Which Diamond? Help Please, to choose this week

[Legal Eagle]

Hi Guys,

I hope you''re all well.

I posted a few weeks ago about wanting to buy a Tiffany Legacy ring for my girlfriend. Well, I''ve been in store and looked at all the rings they had in stock - they had two rings a 0.38 and 0.45 that I really liked. The sales lady showed me how the engagement rings looks alongside the legacy wedding ring and, when they are sitting together, I think that anything over a 0.5 carat would be too large for my girlfriend. If you remember, she doesn''t wear any jewellery on her hands and I don''t want for her to feel uncomfortable.

The sales consultant has been able to find the following rings for me and I really hoped to get your thoughts:

0.37, G, VVS1, $7,405

0.38, F, VS1, $7,405

0.46, H, VVS1 $9,025 (this one is way out of my budget, but I''d be interested to know whether a diamond with these specs would even be good?)

0.36, H, VS1, $6,405

So, those are my options. The consultant did not give me any further details. Do any one of these seem better than the others?

Again, any tips or advice would be very welcome - this diamond buying business still hasn''t become any less confusing to me!!

 

[tyty333]

My opinion...too much money for not enough ring.

But if my BF were getting one I would go with the .36 H VS1 for $6405. There
is not enough size difference to make it worth paying the extra $1k. The VS1 should
be eye-clean so no need to pay for anything better than that. So basically you would
be paying a grand to go up 2 colors on a very small stone. I''d save that money
and use it for the wedding band.

Please come back with pics when you get it!

 

[that_someone_special]

holy crap.

Do you HAVE to buy from Tiffany?? That seems... waaaaaay over priced!!!

I''m guessing if your fiance-to-be doesn''t wear jewelry, she wont mind if it isn''t name brand? I would look at some of the PS vendors here..

At any rate, if you are dead-set on Tiffany.. I would go with the cheapest option. just my opinion.....

 

[Chantilly]

Personally, I would not go with Tiffany's myself as I like my rocks as big as possible!

But seeing as you've already decided to get a Tiffany's then from your list I would go with the 0.37 G VVS1 $7,405.

I'm a Cut then Clarity, then Color, then Carat girl myself and I would definitely pay the extra money for the better clarity from the ones you've listed.

I've had lower clarity stones that I bought when I was younger and although they are all eye clean, they don't sparkle as much as my VVS1's and IF's.

In fact between my 1 ctw 5-stone RB VS H-I diamond band (.20 ct per diamond) and my fashion diamond ring with melee pave G VVS1 diamonds (tiny pave), the fashion diamond ring sparkles alot lot more despite its diamonds being alot smaller. But this is a very personal choice as you'll find many others who value carat size over clarity so to each her/his own.

Good luck to you!



PS. I hope you don't mind me posting an alternative as to what you can get for your hard-earned money (just food for thought):

Here's a $7499.99 Platinum 950 ring I color VS2 clarity with 1 ct center and 1.35 ctw (beautiful but not a Tiffany's)

hope this picture shows up! am newbie . sigh.

okay try this link

http://www.costco.com/Browse/PopupViewer.aspx?prodid=11301968&whse=BC&cat=56574&lang=en-US

or this link

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11301968&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|108|28447|56574&N=4017520&Mo=35&pos=0&No=13&ViewAll=36&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=56574&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC34033-Cat87437&topnav=

 

[Chantilly]

oohh here''s a gorgeous stone:

link:

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11498645&whse=BC&Ne=5000009+4000000&eCat=BC|108|55926|55928&N=4017687 4294965475&Mo=7&pos=0&No=6&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC15128-Cat55926&topnav=

with GIA cert .91 ct VVS2 F color Excellent cut/Excellent polish/Excellent symmetry for $6299.99 with a IGI appraisal for $13,750.

GIA cert link:

http://www.costco.com/Images/Content/Misc/PDF/469430gia.pdf

IGI Appraisal link:

http://www.costco.com/Images/Content/Misc/PDF/469430.pdf



Any girl would love this diamond.

 

[Dreamer_D]

No offence to the PP, but I would not suggest buying a diamond ring from costco, especially for a woman who like Tiffany. Also, clarity has nothing at all to do with sparkle unless the inclusions are clouds that affect light return.

