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kenny|1487609426|4131155 said:
I did wonder about that....???
kenny|1487609426|4131155 said:
momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another.
Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
ruby59|1487631657|4131388 said:Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
Which view- the one she said publicly or the one she held privately?
Did you even listen to what she said about African American people and Jews?
Elliot86|1487621462|4131257 said:I see the daily Herring Run is in full swing!
Tekate|1487632195|4131396 said:ruby59|1487631657|4131388 said:Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
Which view- the one she said publicly or the one she held privately?
Did you even listen to what she said about African American people and Jews?
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/columns/fuchs-focus/president-hillary-clinton-definition-of-a-nightmare/2016/07/10/
what she said about AA was fake news or rather lying news and her SIL Marc is a jew. I say BS on both your statements.
Tekate|1487632195|4131396 said:ruby59|1487631657|4131388 said:Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
Which view- the one she said publicly or the one she held privately?
Did you even listen to what she said about African American people and Jews?
what she said about AA was fake news or rather lying news and her SIL Marc is a jew. I say BS on both your statements.
Isn't it you who brings up Trumps daughter converting and how that means he isn't anti semetic?ruby59|1487633155|4131404 said:Tekate|1487632195|4131396 said:ruby59|1487631657|4131388 said:Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
Which view- the one she said publicly or the one she held privately?
Did you even listen to what she said about African American people and Jews?
what she said about AA was fake news or rather lying news and her SIL Marc is a jew. I say BS on both your statements.
Her SIL is a Jew because her brother married a Jew.
So how does that make Hillary less of a anti semite?
telephone89|1487633434|4131406 said:Isn't it you who brings up Trumps daughter converting and how that means he isn't anti semetic?ruby59|1487633155|4131404 said:Tekate|1487632195|4131396 said:ruby59|1487631657|4131388 said:Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
Which view- the one she said publicly or the one she held privately?
Did you even listen to what she said about African American people and Jews?
what she said about AA was fake news or rather lying news and her SIL Marc is a jew. I say BS on both your statements.
Her SIL is a Jew because her brother married a Jew.
So how does that make Hillary less of a anti semite?
ruby59|1487622750|4131269 said:Elliot86|1487622668|4131267 said:SWOOSH
There goes one now!
Nature is so majestic.
Just trying to correct another one of your errors.
Yuuuup. Every time. Good point.telephone89|1487633434|4131406 said:Isn't it you who brings up Trumps daughter converting and how that means he isn't anti semetic?ruby59|1487633155|4131404 said:Tekate|1487632195|4131396 said:ruby59|1487631657|4131388 said:Tekate|1487631502|4131386 said:momhappy|1487620026|4131244 said:Calliecake|1487617631|4131214 said:Elliot86|1487610154|4131161 said:He's a sad little man who thrives on adoration, even if it's from drooling morons.
This sums it up perfectly!!! I'm convinced this all he wants to do, go from one rally to another.
Are we speaking of Trump or Bill Clinton..... Oh, must be Trump because all Clinton wanted to do was go from one woman to another [/quote
Yeah, just like grab 'em by the lady parts the donald! he even explains how to do it.. so maybe American women like men who are lady part grabbers and serial cheaters like the donald and the bill.
me, I voted on policy.. the bill (and Mrs Bill) hold more views of how America should be in this world, that's why I voted for them. I held my nose like many who said they did just that and voted for the Donald.
Which view- the one she said publicly or the one she held privately?
Did you even listen to what she said about African American people and Jews?
what she said about AA was fake news or rather lying news and her SIL Marc is a jew. I say BS on both your statements.
Her SIL is a Jew because her brother married a Jew.
So how does that make Hillary less of a anti semite?
ruby59|1487632745|4131401 said:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3635882/Hillary-Clinton-called-disabled-children-Easter-egg-hunt-f-ing-ree-tards-referred-Jews-stupid-k-s-Bill-called-Jesse-Jackson-damned-n-r-claims-Bill-s-former-lover.html
This was published in a book.
Did Hillary every sue for libel if it were not true?
katharath|1487634471|4131415 said:ruby59|1487632745|4131401 said:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3635882/Hillary-Clinton-called-disabled-children-Easter-egg-hunt-f-ing-ree-tards-referred-Jews-stupid-k-s-Bill-called-Jesse-Jackson-damned-n-r-claims-Bill-s-former-lover.html
This was published in a book.
Did Hillary every sue for libel if it were not true?
This. This is the problem in a nutshell.
"But how can it not be true? I read it somewhere!!"
