Whiteflash ACA on I Do Now I Don’t

[Swirl68]

I don’t know anything about I Do Now I Don’t. I can’t recall this site being discussed on PriceScope. Is there a high probability of being scamed here?

I found this ring:
https://www.idonowidont.com/diamond...-e-center-si1-95-ct-total-18k-white-gold-ri-1

It looks like it could be a good deal maybe.

Has anyone used this site before? And do you know if Whiteflash allows trade in of a stone if it’s not from the original purchaser?

 

[lovedogs]

IDNID isn't likely to allow anyone to get scammed. From what I know, they vet their stuff carefully and guarantee that the things listed are what they claim to be. No clue about trading up with WF or whether the policy transfers though.

 

[SimoneDi]

I believe that upgrade policies don’t transfer, but IDNID is a reputable site and pre-loved is still a good way to get a diamond/ring on budget.

 

[YadaYadaYada]

I bought my ten year anniversary upgrade from them and had it checked by a local appraiser and it was exactly as described.

 

[Matilda]

I think this is a great find and safe as mentioned above. However you would be getting the setting for free as WF has comparable diamonds for the selling price listed:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4027058.htm

you would also miss out on the upgrade policy if that is something you’d like. So it may be worth it to get the Aca from the vendor as the preloaded isn’t such a price cut.

 

[Swirl68]

I think this is a great find and safe as mentioned above. However you would be getting the setting for free as WF has comparable diamonds for the selling price listed:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4027058.htm

you would also miss out on the upgrade policy if that is something you’d like. So it may be worth it to get the Aca from the vendor as the preloaded isn’t such a price cut.

I have emailed the seller asking more about the setting. IDNID will add $163 to the price as well. I was hoping WF would allow the upgrade policy to transfer.

 

[bludiva]

I almost bought something through this site about a year ago. The item is sent from the seller to IDNID's gemologist, who vets it, then it is sent on to you (unless they have changed things). In my case they told me the specs didn't match the listing and my options were to cancel the sale (which I did) or to negotiate with the seller if I wanted to. I was refunded after a couple of weeks. The entire process takes a while but I was impressed with their honesty.

 

[Swirl68]

I almost bought something through this site about a year ago. The item is sent from the seller to IDNID's gemologist, who vets it, then it is sent on to you (unless they have changed things). In my case they told me the specs didn't match the listing and my options were to cancel the sale (which I did) or to negotiate with the seller if I wanted to. I was refunded after a couple of weeks. The entire process takes a while but I was impressed with their honesty.

Good to know! Thank you! The certificate is from 2010. I guess the gemologist would also report if there were any damage then.

 

[sledge]

Here is a link to the original WF listing:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2355083.htm

What made me search this out is the images shown on IDNID site don't currently match the style of the images that WF uses today. I think that's pretty obvious if you compare to the alternate stone that @Matilda suggested.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4027058.htm

The cert is dated 6/17/2010. According to his story on the IDNID website, he took 6 months picking the ring and then she broke it off a month before he was going to propose. Why would he hold onto the ring for 8+ years? The story seems fishy, although I guess you don't have to return right away. But had he done so, WF has a 70% buyback within the first year.

As far as the buyback policy, I'm pretty sure it's limited to the original purchaser. There was another thread recently about this and that seemed to be the final word.

As proved above, you can buy a stone only for the same money. It comes down to if you love that setting or not. I'm guessing that is about a $1,500 option. However, when you take into account IDNID fee, shipping fee, loss of upgrade program, resizing costs, appraisal/re-certification fees and 8 year old preloved stone is it really still a bargain?


FYI, I couldn't find the exact setting in the pictures but some similar items:

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-split-shank-diamond-engagement-ring-4494.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ffe-me3001qb-diamond-engagement-ring-5537.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ffe-me3001qb-diamond-engagement-ring-5537.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme.../allegro-in-d-diamond-engagement-ring-159.htm

 

[diamondhoarder]

I don’t know anything about I Do Now I Don’t. I can’t recall this site being discussed on PriceScope. Is there a high probability of being scamed here?

I found this ring:
https://www.idonowidont.com/diamond...-e-center-si1-95-ct-total-18k-white-gold-ri-1

It looks like it could be a good deal maybe.

Has anyone used this site before? And do you know if Whiteflash allows trade in of a stone if it’s not from the original purchaser?

Well I would be very wary about buying from that site. I was browsing there a few weeks ago and found a photo of my own ring which was posted here on PS a while ago being used on a listing for a ring of similar design but different specs (and smaller!). My ring is very definitely not up for sale!!! I contacted the site administrator to tell them and they weren't interested in doing anything about it. Last time I checked the photo and the listing was still up!

Yep. Just checked. Here it is:
https://www.idonowidont.com/diamonds/magnificent-150carats-emerald-cut-engagement-ring-gia-certified
The first 3 photos are my ring, the photo of the cert is for a different diamond, presumably the one they are selling.

