Yellow Sapphire for E-Ring

[Kahlua]

After a lot of searching online, we ordered this sapphire today, and I was hoping to get your thoughts on it. It is 1.29ct and measures in at 7.75 x 5.30mm. We were concentrating on finding a very well cut, rectangular, sunny yellow sapphire. We are planning to set it in a simple delicate diamond halo. It's hard to get a good read on the color from pictures, but I'm hoping we both love the color when it comes in.


http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php?search[terms]=r4181&search[mode]=any

 

[Niel]

It looks extremely similar to a sapphire I just bought. Similar CTW. Similar LxW. Similar cut. From Thailand.
The place I bought it had 2 or the more at the time. So I suspect part or the same lot, or whatever its called.

In regards to cut and color I like it of course as we bought one for an engagement ring.
My only concern is price. DBL seems to be selling it for more than I had seen.
If your comfortable with the price or if it works because they are making your setting, great! Then it may be worth the little extra $
Here's some pics of mine

 

[VapidLapid]

I think it is a lovely stone. I will be interested to hear when you have it in hand, if it has a tendency to show a greenish tinge. In the picture it may or may just be picking up and reflecting a color in the room. It has nice hue and saturation and a limpid crystal. Cutting is superior.

 

[minousbijoux]

It looks to be a pretty stone. Just make sure that you are aware of, and comfortable with, the level of treatment that the stone has had. With a yellow sapphire of that color, I would assume its been fully lattice diffused (a pretty invasive treatment) and pay accordingly. If they assure you that it has only been heat treated, feel free to come back here and share any lab reports they've provided as proof; we can tell you whether the lab report is sufficient or not. It looks to be nicely cut to boot.

 

[Kahlua]

Our sapphire came in and it is really beautiful, bright yellow and very sparkly. Roger Dery really did a beautiful job, the cut is lovely and sparklier than I expected. Here are some photos:





Niel I'm not sure if they would have been part of the same lot because the sapphires from that vendor seem to go really quick and this stone has been on the DBL website for at least a year. Your SIL's ring is gorgeous! I can't wait to see what she pairs it with.

VapidLapid, the camera does pick up a slight greenish tint when it is sparkling in the sunlight but you can barely see it with the eye even in direct sunlight.

My one concern is that there are no lab reports to go with the stone. We will probably take it to an appraiser this weekend since we really have no experience buying gemstones. Anything else I should be concerned with?

 

[Niel]

Niel I'm not sure if they would have been part of the same lot because the sapphires from that vendor seem to go really quick and this stone has been on the DBL website for at least a year. Your SIL's ring is gorgeous! I can't wait to see what she pairs it with.[\quote]

Amazing. Haha I'm sure your right bit they are so stinking similar.

Somebody already thought her ring was a yellow diamond lol. I'm sure that'll happen to you.


Beautiful stone !

 

[FrekeChild]

I would send it to AGL in NYC for a lab report and make sure that DBL knows that you are doing that, and that you will return the stone or ask for a partial refund if it comes back with any signs of BE treatment.

 

[chrono]

How does the DBL's photography compare to what you see in person? If you love the stone and it is a keeper, contact DBL and ask about sending the stone to AGL for a brief. It should be around $60 and could take a week or 2.

 

[Kahlua]

We love the stone, but when I contacted DBL with the concern I was told the report would cost $200 and it wasn't cost effective to test. The fact that it would actually run around sixty with a reputable lab is definitely concerning. There is an AGL certified appraiser here locally, should I skip that and go with the lab in NYC?

Chrono, I would say the stone was maybe a bit lighter than the pictures they provided but we were hoping that was the case since it looked like it might have been reflecting other things in the room.

 

[chrono]

I would go with the lab because they have very comprehensive lab equipment. They will test for heat, and if all goes well, will be verified as heat only. If they suspect more than regular heat, they will contact you and let you know.
http://aglgemlab.com/pricelist

 

[minousbijoux]

Kahlua: the bottom line is that a lab and appraisers have overlapping but basically different functions. The concern I originally raised is that if it has been highly treated (by that I mean cooking the stone and introducing foreign elements that change the stone's color in a permanent fashion), the price should be much lower than one that has not been treated - and much, much lower than a stone that has not been treated or heated at all. While a good colored stone appraiser can often give you a good idea as to whether it is unheated or not, that is as far as they can often go, as it requires highly specialized (and hugely costly) equipment to determine any further, more invasive treatments. I don't know the price you paid (I'm not asking for you to divulge it btw), but knowing DBL, assume you paid slightly higher than a stone might have cost were you to have purchased it directly from the cutter. Moreover, it sounds like DBL assumed a low level of treatment when marketing it.

So, if you are lucky, all you would need is a $60 gem brief from AGL. If it turns out the stone has been heated and they are unable to dismiss the possibility of further more invasive treatment at that level of examination, they would likely suggest you pay for the full report, which is more in line with the price that DBL mentioned to you.

I have another thought, though. I - and many others - have nothing but the highest esteem for Roger Dery. If it truly is one of his stones, knowing Roger, he is likely to remember it well and likely can give you a very good idea of its treatment level. Of course, he is not the surety of a lab report, but many of us choose not to have his stones tested, instead taking him at his word. I'm not saying that is necessarily what will feel right to you, but that is an option. The one downside is that I **believe** Roger and Ginger are traveling right now in search of gem rough, so it might take some time for him to respond.