Would anyone here buy a D/SI2 H&A eye-clean stone?

[Brilyant]

Date: 12/11/2007 6:50:37 PM
Author: icekid
Sure, here is the thread with quite a few pics! enjoy


https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/at-long-last.45184/

Wow, that definitely is EYE-CLEAN! Is that from WF? Beautiful!!

 

[angeline]

I had a 2.1 F SI2 ES from WF. They said it wasn''t eye-clean at 3 inches, but I could still never ever see anything with the naked eye.

If they''re saying it''s eye-clean, it will definitely be!

Looks like a winner!

 

[Brilyant]

Guys and girls, here''s what the Hearts look like on the ring - does it look kind of distorted to you?

http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-8986501.jpg

 

[Sparkalicious]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:15:50 AM
Author: Brilyant
Guys and girls, here''s what the Hearts look like on the ring - does it look kind of distorted to you?

http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-8986501.jpg

Not really ... could just be the picture?

I''m thinking that it takes incredible symmetry to create both the hearts and arrows pattern in your diamond, therefore, if the hearts of off, just a little bit or in a negligible fashion, if they were, would it be a big deal since you don''t see them once your diamond is set in your setting?

If this was a concern for you, this diamond still ooks like it would be a good one for you, especially given that it is such a great deal - best of both worlds, not "seeing" any inclusions but not paying the premium if you were to go up a clarity grade.

Are you worried about the hearts & arrows pattern not being good? Will this be a dealbreaker?

 

[angeline]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:15:50 AM
Author: Brilyant
Guys and girls, here's what the Hearts look like on the ring - does it look kind of distorted to you?


http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-8986501.jpg

If it's an ACA, then it is H&A super-ideal, so the hearts will be perfect. WF have incredibly high standards as to what constitutes an ACA. Check out their FAQ where they discuss this.

edited to add: is it the inclusions in the heart pic that are throwing you? They seem to be visible in the pattern.

 

[Brilyant]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:24:26 AM
Author: Sparkalicious

Date: 12/12/2007 12:15:50 AM

Author: Brilyant

Guys and girls, here''s what the Hearts look like on the ring - does it look kind of distorted to you?


http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-8986501.jpg

Not really ... could just be the picture?


I''m thinking that it takes incredible symmetry to create both the hearts and arrows pattern in your diamond, therefore, if the hearts of off, just a little bit or in a negligible fashion, if they were, would it be a big deal since you don''t see them once your diamond is set in your setting?


If this was a concern for you, this diamond still ooks like it would be a good one for you, especially given that it is such a great deal - best of both worlds, not ''seeing'' any inclusions but not paying the premium if you were to go up a clarity grade.


Are you worried about the hearts & arrows pattern not being good? Will this be a dealbreaker?

I don''t think it will be a dealbreaker, but I don''t want it to be a fire/shimmer/sparkle breaker. Will it be?

 

[Brilyant]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:38:20 AM
Author: angeline

Date: 12/12/2007 12:15:50 AM

Author: Brilyant

Guys and girls, here''s what the Hearts look like on the ring - does it look kind of distorted to you?



http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-8986501.jpg

If it''s an ACA, then it is H&A super-ideal, so the hearts will be perfect. WF have incredibly high standards as to what constitutes an ACA. Check out their FAQ where they discuss this.


edited to add: is it the inclusions in the heart pic that are throwing you? They seem to be visible in the pattern.

I think it''s the inclusions.. they make it look like someone took a dagger to the hearts.

I can''t believe this can be eye-clean...

 

[Sparkalicious]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:54:07 AM
Author: Brilyant

I don''t think it will be a dealbreaker, but I don''t want it to be a fire/shimmer/sparkle breaker. Will it be?

In my non-expert opinion, I don''t think it will be ... That is pretty close to as good as it gets, if it isn''t as good as it gets already.

If you are worried about "how" eyeclean it is, maybe you should reiterate your expectations to the vendor and confirm that the stone will meet your expectations as opposed to the traditional "definition" of eye clean. This way you save yourself some disappointment in the long run simply due to a miscommunication of sorts.

 

[Brilyant]

Date: 12/12/2007 1:09:11 AM
Author: Sparkalicious

Date: 12/12/2007 12:54:07 AM

Author: Brilyant


I don't think it will be a dealbreaker, but I don't want it to be a fire/shimmer/sparkle breaker. Will it be?

In my non-expert opinion, I don't think it will be ... That is pretty close to as good as it gets, if it isn't as good as it gets already.


If you are worried about 'how' eyeclean it is, maybe you should reiterate your expectations to the vendor and confirm that the stone will meet your expectations as opposed to the traditional 'definition' of eye clean. This way you save yourself some disappointment in the long run simply due to a miscommunication of sorts.

I've been told a few times and reassured that it is eye-clean all around, even on the sides.

Check these hearts and arrows out - these better? This is a D/SI1, same size, $400 more.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/items/3764/hearts.jpg

http://www.goodoldgold.com/items/3764/arrows.jpg

Thank you!!

 

[Brilyant]

Which of these 3 would you choose?

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3833/#script 0.83, H/VS2/H&A, $3588 wired.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3764/#script 0.83, D/SI1/H&A, $4230 wired.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-471531.htm# 0.83, D/SI2/H&A, $3650 wired (on reserve by me)

HCA:

1. 1.5
2. 1.4
3. 1.1

I fell in love with #3, but when you look at the hearts portion, one of the pointed parts on the left towards the middle has a large inclusion right at the tip.. makes me nervous. I've never bought a diamond before and I don't want to go through any negative feelings/transactions/problems with this purchase.