That book/story was some InfoWars level BS. Ridiculous. But if it's in print, someone is going to believe it.
katharath|1487634471|4131415 said:ruby59|1487632745|4131401 said:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3635882/Hillary-Clinton-called-disabled-children-Easter-egg-hunt-f-ing-ree-tards-referred-Jews-stupid-k-s-Bill-called-Jesse-Jackson-damned-n-r-claims-Bill-s-former-lover.html
This was published in a book.
Did Hillary every sue for libel if it were not true?
This. This is the problem in a nutshell.
"But how can it not be true? I read it somewhere!!"
That book/story was some InfoWars level BS. Ridiculous. But if it's in print, someone is going to believe it.
lovedogs|1487634837|4131419 said:katharath|1487634471|4131415 said:ruby59|1487632745|4131401 said:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3635882/Hillary-Clinton-called-disabled-children-Easter-egg-hunt-f-ing-ree-tards-referred-Jews-stupid-k-s-Bill-called-Jesse-Jackson-damned-n-r-claims-Bill-s-former-lover.html
This was published in a book.
Did Hillary every sue for libel if it were not true?
This. This is the problem in a nutshell.
"But how can it not be true? I read it somewhere!!"
That book/story was some InfoWars level BS. Ridiculous. But if it's in print, someone is going to believe it.
But.....I read it.
If someone attributed those statements to me and I had financial means I would be in every court fighting it.
jaaron|1487639218|4131470 said:If someone attributed those statements to me and I had financial means I would be in every court fighting it.
It is almost impossible for a pubic figure to prove defamation--the bar is much higher for them than for ordinary citizens. The have to prove not only that it's false, but malice and damages. Plus, if politicians pursued legal action every time they were libelled, slandered or defamed, they'd clog up the courts and spend all their time doing it, so must choose to turn the other cheek. Example A Barack Obama, Donal Trump, birth certificate. A lesson that I hope 45 has figured out.
ruby59|1487639351|4131471 said:jaaron|1487639218|4131470 said:If someone attributed those statements to me and I had financial means I would be in every court fighting it.
It is almost impossible for a pubic figure to prove defamation--the bar is much higher for them than for ordinary citizens. The have to prove not only that it's false, but malice and damages. Plus, if politicians pursued legal action every time they were libelled, slandered or defamed, they'd clog up the courts and spend all their time doing it, so must choose to turn the other cheek. Example A Barack Obama, Donal Trump, birth certificate. A lesson that I hope 45 has figured out.
If I were her I would have at least put up a stink to show it was not true.
Now I see her mom had some antisemetic sentiments as well.
azstonie|1487634808|4131417 said:As in most human behaviors, narcissism operates along a spectrum---minimal to pathologic. There is healthy narcissism, enough to keep yourself alive and functional, and then there is pathologic narcissism, or narcissism on the malignant, or far end of the spectrum.
Narcissism - A set of behaviors characterized by a pattern of grandiosity, self-centered focus, need for admiration, self-serving attitude and a lack of empathy or consideration for others.
jaaron|1487640768|4131482 said:ruby59|1487639351|4131471 said:jaaron|1487639218|4131470 said:If someone attributed those statements to me and I had financial means I would be in every court fighting it.
It is almost impossible for a pubic figure to prove defamation--the bar is much higher for them than for ordinary citizens. The have to prove not only that it's false, but malice and damages. Plus, if politicians pursued legal action every time they were libelled, slandered or defamed, they'd clog up the courts and spend all their time doing it, so must choose to turn the other cheek. Example A Barack Obama, Donal Trump, birth certificate. A lesson that I hope 45 has figured out.
If I were her I would have at least put up a stink to show it was not true.
Now I see her mom had some antisemetic sentiments as well.
I think her not suing is a really poor way to judge truth in this instance. Common sense and any decent advisor would tell you that suing would move discussion of this from the realm of Fox News/the ten people who bought the book/Beitbart and into the mainstream public eye. Add to that the fact that she would most likely lose--having nothing to do with whether it was true or false, but based on the criteria necessary to win-- and you have a lose-lose situation.
Plus, not to be crass, but the Clintons have had a boatload of much worse, and much more easily proved as false, stuff written and said about them and have never sued. I would imagine they have a policy of not dignifying that stuff.
ruby59|1487641035|4131486 said:jaaron|1487640768|4131482 said:ruby59|1487639351|4131471 said:jaaron|1487639218|4131470 said:If someone attributed those statements to me and I had financial means I would be in every court fighting it.
It is almost impossible for a pubic figure to prove defamation--the bar is much higher for them than for ordinary citizens. The have to prove not only that it's false, but malice and damages. Plus, if politicians pursued legal action every time they were libelled, slandered or defamed, they'd clog up the courts and spend all their time doing it, so must choose to turn the other cheek. Example A Barack Obama, Donal Trump, birth certificate. A lesson that I hope 45 has figured out.
