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I''m looking at a K stone to bezel set in a pendant, but I''ve never seen a K in person. I''m curious as to whether most people think that 1) since it will be bezel set and 2) since it will be in a pendant, that any strong hint of color will be minimized? The stone is relatively small - less than a half carat. This is an ideal cut stone, so that should help it face up whiter as well.

My ering is a G and my eternity wedding band is F/G. Just curious as to what people think...

thanks!
 
Date: 4/19/2010 8:55:25 AM
Author:katiedid
I'm looking at a K stone to bezel set in a pendant, but I've never seen a K in person. I'm curious as to whether most people think that 1) since it will be bezel set and 2) since it will be in a pendant, that any strong hint of color will be minimized? The stone is relatively small - less than a half carat. This is an ideal cut stone, so that should help it face up whiter as well.

My ering is a G and my eternity wedding band is F/G. Just curious as to what people think...

thanks!
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Hi Katie

I would absolutely consider a well cut K colour for a pendant ( GIA or AGS graded), if you can, see if you can view some K colour in person of similar size, try Jareds to see their AGS0 Peerless brand as these should be well cut stones for a base of comparison.
 
I would definitely see a k in person before making your decision. I am not color sensitive until I reach a K color as there is a noticable tint face up.
 
My pendant is a K color and I am always wishing it was whiter. It is an ideal cut 1 carat diamond. J looks a lot whiter to me than K in person as I have an ideal cut J recut by BGD that looks very white next to my K. I hope that is helpful...
 
Thank you Lorelei and vanderaf - very helpful!!
 
I had K-coloured ACA studs and upgraded them to J BGD H&A Sign stones. Although no-one could tell that they were K''s, to *me* they looked a little too tinted and I''m now much happier with my J''s.

Also, I think the bezel would block some of the light which might make the diamond not as white, face-up. But I don''t know this for sure, not being a professional.

The difference btw J and K, in that size, is quite minimal. I would def go for J.
 
I have a 1ct, K, H&A from GOG in a bezel/ I can definitely see the color sometimes. Other times, it''s white. I keep thinking about upgrading the color but since it''s on my neck, and I don''t see it all the time, I''m usually ok with it.
The interesting thing is, if I was going to upgrade, I wouldn''t do it with a J, I''d stick to an H. Don''t think there''s enough of a difference to pay more for a J even though technically, the J is in the near colorless range.
 
thanks elle!
 
Date: 4/19/2010 9:34:06 AM
Author: katiedid
thanks elle!
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sure.

Btw, you''re right about the bezel covering most of the tint. the K won''t look the same from the top, it will be much whiter. I also have a G for my e-ring and I color studs. I don''t worry about the differences in color as no one can focus on all of them at the same time.
 
Good point - it''s not like all of them are lined up next to each other. I''m just torn about whether to go with the K or drop to an H that''s a little smaller and a little more $$.
 
definitely:-) My pendant is a .412 BGD signature H&A K SI1 in their bezel setting (the handmade one with the open culet) I love it and it looks white white white.
 
thanks bella - did you ever post neck shots? Your pendant looks/sounds amazing!
 
Katie- if you''re going with one of the vendors here, I''d ask them to send both to you to see which you prefer.
 
thanks elle. I''m hoping I can judge the K if I see a photo of it (like an IRL photo - not the official glamour shot vendor photo).
 
I have owned a K and would not buy another one. I actually found that the K faced up with a slight tint, unlike J and higher which seem to face up on the whiter side. So my preference would be to stick with J or higher. ETA You can't judge by photos, you really need to see some in person to know what you think. Like Elle, though, I would not worry about it being different that you e-ring unless you like to walk around holding your hand by your neck a lot like Scarlette O'Hara.
 
Date: 4/19/2010 10:53:06 AM
Author: dreamer_d
I have owned a K and would not buy another one. I actually found that the K faced up with a slight tint, unlike J and higher which seem to face up on the whiter side. So my preference would be to stick with J or higher.
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I think your observation on the J vs K is interesting. I''ve never seen a well cut J, but my appraiser (who''s very tough on color), said my K was a J. So whatever it is, I still see the tint from time to time. I think that''s why I wouldn''t spend extra on a J.
 
thanks dreamer and elle. I''m thinking now I should go J or higher (and am hoping the H I have in mind might work out, as that one would surely be white enough).
 
Date: 4/19/2010 11:02:43 AM
Author: katiedid
thanks dreamer and elle. I''m thinking now I should go J or higher (and am hoping the H I have in mind might work out, as that one would surely be white enough).
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H would definitely be plenty white, esp for a pendant.

I guess it''d depend on how colour-sensitive one is. I *personally* wouldn''t go to as high as an H for a pendant (or earrings for that matter). Sure, I''d LOVE to have H-coloured earrings but I would (and have) gone lower in colour to get more size - more bang for my buck. But hey, to each their own.
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For a pendant I would go I/J personally. No need to spend on higher color.
 
This really is a matter of personal preference Katie and as suggested by other people earlier in the thread, I think it is important for you to take a look at a K color diamond, hold it up to your neck and see if you like the way it looks.

