Why diamond is not sparking???

[Seashell12]

I bought a diamond from one of the vendor of this forum. All characteristic was perfect( 1.2 Ct, I color, si1, 3 excellent, none flour)I was wearing for year, and no any sparkles.I took it to appraiser and they confirmed characteristic on GIA report. My 3 stone Kay jewelry ring sparked much better. What can be wrong? Can it be fake diamond or something else? How can i prove that it's real diamond?

 

[chrono]

How is the cut? What are the table, depth, crown and pavilion angles? Not every GIA Ex is cut well; some look a lot better than others.
Does it need a good deep cleaning?

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

If an appraiser checked out GIA-characteristics, they have automatically confirmed the stone to be a diamond. So, you do not need to worry about it possibly being a fake?

I would start by getting your diamond cleaned. Diamonds attract dirt.

If dirt is not the cause, you can start looking for other causes. If so, it worries me that you have kept the diamond for a year, without taking any action.

Live long,

 

[TC1987]

Any jewelry store has a tester that can rule out the CZ fakes.

Cut is fair to poor? Clouds in the diamond? The diamond is really dirty? Those would cause a bland appearance.

Just provide the GIA report number or post a copy of the report, and people will be glad to assist you with the analysis. Having the diamond recut might be another option. It baffles me why you would not have returned it immediately, though.

 

[valchiria]

is this?
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[Seashell12]

Valchiria, Yes, this one.

 

[chrono]

When was the last time the diamond was cleaned, I mean a really good deep cleaning (steam or ultrasonic)? My guess is that all it needs to come back to life is that. Did it not sparkle well when you first purchased it?

 

[Seashell12]

I've just went and cleaned (by myself in restroom) and it seems look better. I was confused, that both of my ring were cleaned and worn the same time, but this ring was not sparkling, and 3 stone was sparkling despite cleaning in the same time. I wear rings all the time, how often should they have been cleaned?

 

[GreenBling]

The facets near the rim of one of my diamonds looked dead no matter how often I cleaned it. Then I found out that tiny tiny dirt was trapped on the tray underneath the stone which reflected who knows how many times back on the stone. A prof clean at the jeweler's solved the problem. The diamond not just sparkles crazily it also looks one size bigger.

 

[chrono]

I would get it professionally cleaned; it is likely to have dirt trapped in there somewhere that is resistant to normal cleaning. If you don't want to invest in a ultrasonic unit, I normally soak in a jewellery cleaner, scrub with a baby toothbrush, rinse and pat dry.

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

I would get it professionally cleaned; it is likely to have dirt trapped in there somewhere that is resistant to normal cleaning. If you don't want to invest in a ultrasonic unit, I normally soak in a jewellery cleaner, scrub with a baby toothbrush, rinse and pat dry.

I agree with Chrono, have it professionally cleaned. My stone looks great when I clean it with just dish soap and a toothbrush, but it goes crazy with sparkle when I use my Crest heated ultra sonic. Stuff builds up and needs a good deep cleaning to bring it back to it's original shine. I take mine to be professionally cleaned at least twice a year, then it looks like new again!

 

[Cachette]

I've just went and cleaned (by myself in restroom) and it seems look better. I was confused, that both of my ring were cleaned and worn the same time, but this ring was not sparkling, and 3 stone was sparkling despite cleaning in the same time. I wear rings all the time, how often should they have been cleaned?

Almost everyday. But that's just me.

It looks beautiful though!

Cachette

 

[MichelleCarmen]

After you get it professionally cleaned, then buy a baby toothbrush and a small plastic bowl and soak and scrub your ring once a week. One way your ring can get dirty REALLY fast is by getting face/hand cream on it, so if you use a lot of cream/lotions, then take your ring off when putting those products on!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You can buy an inexpensive ultrasonic cleaner to clean it yourself maybe once a week. Then between those times, you can buy a jar of jewelry cleaner and let the ring soak in it in the evening or morning while you are getting ready and then brush with a very soft baby toothbrush and rinse with hot water. Diamonds need to be clean to look their best. Once a week is really the minimum to clean and some here clean daily!

Your ring is gorgeous, by the way!!!

 

[wsblue430]

Your specs look great. So just use a toothbrush and dishwashing detergent..it does the trick! ..and scrub under the diamond, the pavilion. Extra dirty, soak it. Also, after some hot steam and wipe with a soft tshirt/towel and viola!

 

[Dancing Fire]

soak it in Mr. Clean with hot water for 15 min then brush with a baby toothbrush then use a airless can sprayer to dry.

btw,you need to buy some "cleaning toys"..

 

[Luxie]

Every single time I wash my hands I give my diamonds a little rub with the soap and I always make sure I hold my rings under the running water from all angles (underneath at the pavilion) so as to rinse all of the soap off - if I don't my rings get dull with soap residue buildup. Needless to say every time I wash my hands my rings sparkle! Also, never apply lotion with ring on or at least be careful not to get any lotion on the diamonds. I'm very particular about keeping my diamonds clean - I also clean them when needed with soft brush and cleaner as stated above.

 

[kenny]

... how often should they have been cleaned?

Only when they get dirty.
Mine needs cleaning 4 or 5 times a day, but that's too much hassle so I only clean it about once a day.

