Would you purchase a non certified stone from ID Jewelery (or similar reputable vendor)?

[Chatz]

Hi all

Thanks for your advice on potential upgrade stones (looking at oval around 2.7 - 3 carats) It has got me thinking - I probably won't upgrade ever again, nor sell the stone (plus the purchase price quoted for my current GIA stone makes it not worth selling anyway)... so to maximise bang for buck I was wondering whether a diamond without certificate could be an option for me - with a big caveat - purchasing the stone from IDJ or similar where I've had a great experience before and I believe others have too?

All thoughts / advice welcome and appreciated!

 

[flyingpig]

No. I would not spend tens of thousands dollar on a diamond that is not graded by GIA or AGS.

Before we even discuss 4cs....

How do you ensure you are getting a real diamond?
Is it not synthetic?
Is it not coated, color treated, clarity enhanced?

The only way to ensure this is thru GIA or AGS.

And there is an insurance issue. If you ever lose or damage your stone, the insurance company will replace it with a random uncertified stone.

The diamond supplier and IDJ aren't fools. If they decided not to send it to GIA and potentially lose thousands of dollars in profit, there is a big reason.

 

[Chatz]

Hadn't even considered insurance!
Good one! Yeah it was an after thought but appreciate the frank feedback.

Cheers

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I can't imagine IDJ selling any 2+ ct stones ungraded. That would not be wise and would also indicate to me there was some negative reason (for the buyer) for the stone not to be graded. We are talking about maybe $200 to ship the stone and pay for the grading. That may be questionable for a .3 ct stone, but it's not even questionable with a stone over a carat.

 

[arkieb1]

I think places like IDJ will get you whatever you want. If people are on really bargain budgets they find stones that are without certificates or ones from labs that have a more lenient grading system but if you ask for a triple ex cut H & A stone with something like a GIA certificate then I'm sure they can find you that as well.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Good point arkieb1
If a consumer wants a 3 carat diamond for $5000, they're out there. It will look like carp- or be filled or have other major issues. It's highly unlikely such a stone would have a GIA report.
I think the confusion consumers face is being led to believe they save money by foregoing GIA. Sellers using that as a selling point are playing on the fact many consumers do t know the ins and outs.
On any large stone that is not in this category please don't forego the value of having the correct (GIA or AGS) report. Such a report adds far more value than the cost of the report.