 

[bludiva]

Here is a link to the original WF listing:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2355083.htm

What made me search this out is the images shown on IDNID site don't currently match the style of the images that WF uses today. I think that's pretty obvious if you compare to the alternate stone that @Matilda suggested.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4027058.htm

The cert is dated 6/17/2010. According to his story on the IDNID website, he took 6 months picking the ring and then she broke it off a month before he was going to propose. Why would he hold onto the ring for 8+ years? The story seems fishy, although I guess you don't have to return right away. But had he done so, WF has a 70% buyback within the first year.

As far as the buyback policy, I'm pretty sure it's limited to the original purchaser. There was another thread recently about this and that seemed to be the final word.

As proved above, you can buy a stone only for the same money. It comes down to if you love that setting or not. I'm guessing that is about a $1,500 option. However, when you take into account IDNID fee, shipping fee, loss of upgrade program, resizing costs, appraisal/re-certification fees and 8 year old preloved stone is it really still a bargain?


FYI, I couldn't find the exact setting in the pictures but some similar items:

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-split-shank-diamond-engagement-ring-4494.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ffe-me3001qb-diamond-engagement-ring-5537.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ffe-me3001qb-diamond-engagement-ring-5537.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme.../allegro-in-d-diamond-engagement-ring-159.htm

Good sleuthing...maybe it is already 2nd hand or the current owner bought a trade in stone. It's a shame they are not cracking down on fake listings @diamondhoarder ...i stopped checking their site ages ago after what seemed like a huge influx of overpriced dealer listings...hard to sift through and find actual p2p items...

 

[Vera W]

I don’t know anything about I Do Now I Don’t. I can’t recall this site being discussed on PriceScope. Is there a high probability of being scamed here?

I found this ring:
https://www.idonowidont.com/diamond...-e-center-si1-95-ct-total-18k-white-gold-ri-1

It looks like it could be a good deal maybe.

Has anyone used this site before? And do you know if Whiteflash allows trade in of a stone if it’s not from the original purchaser?

So sorry @Swirl68 The Whiteflash benefits are non-transferable.

 

[sledge]

So sorry @Swirl68 The Whiteflash benefits are non-transferable.

Hey @Vera W!

Would this hold true even if the buyer was willing to pay a fee to reactivate/transfer them? If so, any idea the cost of the fee?

 

[Matilda]

@Swirl68 actually I am going to come down a bit harder after reading the above comments. I do not think this is worth it. As I mentioned you lose out on upgrade and get only the setting but also the story doesn't make sense with the date on certificate. Another thing, is if the diamond was originally for sale in 2010 it would have cost less than if the same diamond was new and on sale 9 years later. So the sale price should be lower. So another reason why there is not much of a deal to be had.

 

[Vera W]

Hey @Vera W!

Would this hold true even if the buyer was willing to pay a fee to reactivate/transfer them? If so, any idea the cost of the fee?

Hello @sledge
The benefits are not transferable, no option to reactivate or fee option.

 

[Swirl68]

@Swirl68 actually I am going to come down a bit harder after reading the above comments. I do not think this is worth it. As I mentioned you lose out on upgrade and get only the setting but also the story doesn't make sense with the date on certificate. Another thing, is if the diamond was originally for sale in 2010 it would have cost less than if the same diamond was new and on sale 9 years later. So the sale price should be lower. So another reason why there is not much of a deal to be had.

Yeah, I’m going to pass. I thought IF everything checked out, he came down in price some, and Whiteflash would transfer the upgrade policy it might be worth it.

 

[Swirl68]

@sledge Thanks for all the detective work! I was going to do some sleuthing myself when I got home later tonight. Now I don’t have to!

 

[Swirl68]

So sorry @Swirl68 The Whiteflash benefits are non-transferable.

Thanks for letting me know!

 

[sledge]

Thanks for clarifying @Vera W. I anticipated your answer, but felt it needed confirmed for the OP's sake.

And no problem @Swirl68, glad to help. FYI, although I don't like the stone for the current price, etc I could be swayed to like it under different conditions. A few thoughts:

• Wire price of new comparable WF ACA = $4,391 x 50% = $2,196
• Estimated value of setting = $1,500 x 50% = $750
• Proposed offer = $2,200 + 750 = $2,950 - 200 for IDNID & shipping fees = $2,750 cash
• I would likely start an offer around $2,200 and max out at $2,750 if needed

Seller may tell you to go pound sand. And that's cool. Thing is you have all the leverage. He's trying to sell an 8+ year old ring in a setting that not everyone will like (and probably won't fit) with many preconceived astigmatism's associated with it. You can use these things plus the fact you have shipping & IDNID fees, appraisal fees, resizing fees, lack of upgrade programs, no warranty, no buyback, etc.

All the things that we said earlier are your leverage points to negotiating a better cash deal for yourself. But only if you are also okay with them and you are okay with negotiating a deal like that.