 

[Lorelei]

Brilyant, it is natural to have second thoughts with a purchase of this magnitude - don't worry! Try to relax and know you can trust WF, they have sold more clean SI2's to delighted owners than you can shake a stick at - they know their stuff! As happened in another recent thread, you can't go by these magnified pics or images to determine if a diamond is eyeclean or not. These pics are blown up to an incredible extent, once you see the actual diamond and how tiny it is in comparison, that would put it into perspective any marks you see. Also an ACA is the best of the best, eyeballed and selected by one of the most respected and experienced diamond merchants in the world! Try to hang tight and see for yourself - if you don't like the diamond by some incredible chance, we will help you find another - WF have a great return policy. Also don't try to scrutinize and find faults with the H&A images yourself - unless you know what you are looking for it is easy to not really know what you are looking at. It is an ACA and a top notch diamond, you would be hard pressed to find better! Just try to go with the flow and know you did GREAT!!!

 

[DeeDeDee]

I have a D SI2 from Whiteflash (Expert Selection) that looks a lot like yours in the magnified image. We were worried about the inclusions too, so had the stone shipped for our personal ogling. We sent it back... to be set! This picture is the 40x magnified image they had on the listing.. (First time posting.. bear with me if it doesnt come right through!)

 

[DeeDeDee]

Here it is on my paw... It is eye clean to about 7 inches (per My Man Bob at Whiteflash). I can''t see them at that distance..

 

[DeeDeDee]

One more, my Baby on a typical day . As you can see, they do not affect the sparkliness. The stone is a 1.2 on HCA, so very close to your specs! Good luck with your purchase - you are in excellent company here.

 

[DeeDeDee]

oops.... poor newbie me , I forgot to attach the pic...

 

[Brilyant]

DeeDeDee, wow, that looks fantastic! What kind of setting is that? It looks different in the 1st and 3rd pics...

 

[Brilyant]

Date: 12/12/2007 2:25:00 AM
Author: Lorelei
Brilyant, it is natural to have second thoughts with a purchase of this magnitude - don''t worry! Try to relax and know you can trust WF, they have sold more clean SI2''s to delighted owners than you can shake a stick at - they know their stuff! As happened in another recent thread, you can''t go by these magnified pics or images to determine if a diamond is eyeclean or not. These pics are blown up to an incredible extent, once you see the actual diamond and how tiny it is in comparison, that would put it into perspective any marks you see. Also an ACA is the best of the best, eyeballed and selected by one of the most respected and experienced diamond merchants in the world! Try to hang tight and see for yourself - if you don''t like the diamond by some incredible chance, we will help you find another - WF have a great return policy. Also don''t try to scrutinize and find faults with the H&A images yourself - unless you know what you are looking for it is easy to not really know what you are looking at. It is an ACA and a top notch diamond, you would be hard pressed to find better! Just try to go with the flow and know you did GREAT!!!

Lorelei, you are probably right - I just do hours of research on anything that I buy, so this is no different (and much more expensive than any single purchase I''ve ever made outside of financing a car).

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:02:30 PM
Author: Brilyant

Date: 12/12/2007 2:25:00 AM
Author: Lorelei
Brilyant, it is natural to have second thoughts with a purchase of this magnitude - don''t worry! Try to relax and know you can trust WF, they have sold more clean SI2''s to delighted owners than you can shake a stick at - they know their stuff! As happened in another recent thread, you can''t go by these magnified pics or images to determine if a diamond is eyeclean or not. These pics are blown up to an incredible extent, once you see the actual diamond and how tiny it is in comparison, that would put it into perspective any marks you see. Also an ACA is the best of the best, eyeballed and selected by one of the most respected and experienced diamond merchants in the world! Try to hang tight and see for yourself - if you don''t like the diamond by some incredible chance, we will help you find another - WF have a great return policy. Also don''t try to scrutinize and find faults with the H&A images yourself - unless you know what you are looking for it is easy to not really know what you are looking at. It is an ACA and a top notch diamond, you would be hard pressed to find better! Just try to go with the flow and know you did GREAT!!!

Lorelei, you are probably right - I just do hours of research on anything that I buy, so this is no different (and much more expensive than any single purchase I''ve ever made outside of financing a car).

No worries! I have seen this many times before and even I have had a case of buyers panic / remorse with every major purchase - LOL! Just try to relax and know you did great, if the worst comes to the worst, you can always send the diamond back, but I bet you won''t want to!!

 

[DeeDeDee]

Thanks Brilyant! It is a WhiteFlash design, the Fine Line, except modified. I had it widened (to 4mm) also they eliminated the "doughnut" that is where the prongs meet on the original. Also is set lower. I love it - Whiteflash has an excellent quality product - I had a local jeweler mention it was a " lovely hand-made piece''..

 

[Lorelei]

Dee I forgot to say welcome and thanks so much for posting the pic of your gorgeous diamond to help reassure Brilyant!

 

[DeeDeDee]

Thank you , Lorelei! It is good to finally "come out" of lurkerdom!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/12/2007 12:26:54 PM
Author: DeeDeDee
Thank you , Lorelei! It is good to finally 'come out' of lurkerdom!

Good to have you here and nice job for Brilyant!

I am sure that your pics and advice will help give him confidence that he has a great rock to look forward to!

 

[Brilyant]

Any final/other opinions? I''ve got to make a decision by tomorrow morning!

 

[Sparkalicious]

Date: 12/12/2007 10:10:39 PM
Author: Brilyant
Any final/other opinions? I''ve got to make a decision by tomorrow morning!

Do it!

Trust your instinct and know that you have made a fantastic choice. If it ends up not being all that you want it to be, I believe that you have the option to return it within a specified period of time.

Go for it!! Can''t wait to see it.

 

[Lorelei]

Did you get it???