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kmajid

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I'd love to make a purchase in the next couple of days, so would love some opinions/advice from someone with a lot more experience. Curious what you think about the following diamonds overall. Happy to continue my search if you think none of them would be a great buy. Thanks in advance for your time and feedback!

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12510232 (eliminated)
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12355234
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12517790
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12510232 (eliminated)
 
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Okay, I can see from the first stone posted that you don't have the measurements to go by to get one of the better cut GIA Ex cut stones. Limit your search to the measurements below.

Table: 54-57 (or 58 )
Depth: 60-62.3
Crown angle: 34.0-35.0 (or up to 35.5 if the pav angle is 40.6)
Pavilion angle: 40-6-40.9

(None of the ones posted are within this range and will not have as excellent light return.)
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
(None of the ones posted are within this range and will not have as excellent light return.)
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Thanks for the quick response. The second and third seem really close. You don't think they're worth considering?
 
No, those are not close enough. The angles work together. So when those angles are out of range, you end up with leakage and diminished light return.
 
kmajid said:
Thanks for the quick response. The second and third seem really close. You don't think they're worth considering?
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Unfortunately close doesn't work most of the time. The angles need to be both within range and complimentary. Make sure to run all potential stones through the HCA calculator (under "tools"). If it scores over 2, reject it
 
kmajid said:
Thanks for the quick response. The second and third seem really close. You don't think they're worth considering?
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If I must pick one it would be #2. #3 is cut too deep.
 
Dancing Fire said:
If I must pick one it would be #2. #3 is cut too deep.
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Sure. If I *had* to pick one I'd pick #2, but there are tons of stones out there that are better. I think OP can find something nicer.
 
lovedogs said:
Unfortunately close doesn't work most of the time. The angles need to be both within range and complimentary. Make sure to run all potential stones through the HCA calculator (under "tools"). If it scores over 2, reject it
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Understood. Thanks!
 
Starting my search again. I would love to stay in the 1.8 zone, but may need to go outside of that. Also trying to keep the color at a minimum of an H. Below is one that fits the bill i think, i hope haha

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12382795
 
kmajid said:
Starting my search again. I would love to stay in the 1.8 zone, but may need to go outside of that. Also trying to keep the color at a minimum of an H. Below is one that fits the bill i think, i hope haha

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12382795
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Yup, MUCH better. Scores under 2 on the HCA and has angles and depth/table in our recommended range. Wish BN would provide advanced images like ASET and IS, but know they usually don't. I think this one is a solid contender.
 
lovedogs said:
Yup, MUCH better. Scores under 2 on the HCA and has angles and depth/table in our recommended range. Wish BN would provide advanced images like ASET and IS, but know they usually don't. I think this one is a solid contender.
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That's good news. At least I have a contender.
 
Dancing Fire said:
I'm not a fan of the word "knots" on my diamonds. That just me.
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The emotional rollercoaster continues haha I appreciate the feedback though. It's off to the side and seems quite small, but i certainly get where you're coming from.
 
Below are a couple of more options, although the first one is more than i'd prefer to spend.

LD03148019
LD12512603
 
Dancing Fire said:
I'm not a fan of the word "knots" on my diamonds. That just me.
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Oh dammit I didn't even see the knot on the plot (looking on my phone). Sorry! Yes, it's usually better to avoid knots if possible.
 
lovedogs said:
Oh dammit I didn't even see the knot on the plot (looking on my phone). Sorry! Yes, it's usually better to avoid knots if possible.
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haha no worries. Back to no contenders again.
 
kmajid said:
Below are a couple of more options, although the first one is more than i'd prefer to spend.

LD03148019
LD12512603
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No and no. Both score over 2 on the HCA, which means angles aren't complimentary. it will save you a lot of time and effort to search using the PS tool and make sure it only shows you stones in the angle ranges we suggested AND that score EX on the HCA
 
lovedogs said:
No and no. Both score over 2 on the HCA, which means angles aren't complimentary. it will save you a lot of time and effort to search using the PS tool and make sure it only shows you stones in the angle ranges we suggested AND that score EX on the HCA
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I see. Thanks for looking into them. I'll check the PS tool now.

Out of curiosity, the one that you initially though was ok, but not great scored under a 2, but it didn't get much love for some reason.

I'm referring to https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD12355234

In the meantime i'll take a look at the PS tool.
 
All stones mentioned in this thread, with the exception of the one with knot inclusion, are leaky under the table.
 
kmajid said:
haha no worries. Back to no contenders again.
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What is your budget you are working with?
Are you tied to using BN as a vendor?
 
flyingpig said:
All stones mentioned in this thread, with the exception of the one with knot inclusion, are leaky under the table.
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Noted. Thanks for your time and effort!
 
jp201845 said:
What is your budget you are working with?
Are you tied to using BN as a vendor?
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I'd prefer to use Blue Nile if possible, but would be open to other options. Ideal amount to spend is 15K, but can stretch to 18K for the right stone.
 
kmajid said:
I'd prefer to use Blue Nile if possible, but would be open to other options. Ideal amount to spend is 15K, but can stretch to 18K for the right stone.
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I will take a look see what I can find for you
 
kmajid said:
I'll need to get over going down a grade in either color or clarity.
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No, you don't. There are stones out there that will fall within your criteria AND be stellar cuts. Just be patient, and keep looking. :)
 
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