Develop a cleaning regime that is quick and easy.

 

[Seashell12]

Thank you to all of you. Your advices were really helpful.

Stupid me thinking that sparkles should go through dirt.

 

[kenny]

Stupid me thinking that sparkles should go through dirt.

Actually it's more complex and serious than the light just getting a little dimmer because it must pass through dirt.

When light passes from air and into a clean diamond it changes angle some precise amount as determined by the angle of the light ray with respect to the diamond surface, and the index or refraction of diamond material.
Next when the light traveling in the diamond hits the bottom of a well cut diamond it bounces back into the diamond at a certain angle and eventually comes back out the top to your eyes.
Both of these angles change if the diamond is dirty.

So all the time and effort and expense of the well cut diamond go out the window.
Light is not sent on the intended path, back to your eyes.
A dirty well cut diamond sends some of the light out side side or the back.

Think of you and I in a dark room.
I'm holding a flashlight and you are on the other side of the room, but two people are in the middle of the room holding mirrors that are held at just the right angle so the light hits your eyes.
When the mirrors change angle the light does not hit your eyes.

That's what happens with a dirty well cut diamond.
It's more noticeable with well cut diamonds than poorly cut ones, because the later never returned as much light to your eyes even when clean.

 

[Christina...]

Stupid me thinking that sparkles should go through dirt.

Actually it's more complex and serious than the light just getting a little dimmer because it must pass through dirt.

When light passes from air and into a clean diamond it changes angle some precise amount as determined by the angle of the light ray with respect to the diamond surface, and the index or refraction of diamond material.
Next when the light traveling in the diamond hits the bottom of a well cut diamond it bounces back into the diamond at a certain angle and eventually comes back out the top to your eyes.
Both of these angles change if the diamond is dirty.

So all the time and effort and expense of the well cut diamond go out the window.
Light is not sent on the intended path, back to your eyes.
A dirty well cut diamond sends some of the light out side side or the back.

Think of you and I in a dark room.
I'm holding a flashlight and you are on the other side of the room, but two people are in the middle of the room holding mirrors that are held at just the right angle so the light hits your eyes.
When the mirrors change angle the light does not hit your eyes.

That's what happens with a dirty well cut diamond.
It's more noticeable with well cut diamonds than poorly cut ones, because the later never returned as much light to your eyes even when clean.

I hadn't considered this before. Makes complete sense now that I think about it.

 

[JuneRose]

Stupid me thinking that sparkles should go through dirt.

Actually it's more complex and serious than the light just getting a little dimmer because it must pass through dirt.

When light passes from air and into a clean diamond it changes angle some precise amount as determined by the angle of the light ray with respect to the diamond surface, and the index or refraction of diamond material.
Next when the light traveling in the diamond hits the bottom of a well cut diamond it bounces back into the diamond at a certain angle and eventually comes back out the top to your eyes.
Both of these angles change if the diamond is dirty.

So all the time and effort and expense of the well cut diamond go out the window.
Light is not sent on the intended path, back to your eyes.
A dirty well cut diamond sends some of the light out side side or the back.

Think of you and I in a dark room.
I'm holding a flashlight and you are on the other side of the room, but two people are in the middle of the room holding mirrors that are held at just the right angle so the light hits your eyes.
When the mirrors change angle the light does not hit your eyes.

That's what happens with a dirty well cut diamond.
It's more noticeable with well cut diamonds than poorly cut ones, because the later never returned as much light to your eyes even when clean.

Love this explanation Kenny!

 

[Seashell12]

That's what happens with a dirty well cut diamond.
It's more noticeable with well cut diamonds than poorly cut ones, because the later never returned as much light to your eyes even when clean.

Thank you Kenny, for explanation. So from what you said, my 3 stone ring had still sparkle even when it's dirty because it has not a good cut. Is it right?

 

[kenny]

That's what happens with a dirty well cut diamond.
It's more noticeable with well cut diamonds than poorly cut ones, because the later never returned as much light to your eyes even when clean.

Thank you Kenny, for explanation. So from what you said, my 3 stone ring had still sparkle even when it's dirty because it has not a good cut. Is it right?

Don't know.
I think the closer a cut is CENTERED on the intended bulls eye, or the more its cut places it to the left when dirt pulls it right, the more it can be dirty and still light-perform well.

Our Octavia still blows your head off with light performance even when dirty.
The designer/inventor/Daddy/WTFever KarlK is a genius!!!!!!!!

BTW, I give John Pollard credit for what I explained, about how dirty pavilions send light off-course.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

That's what happens with a dirty well cut diamond.
It's more noticeable with well cut diamonds than poorly cut ones, because the later never returned as much light to your eyes even when clean.

Thank you Kenny, for explanation. So from what you said, my 3 stone ring had still sparkle even when it's dirty because it has not a good cut. Is it right?

Don't know.
I think the closer a cut is CENTERED on the intended bulls eye, or the more its cut places it to the left when dirt pulls it right, the more it can be dirty and still light-perform well.

Our Octavia still blows your head off with light performance even when dirty.
The designer/inventor/Daddy/WTFever KarlK is a genius!!!!!!!!
BTW, I give John Pollard credit for what I explained, about how dirty pavilions send light off-course.