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crystalheart1

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What would cause a dimond not to sparkle or give off any fire? I was looking at a very white, clear VVS2 oval .90 ct

But it was very flat with no spark at all. Is this all in the cut?

Thanks
 
It is possibly the cut, or depending on the clarity grade, it could be inclusions or contaminents in lower clarity grades, some lighting conditions or even dirt and grease can do it. Rarely strong blue flourescence can make a diamond look milky or cloudy in some lights. Do you have any pics or more info? Thinking as you say it looks white and clear, it might be either the cut, the lighting or a combo of both possibly...
 
It could be poorly cut or it could be dirty. There could also be inclusions that might affect the sparkle. Was the stone loose or in a setting? Some settings can affect the sparkle.
 
It was loose, and I was shocked when I saw it in the shop. I looked at it through a loupe and it looked pretty clean.
It must of been the cut. It appeared you could look through to the bottom. It looked like it lacked facets. I felt bad,
it looked like it wanted to sparkle.. There was one black little speck at the very base of the stone - like the black hole..but it was tiny
 
A true VVS clarity grade will in no way have any inclusions that will affect performance, so it sounds as if the poor thing could have benefited from a bit more time and skill at the cutting wheel. You have got me feeling sorry for it now!
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It sounds like a really shallow stone.
 
Date: 7/24/2007 2:14:30 PM
Author: Hest88
It sounds like a really shallow stone.
Ditto.
 
Date: 7/24/2007 1:57:08 PM
Author: crystalheart1
It was loose, and I was shocked when I saw it in the shop. I looked at it through a loupe and it looked pretty clean.
It must of been the cut. It appeared you could look through to the bottom. It looked like it lacked facets. I felt bad,
it looked like it wanted to sparkle.. There was one black little speck at the very base of the stone - like the black hole..but it was tiny
Could have been a rose cut or some other unique cut?
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Thanks for your replys. Not a fancy cut... it was shallow - come to think of it. Poor little thing.

It really was trying to catch light...
 
Date: 7/24/2007 1:57:08 PM
Author: crystalheart1
It was loose, and I was shocked when I saw it in the shop. I looked at it through a loupe and it looked pretty clean.
It must of been the cut. It appeared you could look through to the bottom. It looked like it lacked facets. I felt bad,
it looked like it wanted to sparkle.. There was one black little speck at the very base of the stone - like the black hole..but it was tiny
Ok, this is one of the funniest, and sweetest things I''ve read in a while.
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Oh, the poor thing
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Date: 7/24/2007 2:42:36 PM
Author: crystalheart1
Thanks for your replys. Not a fancy cut... it was shallow - come to think of it. Poor little thing.

It really was trying to catch light...

Poor little diamond.
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First thing that came to my mind was cut---we''ve seen that even an S11 can be sparkley and light-catching, so usually either surface dirt or cut I would guess are your problems.
 
Maybe the lights were too bright it makes diamonds look duller - like the Diamond Dock lighting?

How lighting effects grade appearance22.jpg
 
Forgot to add - in the top row there are no lights on.
The bottom row the lights are on
 
Garry, that''s a great example of how diamonds often look like crap in direct sunlight, but fantastic in shaded light. Can you please explain why that happens? It seems if you''re in direct sunlight, a diamond should be white and sparkley but more often than not, they go dark in direct sun...E''splain...Please? Thanks!
 
Date: 7/24/2007 1:57:08 PM
Author: crystalheart1
It was loose, and I was shocked when I saw it in the shop. I looked at it through a loupe and it looked pretty clean.
It must of been the cut. It appeared you could look through to the bottom. It looked like it lacked facets. I felt bad,
it looked like it wanted to sparkle.. There was one black little speck at the very base of the stone - like the black hole..but it was tiny
The sad little oval that couldn''t! Sounds shallow to me. Do you know what the depth was?
 
Date: 8/4/2007 12:01:49 PM
Author: surfgirl
Garry, that''s a great example of how diamonds often look like crap in direct sunlight, but fantastic in shaded light. Can you please explain why that happens? It seems if you''re in direct sunlight, a diamond should be white and sparkley but more often than not, they go dark in direct sun...E''splain...Please? Thanks!
Exactly Surf Girl - the lights off is in normal ambient office type room lighting. much of what is happening is because of the way our eyes / camera adapt to the background.

You cen learn more here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/gia-diamond-dock-simple-summary.42538/ and in the associated Journal article. It was a very time consuming and expensive mistake made by a behmouth
 
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