Diamond color is kind of a funny thing, we tend to think of it in terms of diamond quality, when really it is a factor of rarity... This is said from the perspective that Diamond Cut Quality is the only factor which is something that we have any control over and everything else is a matter of nature and Mother Nature doesn''t seem to be all that concerned about quality, nor consistency
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and on that note, it is arguable whether man has all that much control over Diamond Cut Quality because I know for a fact that ultimately it is the diamond which decides whether it will allow the cutter to transform it into a diamond with zero ideal proportions, or whether it will take the polish at the angle the cutter is striving for, so maybe the concept of control is all an illusion after all.

My mother is a BIG FAN of diamonds in the K-L-M-N range, while I''m partial to those in the colorless and near colorless range... but I sell a lot of K-L-M-N color diamonds, so there must be people out there besides my mother who like them!

I say if you''re engagement ring is a G color diamond, but you opt for a K color diamond because you like the look and it provides you with the size you are looking for in terms of a pendant, then so be it... And if you want to put L color diamonds in your ears because that is what you''re in the mood for, that''s great too. And if somebody else prefers D color everything, that''s their choice as well. The only person who can say whether K color is acceptable to you, is you.
 
May or may not go with your skin tone. May or may not ''go'' with your other diamonds (''match'' them) according to your taste. You can only tell when you look at one yourself.
There are some on PS who swear that ''lower'' color diamonds are absolutely the most beautiful, others who put up with them to get the size they want, and yet others who wouldn''t go near one and only like as white as possible.

I do think that in real life, though, few notice exactly what color your diamond is, especially on a pendant (who gets that close to your neck?) unless it is actually a champagne diamond or if someone puts a whiter diamond next to it (and who is going to do that with your pendant?) People do not go around with master stone sets and what most people notice about a diamond is a) size and b) whether or not it sparkles (not necessarily in that order).
 
I think that a K would be just fine, I would be very happy with it in a pendant.

If you''re buying from a vendor with a good return policy, if it is too warm for you, at least you''ll know what your preference is and you can return it and look again with that in mind.

Hope you find something perfect for your pendant.

Jen
 
Thanks everyone for your very thoughtful replies! At this point, I''m considering a J and an H:

J VS1
4.83 x 4.88 x 2.96

H SI2
4.93 x 4.95 x 3.04

The H is 2 color grades "whiter", is a little larger, and is only $75 more. The only reason I''m thinking the H is because I''ve been very sensitive to color in the past. I had an H stone and traded it for a G and could tell a decent difference.
 
I think if you may be colour sensitive the best seting to try a lower coloured stone is in a pendant because you don''t see it yourself as much as a ring. You can''t examine it in every light as you go about your day without taking it off so it''s unlikely the colour, if the is any visable, will bother you.
 
K in platinum thread

There is a K pendant on page 1 of that thread.

I possibly could live with a J for a pendant. I'm not sure about K. I have a J in a YG ring (wanted something small and inexpensive to wear daily.) My J definitely wants a YG mounting. We dropped it into WG, platinum, and YG, and YG is definitely the most flattering to it. H in that size will be very white.
 
Date: 4/19/2010 3:22:28 PM
Author: katiedid
Thanks everyone for your very thoughtful replies! At this point, I''m considering a J and an H:


J VS1

4.83 x 4.88 x 2.96


H SI2

4.93 x 4.95 x 3.04


The H is 2 color grades ''whiter'', is a little larger, and is only $75 more. The only reason I''m thinking the H is because I''ve been very sensitive to color in the past. I had an H stone and traded it for a G and could tell a decent difference.
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You just answered your own question--better go for the H. A person who was bothered by the difference between an H and a G really should not go down to J. You would be constantly irritated, constantly excusing it and explaining and it wouldn''t be worth it. Plus, the H is bigger and you were concerned about the size.

If you look on the pendant thread,you will see plenty of people who are happy with .25 and .33 pendants, your H selection is bigger than .50 so should be quite significant and look very nice, especially since you are paying attention to cut quality. Of the people I know who own diamond pendants, the vast majority are 1/4 to 1/3 carat and I would think most people (off of Pricescope) would consider a .50 to be big.
 
Katiedid-No neckshots yet...I am a bad PSer
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things have been so crazy--I owe PS a photo shoot of my pendant and my antique five stone.
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Things have been insane, but I am hopeful that this weekend I can take some shots.
I think that size plays a big role in how white Ks face up. My .412 is quite white, and I think the bezel helps, but also it''s on your neck so 1. you can''t stare at it and obsess all day, and 2. other people will never see it from closer than about 2 -3 feet away.
 
ah-I just read the second half of the thread...I would get the H if they are both the same cut quality. I would be bothered even less by lower clarity in a pendant as long as it doesn''t effect light performance, but the color seems very imp. to you and an ideal cut H will look blazing white on your neck for sure!
 
I would consider a K - but would be more likely to stick with J - my studs are Js and I see no colour from the top (front)
 
You all have been so helpful and provided so many good points to consider! I''m probably gonna go with the H. I know the color will work great for me, it''s a little bigger than the J, but not quite as big as the K (which I''ve now ruled out) and it will be a good size bezeled. It''s just under .5ct. I already have a .75 G SI1 that''s bezeled in a pendant (it''s a big thick setting though and not a great cut so even though I like it alot, it''s not a forever pendant - especially because one day it''ll be my daughter''s...). Thank you SO much for all the great advice! I''ll be back...
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