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Which OEC would you choose?

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Rough_Rock
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Hi ladies! I'm new here but have been learning as much as I can on this site. To be honest, antique stones still confuse me. I'm searching for an OEC that my girlfriend would love. She met with Adam yesterday and said she loved the look, character, and warmth of the antique stones. She thought all these diamonds were so beautiful when she saw them. She called me after her appointment and I could hear the excitement in her voice; Adam did a wonderful job showing her great stones. She really left Old World Diamonds with an appreciation of OECs. Now I turn to you ladies on PriceScope; your knowledge is invaluable and I'd really appreciate your opinions. My budget for the stone is $5500, though that is the top of my budget. Thanks in advance!

OEC 1
oec1_3.jpg
• Carat Weight: 1.15
• Color: L
• Clarity: VS2
• Measure: 6.96*6.78*4.07
• Cert: GIA
• Depth: 59.3
• Table: 41
• Polish: Good
• Symetry: Fair
• Girdle: vtn
• Flourescence: N/A
• Culet: Large
• Price: 5,290.00
Adam said that he can polish out the "nicks" on the outline of the stone without losing carat weight or compromising the integrity of the stone

OEC 2
oec2.jpg
• Carat Weight: 1.01
• Color: J
• Clarity: SI1
• Measure: 6.35*6.31*3.96
• Cert: GIA
• Depth: 62.4
• Table: 47
• Polish: Good
• Symetry: Fair
• Girdle: tn
• Flourescence: N/A
• Culet: Slightly Large
• Price: 5,454.00

OEC 3
oec3.jpg
• Carat Weight: 0.90
• Color: K
• Clarity: VS2
• Measure: 6.08*6.03*3.91
• Cert: GIA
• Depth: 64.5
• Table: 47
• Polish: Very Good
• Symetry: Good
• Girdle: xtn
• Flourescence: N/A
• Culet: Large
• Price: 4,388.00

If there are any other stones (from OWD or another vendor) that you think that we should look into, please let us know. Thanks again in advance! Both my girlfriend and I appreciate your help and knowledge =)
 
#2 appeals to me for a few reasons. I like it visually, the color is better, and the girdle is thin rather than extremely thin. If you buy a stone with an extremely thin girdle, you either have to set it in a bezel or have a diamond cutter work on it to make it less thin. #3 is just so much smaller than the other two.

Check Jewels by Erica Grace, too. Also, Good Old Gold has some OEC's but I am not sure if they have anything in that size range.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamondResults.php?shape=16777216&resultsColumns=402653199
 
I prefer the faceting of number 2. But the spread difference between the first and the second is HUGE. So... I'd probably go for the 7mm L. 6.3 to 7mm is a REALLY big difference.
 
I like #2 best also. The color trade off is worth the size difference to me. Especially since the faceting & cool culet of #2 appeals more also.
 
Converse|1340344235|3221659 said:
Thank you very much for your responses. I can see what you guys are saying about the faceting. What do you all think of this stone from JBEG? My girlfriend loves the pictures and the video, however she wouldn't be able to see this stone in person.
http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Loose-Diamonds/128-Old-European-Cut-Diamond/23083579_QkqZkq#!i=1857945184&k=3vK2r6D
That one looks very nice also. I'm wondering if there's some head obstruction going on though. It appears dark in the middle under the table a lot of the time. Can't tell if it would be a problem in person, under most conditions -- or just a freak of the video? Hope someone else weighs in. (The color of that stone doesn't bother me ... it does look like a K that faces up like a J, as the description states.) "L" would be too low for me for an engagement ring - even in an antique stone. I've seen some whoppers in pictures that are totally yummy -- but in my daily life, with my pinky pale skin tone ... I just know it wouldn't "work".
 
Yeah, I was just going to say obstruction and dark under the table.
 
Here's hoping you also hear from DreamerD on this, as well as Haven and Mara... and countless others with better eyes/knowledge than ME!!... but I prefer the 2nd one from OWD. I like that patterning but I do find it hard to compare to the JbEG one fairly. Perhaps if the OWD had outside/sunlight shots, that would be a fairer comparison... think they'd send you alternate photos of that stone?

I do agree with Gypsy, that the difference of a mere .7mm while it seems like nothing if you were talking length of hair or hem on a skirt, but in a diamond... that's a whack of real estate!

Happy hunting!
 
I vote #2 but the prices of all three are really high IMO.
 
