10:19:39 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

Should be ok for ear-rings although the 2nd stone's pavilion angle might be a bit too shallow.

Maybe this is a better match for #1.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1287221.asp

Thanks for your feedback and suggestion Actually I considered that one but Jim mentioned it looks 'dark under the table' which is why we've eliminated that one.

that is due to obstruction from the camera being close to the stone, should not be a problem with a earring stone as you will not be viewing that stone that close. I would be more concern with the 40 degree pavilion stone, as the obstruction from that is from a further source, meaning you will probably be able to see the dark arrow shaft from normal viewing distance.

 

[Lal]

Date: 3/25/2010 11:37:03 PM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 3/25/2010 11:20:32 PM

Author: Lal

Date: 3/25/2010 10:19:39 PM


Author: Stone-cold11


Should be ok for ear-rings although the 2nd stone''s pavilion angle might be a bit too shallow.


Maybe this is a better match for #1.


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1287221.asp

Thanks for your feedback and suggestion Actually I considered that one but Jim mentioned it looks ''dark under the table'' which is why we''ve eliminated that one.

that is due to obstruction from the camera being close to the stone, should not be a problem with a earring stone as you will not be viewing that stone that close. I would be more concern with the 40 degree pavilion stone, as the obstruction from that is from a further source, meaning you will probably be able to see the dark arrow shaft from normal viewing distance.

Hmm, so how can I tell for sure if this (shallow pavilion angle) is a problem? Could I just ask for a visual inspection- how would I word it?
Regarding the other suggested stone that I mention- would seeing an IS help?

 

[stone-cold11]

Maybe Karl can shed more light on this if he happens to visit this thread or you can start a thread to page him.

If not, I would request a session with one of JA''s gemologist and ask which pair from the 3 would be a better pair for ear-ring stones.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/25/2010 11:50:30 PM
Author: Lal


Hmm, so how can I tell for sure if this (shallow pavilion angle) is a problem? Could I just ask for a visual inspection- how would I word it?
Regarding the other suggested stone that I mention- would seeing an IS help?

Just tell JA you are concerned in view of the shallow pavilion angle and the IS image that the stone is showing obstruction and can one of the gemologists evaluate the diamond for you to see if it looks dark in the viewing situations it will be worn in ( earring).

 

[Lal]

Date: 3/26/2010 7:59:52 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/25/2010 11:50:30 PM

Author: Lal




Hmm, so how can I tell for sure if this (shallow pavilion angle) is a problem? Could I just ask for a visual inspection- how would I word it?

Regarding the other suggested stone that I mention- would seeing an IS help?

Just tell JA you are concerned in view of the shallow pavilion angle and the IS image that the stone is showing obstruction and can one of the gemologists evaluate the diamond for you to see if it looks dark in the viewing situations it will be worn in ( earring).

Thank you So far, the response is that the 0.44 ct did appear slightly darker than the 0.43 when compared side to side. However, the slightly shallower pavilion angle on the 0.44 is mostly offset by the slightly more steep crown. We''re going to wait and compare with the other stone to see which two stones of the 3 are the best.
Thank you everyone for your help. Also, I''m very appreciative of JA''s service so far- they have been super patient with me!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/26/2010 5:58:50 PM
Author: Lal

Date: 3/26/2010 7:59:52 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/25/2010 11:50:30 PM

Author: Lal





Hmm, so how can I tell for sure if this (shallow pavilion angle) is a problem? Could I just ask for a visual inspection- how would I word it?

Regarding the other suggested stone that I mention- would seeing an IS help?

Just tell JA you are concerned in view of the shallow pavilion angle and the IS image that the stone is showing obstruction and can one of the gemologists evaluate the diamond for you to see if it looks dark in the viewing situations it will be worn in ( earring).

Thank you So far, the response is that the 0.44 ct did appear slightly darker than the 0.43 when compared side to side. However, the slightly shallower pavilion angle on the 0.44 is mostly offset by the slightly more steep crown. We''re going to wait and compare with the other stone to see which two stones of the 3 are the best.
Thank you everyone for your help. Also, I''m very appreciative of JA''s service so far- they have been super patient with me!

It might not be noticeable in an earring concerning the obstruction, but see if they can find another match that doesn''t look dark in comparison.