Would you hold out for an extra 2/10th mm?

[Dreamer_D]

Thinking about upgrading my diamond color and/or size. I wonder if you would wait, maybe a long time (6months?) to find the right diamond if it meant an extra .2mm? I imagine that extra two tenths of a mm would cost ~ $1000. That would bring me up to a 1.4ct from a 1.2ct, hence the wait

Those sizes in an eye clean SI2 are rare!

 

[wsu12]

Personally, I am very impatient so I would not wait. But this may be something worth waiting for.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Okay, I will stop being coy

I have indeed been considering the 1.2ct G SI2 the BGD presently has available, which a couple people mentioned on another of my one million zillion threads

I had purposely not mentioned the diamond but when others mentioned it I knew I should act to reserve it before it got snatched out from under me!

The diamond is almost the exact same mm spread as my current diamond -- .038ct bigger -- but it is a whopping four color grades higher. It is also completely eye clean unless you look at t *very* closely from about 3 inches and have eagle eyes. The price is also wonderful, only about ~1200 more than my present diamond.

Sooooo... the question REALLY is whether I should wait to try and find that elusive H/I SI2 that is just under 1.5cts... perhaps a 1.4ct, or whether I should snap this puppy up? Waiting could be a while and would garner an extra 2/10th of a mm.

This will be my last upgrade for a loooong time so I want a diamond I really love. This one seems perfect but I wonder if a *tad* bigger would be better?

Any thoughts?

 

[vanderaf]

Yes, I would be willing to wait. I have a 7mm diamond and I have a 1.5 ct as well. The difference from 7mm to 7.35mm was very noticable to me and could make you very happy if you go from 1.20 to 1.40.

 

[LD]

What''s most important to you? The colour or the size?

If it''s the size you''re really not gaining anything. If it''s colour and you''re very colour sensitive then 4 colour grades will make a difference.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Picture

 

[vanderaf]

I just saw your other post. The BGD diamond is a fabulous deal and is hard to come by. Hmmmm...although, something else could magically apeear at any time. I am sure if you talk to Leslie and let her know your requirments that they could find you something larger. It might just take a little time. I guess I would see if Lesly thinks they are hard to come by and take if from there.

 

[Dreamer_D]

IS

 

[Circe]

Hm, decisions, decisions ....

If this is going to be your last upgrade for a long time, I''d say wait: otherwise, given the psychology of the diamond addict (uh, just going on personal experience here

), you''ll be good for the immediate future. Fascinated, fixated, delighted by that white searchlight gleaming up from your finger! But in a year or two ... there''s the possibility you''ll be thinking "what if?" and trying to imagine your ring gaining a little weight.

On the other hand, if "long time" is a period that''s likely to not exceed your joy and delight in the whiteness of the stone, go for it. It does look like a beautiful stone. Me, I think I''d want size *and* color before I upgraded ....

 

[gemgirl]

OK, so I''ll volunteer to play devil''s

advocate here. Since B&L have a life time upgrade policy, why not upgrade now to that G SI2 to soothe the savage beast that is that K that''s nagging and taunting you, and then later on, six months, maybe a year from now, then kick your 1.20 G up to a 1.35/1.40 or whatever comes in in that range that fits into your budget at the time? Heads on rings are just heads, and for all practical purposes, the head on your ring wouldn''t have to be changed now. The color would just be different, pretty noticably though. Later on, a new head for just a few bucks (relatively speaking).

Love ya'' dd, just want you to be happy.

 

[DianaBanana]

Date: 11/27/2009 12:37:08 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Okay, I will stop being coy

I have indeed been considering the 1.2ct G SI2 the BGD presently has available, which a couple people mentioned on another of my one million zillion threads

I had purposely not mentioned the diamond but when others mentioned it I knew I should act to reserve it before it got snatched out from under me!

The diamond is almost the exact same mm spread as my current diamond -- .038ct bigger -- but it is a whopping four color grades higher. It is also completely eye clean unless you look at t *very* closely from about 3 inches and have eagle eyes. The price is also wonderful, only about ~1200 more than my present diamond.

Sooooo... the question REALLY is whether I should wait to try and find that elusive H/I SI2 that is just under 1.5cts... perhaps a 1.4ct, or whether I should snap this puppy up? Waiting could be a while and would garner an extra 2/10th of a mm.

This will be my last upgrade for a loooong time so I want a diamond I really love. This one seems perfect but I wonder if a *tad* bigger would be better?

Any thoughts?

Woops! Sorry!!

I''d probably inch my way into the larger stone over an upgrade or two, this one gives you the color you want for a relatively small amount of money. You''d probably need to spend another $5000 to get into the 1.5 carat range....if it''s in the budget, I''d have Lesley start looking and wait for the right one, but if it''s not, I''d buck up for that BGD beauty now.