If I were her I would have at least put up a stink to show it was not true.
Now I see her mom had some antisemetic sentiments as well.
I think her not suing is a really poor way to judge truth in this instance. Common sense and any decent advisor would tell you that suing would move discussion of this from the realm of Fox News/the ten people who bought the book/Beitbart and into the mainstream public eye. Add to that the fact that she would most likely lose--having nothing to do with whether it was true or false, but based on the criteria necessary to win-- and you have a lose-lose situation.
Plus, not to be crass, but the Clintons have had a boatload of much worse, and much more easily proved as false, stuff written and said about them and have never sued. I would imagine they have a policy of not dignifying that stuff.
Well, as a Jewish woman, when I see those types of statements and no rebuttal, I become very wary.
jaaron|1487642015|4131500 said:ruby59|1487641035|4131486 said:jaaron|1487640768|4131482 said:ruby59|1487639351|4131471 said:jaaron|1487639218|4131470 said:If someone attributed those statements to me and I had financial means I would be in every court fighting it.
It is almost impossible for a pubic figure to prove defamation--the bar is much higher for them than for ordinary citizens. The have to prove not only that it's false, but malice and damages. Plus, if politicians pursued legal action every time they were libelled, slandered or defamed, they'd clog up the courts and spend all their time doing it, so must choose to turn the other cheek. Example A Barack Obama, Donal Trump, birth certificate. A lesson that I hope 45 has figured out.
If I were her I would have at least put up a stink to show it was not true.
Now I see her mom had some antisemetic sentiments as well.
I think her not suing is a really poor way to judge truth in this instance. Common sense and any decent advisor would tell you that suing would move discussion of this from the realm of Fox News/the ten people who bought the book/Beitbart and into the mainstream public eye. Add to that the fact that she would most likely lose--having nothing to do with whether it was true or false, but based on the criteria necessary to win-- and you have a lose-lose situation.
Plus, not to be crass, but the Clintons have had a boatload of much worse, and much more easily proved as false, stuff written and said about them and have never sued. I would imagine they have a policy of not dignifying that stuff.
Well, as a Jewish woman, when I see those types of statements and no rebuttal, I become very wary.
Well, Ruby, I'm jewish, too. But considering that fact that the Clintons have been accused of murder, running a pedophile ring, and giving uranium to the Russians, among numerous other things, this seems pretty far down the list.
Steve Bannon has been accused of saying equally anti-semitic things. The allegation made by his ex-wife, I don't put much credence in. But the stuff that Breitbart published under his stewardship, there's no getting away from. I'd be more worried about him, frankly. The Anti-Defamation League certainly doesn't like him much.
http://www.adl.org/sp/stephen-bannon-backgrounder/bannon-backgrounder.html
ruby59|1487633605|4131408 said:I have no idea how Hillary feels about her sister in law.
AGBF|1487642478|4131503 said:ruby59|1487633605|4131408 said:I have no idea how Hillary feels about her sister in law.
I have no idea about Secretary Clinton's sister-in-law, but I know how she feels about her daughter. She and her daughter are very, very close. She raised her daughter, who has her values. The fact that her daughter married a Jew and had children with him (and attends services with him) certainly tells me that Secretary Clinton is no anti-Semite!!! (Especially since Secretary Clinton-unlike Trump-isn't cavorting with white supremacists while not spending time with her daughter!)
Who is Marc Mezvinsky?...http://www.ibtimes.com/who-marc-mezvinsky-chelsea-clintons-husband-10-facts-about-hillarys-son-law-2395319
AGBF
ruby59|1487642861|4131511 said:AGBF|1487642478|4131503 said:ruby59|1487633605|4131408 said:I have no idea how Hillary feels about her sister in law.
I have no idea about Secretary Clinton's sister-in-law, but I know how she feels about her daughter. She and her daughter are very, very close. She raised her daughter, who has her values. The fact that her daughter married a Jew and had children with him (and attends services with him) certainly tells me that Secretary Clinton is no anti-Semite!!! (Especially since Secretary Clinton-unlike Trump-isn't cavorting with white supremacists while not spending time with her daughter!)
Who is Marc Mezvinsky?...http://www.ibtimes.com/who-marc-mezvinsky-chelsea-clintons-husband-10-facts-about-hillarys-son-law-2395319
AGBF
Yes, her daughter married a Jew, but unlike Ivanka, she did not convert to Judaism.
But again, her daughter married a Jew. Short of disowning her, Hillary had no control over it. It does not mean she is happy about it.
In my family and my husband's we both have relatives who acknowledge we married Interfaith, but they were not happy about it. They just became resigned to it.
And while researching this, comments came up that Metzger did not become involved in Clinton's campaign for some reason.