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To Legal Eagle:

If you are set of Tiffs, then the one I would choose is the 0.36, H, VS1, $6,405, simply because the others go overboard on clarity and an H will look perfectly white, especially in a bezel setting where the pavilion/sides of the diamond are hidden.

I still think that is a ridiculous price to pay for a .36ct diamond and setting... lets not forget the setting!

 

[Chantilly]

Date: 12/1/2009 6:18:48 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie






No offence to the PP, but I would not suggest buying a diamond ring from costco, especially for a woman who like Tiffany. Also, clarity has nothing at all to do with sparkle unless the inclusions are clouds that affect light return.

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To Legal Eagle:

If you are set of Tiffs, then the one I would choose is the 0.36, H, VS1, $6,405, simply because the others go overboard on clarity and an H will look perfectly white, especially in a bezel setting where the pavilion/sides of the diamond are hidden.

I still think that is a ridiculous price to pay for a .36ct diamond and setting... lets not forget the setting!

No offense taken. I personally love value and when it comes to diamonds, it's all about how sparkly and pretty each person thinks their stone is.

I didn't catch the OP stating that his Girlfriend only wants Tiffany's, my apologies. I thought perhaps he might like to see how much he can get if he doesn't go with Tiffany's, especially since he stated that his girlfriend doesn't wear much jewelry on her hands.

My DH before he proposed thought that I would want a Tiffany's ring as well (had no idea where he got this idea from.. perhaps shows like Sex and the City??). Luckily instead of surprising me, he proposed without a ring and said he wanted us to shop together for something I would wear for the rest of my life. So we ended up attending a Diamond Expo Event hosted by Costco in conjunction with GIA and bought a gorgeous 1.70 ct IF clarity F color triple Excellent diamond with GIA cert for less than $17k in 2005. I think it's worth alot more now. We're getting an appraisal on it later this month so we'll know for sure. I can't tell you how many gazillions of times I've looked at my engagment diamond set in a Tacori setting and thank the lord he didn't go for something half the size from Tiffany's. Don't get me wrong, I own many of their jewelry and in fact am wearing the 18 kt Orchid necklace and matching earrings right now as I type but I buy Tiffany's for the design not for their diamonds.

BTW I didn't say that clarity is the sole reason why my fashion diamond ring sparkles more than my 1 ctw diamond band. I am not a diamond expert and have no idea about all the reasons why it sparkles more. Just wanted to point out that Carat size is less of a factor for me when choosing diamonds. The melee are sunken into the design so technically just based on that they should sparkle less. But it just is so much whiter and sparklier than my 5 stone band that is set in a shared-prong setting and I love it! So just from my layman's perspective cut and clarity is most important to ME personally. Like I said, to each her own.



Oops, forgot to mention that I own Cartier, Chanel, VC&A, Gucci, Tiffany's, and Hermes jewelry and I still love my Costco Diamond the most. So Costco diamonds and high-end fashion house jewelry are not mutually exclusive.

 

[that_someone_special]

I don''t believe Tiffs sells diamonds that are only excellent cut... I know I''ve seen good and very good.


I agree that the cut has more to do with it and would ask to see the certs. For $6k they should be able to show you the certs!!!!!!

 

[Chantilly]

Date: 12/1/2009 7:12:40 PM
Author: swedish bean
I don''t believe Tiffs sells diamonds that are only excellent cut... I know I''ve seen good and very good.


I agree that the cut has more to do with it and would ask to see the certs. For $6k they should be able to show you the certs!!!!!!

Yup not all Tiffany''s diamonds are excellent cut. I don''t think they do GIA certs. From what the SA''s there tell me, they have their own in-house cert. I agree that they should have shown you the certs for each of the diamonds you were looking at. I have to say that the good thing about Tiffany''s is that you can always upgrade, right?

 

[that_someone_special]

I believe if they ever did want to upgrade he would need to spend over $12 on the next ring?? So an additional $6k?

 

[Chantilly]

I''m not sure about their upgrade policy. I just know that they have one. Is it really that much to upgrade? Yowza. Perhaps for the 10th or 20th anniversary?

 

[SimonG Girl]

Oh my!!! I can''t believe the prices!!! We just recently purchased my diamond, I know for a fact you can get around 1ct to 1.5ct (depending on the color, clarity, etc.) from James Allen. Also, they were wonderful to work with, very nice and honest. Take a look.....