 

[gemgirl]

dd, what''s the nature of the inclusion/s that make it a SI2 and where are they?

 

[Dreamer_D]

inclusions: Crystal, cavity (sounds gross!), feather, needle. No clouds! Brian says it is eye clean, I feel it will be ok to me. I don''t loupe my diamonds

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 12:40:17 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds
What''s most important to you? The colour or the size?

If it''s the size you''re really not gaining anything. If it''s colour and you''re very colour sensitive then 4 colour grades will make a difference.

Size is more important. But I cannot afford to jump over 1.5cts any.time.soon, even if I stay with a K! So the maximum increase in size we are talking about with the potential future stone is 0.40mm I guess -- 6.8mm (1.ct) to 7.2mm (1.4ct). Definitely noticable to the eye... but not much!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 12:42:46 PM
Author: vanderaf
I just saw your other post. The BGD diamond is a fabulous deal and is hard to come by. Hmmmm...although, something else could magically apeear at any time. I am sure if you talk to Leslie and let her know your requirments that they could find you something larger. It might just take a little time. I guess I would see if Lesly thinks they are hard to come by and take if from there.

And that is why I am thinking about it. It is about $600 less than anything else available at the moment from other vendors, some of which are not eye clean (I checked

)

 

[gemgirl]

dd, crystals, feathers and needles are all insignificant if very tiny. The only thing that concerns me is the "cavity" characteristic. Have you spoken to Brian personally about this stone?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Here is the size difference we are talking about going from a 1.2 to a 1.4...

 

[gemgirl]

Is the 1.215 H SI 1 for $7200 too high? Or a 1.225 I SI 1 for $6500.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:52:11 PM
Author: gemgirl
dd, crystals, feathers and needles are all insignificant if very tiny. The only thing that concerns me is the ''cavity'' characteristic. Have you spoken to Brian personally about this stone?

I have spoken to Lesley. If I go further I will talk to Brian about the cavity though. FWIW, Lesley says Brian is being pretty picky about the stone he chooses these days. Most SI2s he is rejecting. This is the only one in their inventory right now.

 

[gemgirl]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:56:59 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 11/27/2009 1:52:11 PM
Author: gemgirl
dd, crystals, feathers and needles are all insignificant if very tiny. The only thing that concerns me is the ''cavity'' characteristic. Have you spoken to Brian personally about this stone?

I have spoken to Lesley. If I go further I will talk to Brian about the cavity though. FWIW, Lesley says Brian is being pretty picky about the stone he chooses these days. Most SI2s he is rejecting. This is the only one in their inventory right now.

I thought it had the smiley face on it because it probably got his seal of approval, and if that''s the case, you have no worries!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:59:12 PM
Author: gemgirl

Date: 11/27/2009 1:56:59 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 11/27/2009 1:52:11 PM
Author: gemgirl
dd, crystals, feathers and needles are all insignificant if very tiny. The only thing that concerns me is the ''cavity'' characteristic. Have you spoken to Brian personally about this stone?

I have spoken to Lesley. If I go further I will talk to Brian about the cavity though. FWIW, Lesley says Brian is being pretty picky about the stone he chooses these days. Most SI2s he is rejecting. This is the only one in their inventory right now.

I thought it had the smiley face on it because it probably got his seal of approval, and if that''s the case, you have no worries!

hahah... I thought that little eye rolling guy was a mistake and told Lesley about it. She said it was to indicate that it was a really good deal. haha

 

[february2003bride]

I would go for it. Get the higher color and see how you like it. BGD has such a great trade in policy that when the right bigger diamond comes along, you''ll know exactly where you preference falls in terms of color!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:56:56 PM
Author: gemgirl
Is the 1.215 H SI 1 for $7200 too high? Or a 1.225 I SI 1 for $6500.

Yes and yes

This is pushing it esp. since I just upgraded. I would rather have higher color and pay less anyways

I don''t care about inclusions as long as I can''t see them under regular viewing conditions.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:56:59 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 11/27/2009 1:52:11 PM
Author: gemgirl
dd, crystals, feathers and needles are all insignificant if very tiny. The only thing that concerns me is the ''cavity'' characteristic. Have you spoken to Brian personally about this stone?

I have spoken to Lesley. If I go further I will talk to Brian about the cavity though. FWIW, Lesley says Brian is being pretty picky about the stone he chooses these days. Most SI2s he is rejecting. This is the only one in their inventory right now.

OK, so I spoke to Brian and all the inclusion, including the cavity, are located under the table. Sounds bad, but this is the most active part of the diamond and so it is the most difficult place to see inclusions. He looked at the diamond and said the cavity is very very tiny and not a concern, beyond mind clean issues I guess. The inclusions can be seen by eagle eyes at 3inches. And if I took extreme close-up arrows shots.

