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bigbbd

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I recently designed an engagement ring for my girlfriend. it has 6 .07ct round stones on each side of the center princess cut diamond.

i am trying to find a terrific princess cut for the center. I would like for it to be around .70-.75ct and i am on a budget of $2400.

I would like the experts opinion on one i have found.

.71ct
E
VS1
71.7% depth
70% table
GIA
Med
Ex/Ex polish/symmetry
no culet
no flourescene(spelling)
price= $2389


so how does it sound?
 
Also, I have requested the crown angle and pavilion numbers. anything else I should know before buying?
 
Looks pretty good from what you've provided! What are the dimensions?
 
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On 6/21/2004 4:38:50 PM bigbbd wrote:

Also, I have requested the crown angle and pavilion numbers. anything else I should know before buying?----------------



What are those numbers good for?
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Yu might want to consider a princess cut with some proof of brilliance in place... or at least some visual representation. Beyond light return, the AGA refference charts work well.

Anyway, princess cuts come in different sizes for each given weight since the parameters of the cut vary more than what it is expected from a round brilliant. Something to consider, I suppose.

Beyond unknown brilliance, the stats available about your stone sound good. Not to mentions the price!
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Thanks for the quick feedbacks. From what I read in this forum the crown angle is best if it is above 9% and pavilion numbers, I have no idea.

How do I get the proof of brilliance and what can I compare it to?

The measurements are
5.04x4.99x3.58


Theres a space for Other Notes, it says 1.0 perfect square. Is this referring to the length to width ratio? Because I have seen other diamonds with 4.0 perfect square and other numbers. What exactly is this?
Thank You all for the help
 
Check out the cut charts at www.gemappraisers.com. Once you get all your specs, you can use the DIY System to rate the cut as well.

The specs you have posted look great so far. One criteria for rating princess cuts is the ratio of the length to width. You'll notice on the cut charts, a ratio of 1:1 to 1:1.05 is highly desireable. You have selected a very square stone!!

The cut charts are a great screening tool but princess cuts really need to be seen and evaluated in person. What sounds great on paper may be a dud of a performer. Some Vendors use a Brilliance Scope (like Good Old Gold) to give buyers a visual representation of performance prior to purchase. Other Vendors use an Ideal Scope to screen for contrast and areas of light leakage. Just extra tools to help in the screening process. An independent appraiser may be able to assist you with extra testing should you desire it.
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I am kinda freakin out here. I am comparing this diamond to others that on paper look worse but they are all expensive. I know better diamonds do not have to be expensive, but it is starting to creep in the back of my head that something is wrong with this diamond. Do most appraisers have ideal scopes or brilliance tests they can do?
 
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On 6/22/2004 12:15:05 AM bigbbd wrote:

I know better diamonds do not have to be expensive, but it is starting to creep in the back of my head that something is wrong with this diamond.

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yeah... the seller actually thought that offering a discoutn might help - as oposed to charging a premium to encourage buyers wander what's *better* about the stone
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You just need one appraiser to judge cut - and it needn't be via some 'scope. Those tools are suposed to compensate for buyers' limited experience and seller's temptation to present every and each diamodn "in a class by itself" - literally.

Just my 0.2, of course.
 
This stone is in the right diameter range for it's size (ideal would be an average of 5.05), so that's a good sign. As for the crown height, I wouldn't go below 10% myself, but many will go down to 8%. In terms of the pavilion numbers, you might want to check out the following site by White Flash:

http://www.princess-diamonds.com/guide_princess.asp

As for brilliance, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Once you have the Sarin Report info and an ideal scope image, you will pretty much know whether it's a good stone. Although people say you can't choose a stone by the numbers, I did and ended up with a beauty (just to be safe I got the BScope results, but it really wasn't necessary; I too did it because the price sounded too good to be true).
 
Sounds like a great stone. You've got excellent taste. Good luck....

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