Here is a really nice diamond, AGS 0, H, VS1, Ideal Cut for around the same price you are willing to pay for around a 0.38ct....

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1271819.asp

I understand if you MUST go with Tiffany, just wanted you to see your options before taking the plung...it''s a BIG purchase and I wouldn''t have known all the places to look if it weren''t for PS!!!

 

[iheartscience]

It's inconceivable to me that you are actually going to buy a .36 carat diamond for $6500. Are you 110% certain that your girlfriend wants this? And that anything over .5 carats will be "too big" for her? (I wore no jewelry on my hands until I got my 1.5 carat e-ring and I got comfortable with it real quick!

)And that she would still want the Tiffany ring if she knew she could get either a bigger ring for way less or even an equivalent ring for way less?

If you're 110% certain then definitely get the cheapest one.

 

[gardengloves]

I would agree with most of the people here, for that money you can get a lot of diamond.

 

[EHR2009]

Date: 12/1/2009 9:35:27 PM
Author: thing2of2
It''s inconceivable to me that you are actually going to buy a .36 carat diamond for $6500. Are you 110% certain that your girlfriend wants this? And that anything over .5 carats will be ''too big'' for her? (I wore no jewelry on my hands until I got my 1.5 carat e-ring and I got comfortable with it real quick!

)And that she would still want the Tiffany ring if she knew she could get either a bigger ring for way less or even an equivalent ring for way less?


If you''re 110% certain then definitely get the cheapest one.

I agree. I wouldn''t assume that she wouldn''t want a larger diamond just because she doesn''t currently wear any jewelry. Is there a way you could ask her if she would rather have the Tiffany name or a (much) larger diamond? Good luck with everything!

 

[that_someone_special]

You could always propose with NO ring or a plain band and have her help you pick out the stone????????


And let me add--- I DO know someone that has a HUGE huge huge huge TIFF & Co ring. They have money to throw around. They seriously wouldn't have anything better to do with their money than to buy name brand things. So when they got her ring, it was like, "Wow, huge ring. Good for them!" I wasn't worried about their non-exsistant budget.

With you, I saw that you previously said you had a $4-$6k budget... and I really believe you could get so much MORE for that huge chunk of change you are willing to spend. Either, bigger size or higher color, or.... all of the above.

 

[gardengloves]

Please, I implore you, check these threads, see what you can do with a major stone cutter for this money. After all is said and done, a lady wants a good size diamond. Believe me, I know....

 

[LGK]

Date: 12/1/2009 10:45:43 PM
Author: EHR2009

Date: 12/1/2009 9:35:27 PM
Author: thing2of2
It''s inconceivable to me that you are actually going to buy a .36 carat diamond for $6500. Are you 110% certain that your girlfriend wants this? And that anything over .5 carats will be ''too big'' for her? (I wore no jewelry on my hands until I got my 1.5 carat e-ring and I got comfortable with it real quick!

)And that she would still want the Tiffany ring if she knew she could get either a bigger ring for way less or even an equivalent ring for way less?


If you''re 110% certain then definitely get the cheapest one.

I agree. I wouldn''t assume that she wouldn''t want a larger diamond just because she doesn''t currently wear any jewelry. Is there a way you could ask her if she would rather have the Tiffany name or a (much) larger diamond? Good luck with everything!

Yeah, unless you''ve actually heard it from her that she prefers under a half carat, don''t assume anything just because she doesn''t wear jewelry right now. Your budget is excellent and (please don''t take offence to this!) I think you''re kinda throwing it away at those prices, and if I were your GF I''d much prefer you spend a heck of a lot less, or else get a much, much bigger stone, and go with a replica from somewhere else. I''ve got nothing against Tiffany''s, but holy COW those are some high prices for some small stones. Unless you''ve heard her say she couldn''t live without exactly a Tiff Legacy, I wouldn''t do it.

Surprises are overrated IMO. Either just ask her or do a surprise engagement and THEN pick out the ring together. If you must surprise her and have a complete ring, make sure you can return it and accept that she might want to, and if you go with Tiffany''s make sure she knows she could have a much, much bigger stone in a very similar setting for the same price. She loves you- she''ll be happy whatever you do, and thriilled to be engaged, but you want her to love her ring too!