If you have the time.. see the one from JbEG as there is a huge difference between looking at pictures and seeing them in real life, there is a three day review period from JbEG... I think with the older stones... from my experience with my diamond from JbEG it looks way different than it did in Grace's pictures.. no offense to Grace.. I just liked my shots better... and in real life.. it's beauitful!

Grace's pictures:
http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/181ct-Loose-Transitional-Cut/21737061_RmspDz#!i=1733026328&k=sHTgVdM

My pictures..:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-newest-member-of-the-family-from-jbeg.176511/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-newest-member-of-the-family-from-jbeg.176511/[/URL]

I'm no expert but I was told to go with what your eye likes...

Of Adam's stones... I would lean toward #1.. it is lovely but mostly because of the spread...
 
I vote for #2 also. Who is Adam by the way?
 
I vote for #2, I like the color and the faceting.

plummiecat said:
I vote for #2 also. Who is Adam by the way?

Adam is from Old World Diamonds.
 
I'm another one voting for #2. I like the spread of the first one you posted, but it appears to have a couple chips around the girdle and that would bother me, of course depending on how it was set, you may not even see them. But I prefer the faceting and shape of the second one.

edit: I just saw that adam can polish out the chips, but I still prefer #2.
 
I would choose number two from Adam. I like the faceting and the color. The JBEG one is nice but I noted the darkness too.

Bigger is nicer but not if you have to sacrifice cut quality or color IMO.
 
I'm no expert but doesn't the first one have a chip on girdle, around 1-2 o'clock? My vote is for # 2.
 
Mayk|1340366714|3221709 said:
If you have the time.. see the one from JbEG as there is a huge difference between looking at pictures and seeing them in real life, there is a three day review period from JbEG... I think with the older stones... from my experience with my diamond from JbEG it looks way different than it did in Grace's pictures.. no offense to Grace.. I just liked my shots better... and in real life.. it's beauitful!

Grace's pictures:
http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/181ct-Loose-Transitional-Cut/21737061_RmspDz#!i=1733026328&k=sHTgVdM

My pictures..:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-newest-member-of-the-family-from-jbeg.176511/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-newest-member-of-the-family-from-jbeg.176511/[/URL]

I'm no expert but I was told to go with what your eye likes...

Of Adam's stones... I would lean toward #1.. it is lovely but mostly because of the spread...

Mayk-I agree your pictures are different from the folder of pictures they took of the 1.81 loose, but they took some pretty amazing pictures of it when it was set....I stalked and drooled over your transitional when it was in the original setting-loved that ring!

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/SOLD-ITEMS-1/181ct-Old-European-Cut-Diamond/19566443_WvnPGL#!i=1532645100&k=

OP-I agree with Mayk that out of the three from Adam, I would go with the first since I really like the finger coverage it would provide :naughty:
 
I'd choose #2 from OWD.
 
I like 2 or 3.
 
I like the faceting of number 2 slightly more. However, I really like the spread of number 1. If the chips can be polished out, I would probably go with that stone.
 
2 gets my vote.
 
no. 2
 
The OWDs are tough - in #2 the camera is focused on the pav facets, and that's how we normally see diamonds photographed on here, in #3 the camera is focused on the crown and it's throwing me off, and #1 doesn't look to me like it's facing the camera exactly head-on like 2/3 are..

Ditto DS - I wouldn't want a knife-edge girdle so #3 is out.
As Gypsy says the spread difference btwn 1 and 2 is significant - that would make me lean toward #1.
I personally prefer the high crown/small table type than the JbEG shallower crown splinteryer-facet type but it looks like a nice one too ::)
 
#2 for sure!
 
Number 2 for me also.
 
If I *had* to choose one of these three, #2 is the clear winner. I much prefer its pattern to the others. It really is beautiful.

BUT - I would want it to be a bit bigger. A happy compromise between #1 and #2. I would ask Adam to keep looking for something with patterning similar to #2, but closer in dimensions to #1. He gets a load of diamonds across his desk, so for a short wait you might find something that you know is PERFECT when you first spot it. :))
 
I like the facet pattern on #2.
 
I'd do #1 or #2... #3 does not appeal to me for some reason.

I'd make sure #2 doesn't have head obstruction as well in the middle.

OWD's pics are not typically very representative, but if your GF saw them all in person what does she think ? I'd go over what I see in person vs numbers for OEC's hands down. The nicks wouldn't bug me... just have them polished out.
 
Thank you for all your replies! I think we will continue to search for her "perfect" diamond =)
 
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