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WHYYYYY--a thread

LightBright said:
I’ve been watching and admiring the items from this vendor for a while. I’ve suspected they are remounting stones into new settings and calling them antique. This one has to be new. Or maybe they have a specific preference for pieces that don’t look antique to me!

Has anyone seen a Victorian or Antique setting for a fairly big electric blue natural no heat sapphire that looks similar to Christy-Danielle’s repro DKJ classic? One of my favorite rings on Pricescope.(((((https://www.pricescope.com/communit...culptural-setting-in-18k-antique-gold.272366/)))))

This supposedly antique saphire that’s got perfect polish except for facet junctions that are worn?

So this is my whyyyyy.

Please rebut me, I don’t want to believe this is true.

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Two more examples from two other different vendors popped up today on Instagram. Both were modern cut antique stones, vendors vague on that fact, settings also modern replicas. I don’t have a problem with this as long as the vendors say they are modern cut, except I think we are losing what were once prototype cuts. It’s a technical expertise and art form that we’ve gotten away from.

I was going to post links but I don’t want to out vendors I admire and like.
 
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LightBright said:
Two more examples from two other different vendors popped up today on Instagram. Both were modern cut antique stones, vendors vague on that fact, settings also modern replicas. I don’t have a problem with this as long as the vendors say they are modern cut, except I think we are losing what were once prototype cuts. It’s a technical expertise and art form that we’ve gotten away from.

I was going to post links but I don’t want to out vendors I admire and like.
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That's incredibly disappointing. I heard from a vendor that many of us know that at least one vendor that many of us also know knowingly lies about their modern antique-style diamonds being genuine antiques (if true luckily the latter is not someone I see touted here often, but I expect people are familiar with them). Others don't go that far but like you said they certainly don't make it obvious when something is modern. And if I'm understanding you, I agree with you that we're kind of losing what some of these genuine antiques look like. With old mine cuts especially I think we have been so inundated by the modern and lab "old mine cuts" that a prototypical antique old mine cut almost needs a different name.
 
LightBright said:
Two more examples from two other different vendors popped up today on Instagram. Both were modern cut antique stones, vendors vague on that fact, settings also modern replicas. I don’t have a problem with this as long as the vendors say they are modern cut, except I think we are losing what were once prototype cuts. It’s a technical expertise and art form that we’ve gotten away from.

I was going to post links but I don’t want to out vendors I admire and like.
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That’s really unfortunate:(
 
Luckily there are clues, and yes, we are losing some of the old mine cut styles, which are very rare. It’s puzzling why most modern cutters don’t just attempt to cut to antique proportions since there are modern ways to scan/SARIN and cut with precision. But some cutters still do- for example, GemConcepts does gorgeous antique cuts that are faithful to antique proportions.
 
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LightBright said:
Luckily there are clues, and yes, we are losing some of the old mine cut styles, which are very rare. It’s puzzling why most modern cutters don’t just attempt to cut to antique proportions since there are modern ways to scan/SARIN and cut with precision. But some cutters still do- for example, GemConcepts does gorgeous antique cuts that are faithful to antique proportions.
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I kind of want to get my old mine SARIN scanned just from the curiosity, I don't even know if there's a way that a consumer can easily have it done...
 
newtojewels said:
I kind of want to get my old mine SARIN scanned just from the curiosity, I don't even know if there's a way that a consumer can easily have it done...
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A diamond cutter has all the equipment. If you can connect with one through a local jeweler I’m sure this can be done for you. They are located usually in proximity to the diamond districts. The problem is, jewelers like to keep their cutters away from the general public and like to be the middle man. Maybe Karl K can advise?

I’ve thought that all antique diamonds should be scanned in order to develop a database on antique cuts. Just dreaming!
 
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