I also am not a huge fan of the Legacy cut, especially in small sizes. I saw a 1/3ish ct Legacy when I was in Vegas and 1. it''s a deep cut so it looked small for the weight and 2. it wasn''t terribly sparkly in the small size, not like a RB or even a more typical cushion cut would be. I found that cut looked *much* nicer in larger sizes, like over a carat.

For what it''s worth, a girl gets very used to a larger diamond on her hand reallllly easy. I wore my original 0.20ish ct antique ring for 6 or 7 years, and adjusted just fine to my 3.55 ct antique diamond, after my first ring fell apart.

 

[gailrmv]

Totally agree... those are some BIG prices for not so big diamonds. I'd much rather have the Vatche Princess Grace setting with a round brilliant or cushion stone. Do a search for Angeleyez and you can see her thread with that setting - it's amazing! It would be a much bigger stone for the same budget. But that's me. Of the options listed I'd go with the last one for $6405 as long as it looked good to me in person. I prefer VS2 or SI1 clarity though.

 

[CBL]

I know it must get really frustrating posting your ideas on this board and having us all be so resistant...but I''m with the majority who advises you to look elsewhere and get something equally lovely and MUCH more reasonable. I adore Tiffany stuff and have numerous of their silver pieces. That said, if I had the budget for a big Tiffany diamond ring I would certainly not hesitate to go elsewhere. I think it''s really sweet that you want to do this for your girlfriend and that you care so much about what she likes. But I have a sneaking suspicion that, in a battle between the Tiffany name and a much bigger rock, the much bigger rock is always going to win. 0.36 carats is very, very small, and if she is anything like the rest of us, she will probably end up wishing she had a little more sparkle to show off on that finger-especially considering what you spent on the ring. My 1 carat diamond seemed pretty big on my smallish finger when I first got it, but these days I''m wishing it was just the teeniest bit bigger...and I am very active and work with my hands, so I can tell you that with size, we adapt.

I really believe that she would appreciate the sentiment if you told her that you wanted her to have exactly what she truly desires--but that she deserves a better diamond for that budget!! Whiteflash, who are awesome, have a beautiful Legacy-esque setting; with a 0.7 carat or so diamond it would be under budget, stunning, and still quite dainty. Lots of other places have similar settings as well.

If you have truly made up your mind, then I understand...but seriously, even as a Tiffany lover (and I do love the Legacy--and have tried it on in store several times), I just think that for this very important purchase there are better options.

 

[gardengloves]

Why not post this in the Rocky Talk forum, and let that crew show you what you can get for your very significant budget. The expertise on that forum is impressive. You are an amazing guy, a real keeper for your lucky lady. I would respectfully suggest talking over the options with her, making her a part of this choice. A diamond is a secret source of delight for a lady, even in jeans on a hiking trail, having a coffee with her laptop, the most unaffected woman reveals in her stone. See what other options there are for something that will be with her, and speak to her, every day...

Congratulations on your love, and the adventure ahead of you.

 

[waterlilly]

Hi Legal Eagle,

Wow, I can't believe the mark up on Tiff's diamonds. Please - if she isn't dead-set on a Tiff ring, please check some of the diamond vendors referenced on here. You can get a gorgeous stone 3x-4x the size for the same price. Trust me - size ABSOLUTELY matters. That being said, of course do NOT just go by size alone, the other C's are equally as importanat for getting something that will take her breath away. There are plenty of low profile settings for people that are active or use their hands a lot or are not used to wearing rings. Check the main thread with all the pictures of different rings, it will show you some really beautiful and elegant settings and stones that will knock your socks off!

If those Tiff stones are in your budget, you will have no problem getting a stunning ring that isn't marked up for no reason.

Maybe just stick with a Tiff wedding band?? That will be the ring you use in your wedding ceremony - very significant and special, right?

 

[mimistar]

LE-

I''ve been on these boards for a couple months now and I haven''t been as compelled to reply to a post as I am right now. So compelled, that I JUST created an account for your thread

I am a HUGE Tiffany lover. Huge. Like, I have more Tiffany jewelry than I could wish for--great quality, design and brand. In fact, all the ladies in my family have lots of Tiffany jewelry. You get the idea.