And therein is the rub

I want to go up in color but I am unsure whether I will care about the inclusions. The reality is that if this diamond with this color (High G, closer to F according to Brian) was an SI1 it would cost $1700 more!

Other than this diamond, in my price range, the only other jump up would be to an I or J SI1. But that isn''t a very big move...

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:11:02 PM
Author: Circe
Hm, decisions, decisions ....

If this is going to be your last upgrade for a long time, I''d say wait: otherwise, given the psychology of the diamond addict (uh, just going on personal experience here

), you''ll be good for the immediate future. Fascinated, fixated, delighted by that white searchlight gleaming up from your finger! But in a year or two ... there''s the possibility you''ll be thinking ''what if?'' and trying to imagine your ring gaining a little weight.

On the other hand, if ''long time'' is a period that''s likely to not exceed your joy and delight in the whiteness of the stone, go for it. It does look like a beautiful stone. Me, I think I''d want size *and* color before I upgraded ....

Yes, ideally me too. But that would cost about $3000 to get a 1.3 H SI1, which is only .2mm larger. And that is the type of financial outlay that would have to wait a looong while. A number of years at least, and who knows what diamond prices would be then? Going over 1.5ct means 5k more at least, more for color too!

Beer budget, champagne taste!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:34:45 PM
Author: gemgirl
OK, so I''ll volunteer to play devil''s

advocate here. Since B&L have a life time upgrade policy, why not upgrade now to that G SI2 to soothe the savage beast that is that K that''s nagging and taunting you, and then later on, six months, maybe a year from now, then kick your 1.20 G up to a 1.35/1.40 or whatever comes in in that range that fits into your budget at the time? Heads on rings are just heads, and for all practical purposes, the head on your ring wouldn''t have to be changed now. The color would just be different, pretty noticably though. Later on, a new head for just a few bucks (relatively speaking).

Love ya'' dd, just want you to be happy.

This is what Lesley said

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 1:35:05 PM
Author: DianaBanana

Date: 11/27/2009 12:37:08 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Okay, I will stop being coy

I have indeed been considering the 1.2ct G SI2 the BGD presently has available, which a couple people mentioned on another of my one million zillion threads

I had purposely not mentioned the diamond but when others mentioned it I knew I should act to reserve it before it got snatched out from under me!

The diamond is almost the exact same mm spread as my current diamond -- .038ct bigger -- but it is a whopping four color grades higher. It is also completely eye clean unless you look at t *very* closely from about 3 inches and have eagle eyes. The price is also wonderful, only about ~1200 more than my present diamond.

Sooooo... the question REALLY is whether I should wait to try and find that elusive H/I SI2 that is just under 1.5cts... perhaps a 1.4ct, or whether I should snap this puppy up? Waiting could be a while and would garner an extra 2/10th of a mm.

This will be my last upgrade for a loooong time so I want a diamond I really love. This one seems perfect but I wonder if a *tad* bigger would be better?

Any thoughts?

Woops! Sorry!!

I''d probably inch my way into the larger stone over an upgrade or two, this one gives you the color you want for a relatively small amount of money. You''d probably need to spend another $5000 to get into the 1.5 carat range....if it''s in the budget, I''d have Lesley start looking and wait for the right one, but if it''s not, I''d buck up for that BGD beauty now.

So not in the budget.. bought a house this year, had a baby... of yeah, and already upgraded to the K! LOL!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/27/2009 2:55:59 PM
Author: february2003bride
I would go for it. Get the higher color and see how you like it. BGD has such a great trade in policy that when the right bigger diamond comes along, you'll know exactly where you preference falls in terms of color!

LOL! Someone once called PSers like me "diamond renters". Seems apt at times.

I had an F diamond for a while, I sold it recently to my BIL (whence the money for the upgrade now

), and THAT is what started this whole color mess. must admit I really loved the icy white of the F. And I have an aquaintance who has a blaringly white diamond. It really catches me eye. So there it is, I think I know my preference for color.

But if I go to a G will I ever be able to go back down! That's how I would get over 1.5ct.

 

[february2003bride]

Dreamer- I haven''t checked BGD''s inventory but is there an H/I/J you can jump to? Do you need to zoom all the way from a K to a G? I think even a J with some med flor. will be noticeable enough for you.

 

[elle_chris]

Dreamer, based on your posts, I think we''re alot alike when it comes to color. I''ve had my G for about 2 years now and while sometimes I think I "want" a bigger stone, I now know I won''t sacrifice color to get it. so no upgrades for me

Since your friends blaring white diamond catches your eye, and you''ve already had an F, I think you should go for the G. It''s not always about size