But when it comes down to an engagement ring, a store like Tiffany (Harry Winston, Cartier, DeBeers etc) is NOT really a store for the budget-minded folk, like myself (and yourself, from what your posts say). You won''t get the biggest bang for your buck (as you see from your most recent visit).

And coming from a person who is IN LOVE with a Harry Winston ring, I must say, I would never want my BF to pay for an engagement ring from a high end jeweler. I am one of those girls that loves to show off her designers items and who tries to dress to the 9''s. So I understand if you think your GF wants to show off her "Tiffany ring" to all the ladies in her circle. And if you get her a Tiffany ring, she will get that opportunity. But as catty as girls are (and we all have it in us) they will act impressed to her face, but in their minds, they will think that all YOU could afford was a very small diamond from Tiffany. They would be WAY more impressed when she shows them a Legacy-inspired 1 carat (or close to one carat) diamond ring that would blow a small Tiffany ring out of the water in terms of size. Because as other posters have said, in ENGAGEMENT ring, size DOES matter. Maybe not on RHR or on earrings or other jewelry.

Bottom line, if she LOVES Tiffany''s, then she clearly is into that whole "who''s ring is better" deal with her girlfriends. And her bigger ring from a reputable jeweler will be more impressive to her friends than a smaller ring from Tiffany.

I really hope you reconsider your options. If you were on here telling us that budget didn''t matter and that you didn''t have a limit, this discussion would be going in a different direction. If you''re a budget-minded BF, stay away from Tiffany---it''s just not for us!

I really hope my post doesn''t come off rude because I am trying to give you helpful insight. I think you are an amazing BF who is really just trying to get your GF what she wants. I have told my BF how much I love HW and how amazing I think they are. But I also am always sure to say "but I would never want a ring from there because we could get way better/bigger for a fraction of the cost."

Also, if you say she doesn''t wear a lot of jewelry, then get her a thin TIFFANY eternity wedding band and get her a bigger engagement ring that she can wear only for special occasions. That way she gets the best of both!

Hope this helps!

P.S. I''ve seen GORGEOUS 0.36 carat rings here! There is NOTHING wrong with a smaller diamond ring (like the ones you mentioned) but given the fact that your budget is a VERY good one, then you should try and stetch that as much as you can.)

 

[Chantilly]

Date: 12/3/2009 1:18:29 PM
Author: mimistar

LE-

I''ve been on these boards for a couple months now and I haven''t been as compelled to reply to a post as I am right now. So compelled, that I JUST created an account for your thread

I am a HUGE Tiffany lover. Huge. Like, I have more Tiffany jewelry than I could wish for--great quality, design and brand. In fact, all the ladies in my family have lots of Tiffany jewelry. You get the idea.

But when it comes down to an engagement ring, a store like Tiffany (Harry Winston, Cartier, DeBeers etc) is NOT really a store for the budget-minded folk, like myself (and yourself, from what your posts say). You won''t get the biggest bang for your buck (as you see from your most recent visit).

And coming from a person who is IN LOVE with a Harry Winston ring, I must say, I would never want my BF to pay for an engagement ring from a high end jeweler. I am one of those girls that loves to show off her designers items and who tries to dress to the 9''s. So I understand if you think your GF wants to show off her ''Tiffany ring'' to all the ladies in her circle. And if you get her a Tiffany ring, she will get that opportunity. But as catty as girls are (and we all have it in us) they will act impressed to her face, but in their minds, they will think that all YOU could afford was a very small diamond from Tiffany. They would be WAY more impressed when she shows them a Legacy-inspired 1 carat (or close to one carat) diamond ring that would blow a small Tiffany ring out of the water in terms of size. Because as other posters have said, in ENGAGEMENT ring, size DOES matter. Maybe not on RHR or on earrings or other jewelry.

Bottom line, if she LOVES Tiffany''s, then she clearly is into that whole ''who''s ring is better'' deal with her girlfriends. And her bigger ring from a reputable jeweler will be more impressive to her friends than a smaller ring from Tiffany.

I really hope you reconsider your options. If you were on here telling us that budget didn''t matter and that you didn''t have a limit, this discussion would be going in a different direction. If you''re a budget-minded BF, stay away from Tiffany---it''s just not for us!

I really hope my post doesn''t come off rude because I am trying to give you helpful insight. I think you are an amazing BF who is really just trying to get your GF what she wants. I have told my BF how much I love HW and how amazing I think they are. But I also am always sure to say ''but I would never want a ring from there because we could get way better/bigger for a fraction of the cost.''

Also, if you say she doesn''t wear a lot of jewelry, then get her a thin TIFFANY eternity wedding band and get her a bigger engagement ring that she can wear only for special occasions. That way she gets the best of both!

Hope this helps!

P.S. I''ve seen GORGEOUS 0.36 carat rings here! There is NOTHING wrong with a smaller diamond ring (like the ones you mentioned) but given the fact that your budget is a VERY good one, then you should try and stetch that as much as you can.)

OMGosh Mimistar! Can not agree with you more.

I love name brand jewelry as well but at the end of the day all diamonds whether sold by Tiffany''s, Cartier, Harry Winston, Fred Leighton, Costco, GOG, WF, all come from the same place... the ground! LOL so get her the biggest rock you can afford!


Even Juliet agrees; "that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet"

 

[gardengloves]

Date: 12/3/2009 1:18:29 PM
Author: mimistar

LE-

I''ve been on these boards for a couple months now and I haven''t been as compelled to reply to a post as I am right now. So compelled, that I JUST created an account for your thread

I am a HUGE Tiffany lover. Huge. Like, I have more Tiffany jewelry than I could wish for--great quality, design and brand. In fact, all the ladies in my family have lots of Tiffany jewelry. You get the idea.

But when it comes down to an engagement ring, a store like Tiffany (Harry Winston, Cartier, DeBeers etc) is NOT really a store for the budget-minded folk, like myself (and yourself, from what your posts say). You won''t get the biggest bang for your buck (as you see from your most recent visit).

And coming from a person who is IN LOVE with a Harry Winston ring, I must say, I would never want my BF to pay for an engagement ring from a high end jeweler. I am one of those girls that loves to show off her designers items and who tries to dress to the 9''s. So I understand if you think your GF wants to show off her ''Tiffany ring'' to all the ladies in her circle. And if you get her a Tiffany ring, she will get that opportunity. But as catty as girls are (and we all have it in us) they will act impressed to her face, but in their minds, they will think that all YOU could afford was a very small diamond from Tiffany. They would be WAY more impressed when she shows them a Legacy-inspired 1 carat (or close to one carat) diamond ring that would blow a small Tiffany ring out of the water in terms of size. Because as other posters have said, in ENGAGEMENT ring, size DOES matter. Maybe not on RHR or on earrings or other jewelry.

Bottom line, if she LOVES Tiffany''s, then she clearly is into that whole ''who''s ring is better'' deal with her girlfriends. And her bigger ring from a reputable jeweler will be more impressive to her friends than a smaller ring from Tiffany.

I really hope you reconsider your options. If you were on here telling us that budget didn''t matter and that you didn''t have a limit, this discussion would be going in a different direction. If you''re a budget-minded BF, stay away from Tiffany---it''s just not for us!

I really hope my post doesn''t come off rude because I am trying to give you helpful insight. I think you are an amazing BF who is really just trying to get your GF what she wants. I have told my BF how much I love HW and how amazing I think they are. But I also am always sure to say ''but I would never want a ring from there because we could get way better/bigger for a fraction of the cost.''

Also, if you say she doesn''t wear a lot of jewelry, then get her a thin TIFFANY eternity wedding band and get her a bigger engagement ring that she can wear only for special occasions. That way she gets the best of both!


Hope this helps!


P.S. I''ve seen GORGEOUS 0.36 carat rings here! There is NOTHING wrong with a smaller diamond ring (like the ones you mentioned) but given the fact that your budget is a VERY good one, then you should try and stetch that as much as you can.)

Well said- you nailed it...

 

[AprilBaby]

I agree with all the rest. You have a LOVELY budget that will be wasted on a Tiffany diamond. Look up the price of a .36 ideal cut diamond and see how much you are getting ripped off on a non ideal stone. Go for a Tiffany inspired ring from another vendor. If she wants .36, fine, but pay what it is worth, not the big mark-up.