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It has the most potential because the depth is larger than the table. (this table<depth thing isn''t a rule, but, again, a good guideline.) And it doesn''t have a very thick girdle.

Lesser make: every diamond is "destined" for a certain market. Some markets are medium cutting and nothing special. Some markets are D/E/F FL-VVS2. Other markets are GIA Ex sym and polish with yucky proportions, because people are buying paper. There are grades "excellent" and "very good" before "good," so you see that "good" is actually the on the third rung.

The 2A/B categories refers to the AGA charts to which you linked.

The Blue Nile stone you linked has no report posted...what happened, did they lose it?

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Date: 6/3/2006 7:18:10 PM
Author: JulieN
JPW, here you go!


1.5 I VVS2 (for the clarity snob in you
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) http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00489599&filter_id=0

1.55 I VVS2 http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00905432&filter_id=0

WOW!! Thanks JulieN!!! You found EVERYTHING I was looking for (would be nice if it were an H color, but hey, sometimes you CAN''T have it all
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. Now I have $1,000 left for the actual wedding ring itself... I can get a 14k-18k yellow solitaire gold for less than $600... right?

By the way, on BOTH links, it gives me 2 prices... one being Bank wire price. What is that? And how do I buy using bank wire? It''s cheaper... is there any disadvantages TO ME by paying that way? It shows that it''s cheaper to buy that way, so I don''t see WHY I can''t buy that way.

Oh and another thing... can I request pictures for that diamond just like from jamesallen?
 
Date: 6/7/2006 1:39:07 AM
Author: JPWRana

Date: 6/3/2006 7:18:10 PM
Author: JulieN
JPW, here you go!


1.5 I VVS2 (for the clarity snob in you
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) http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00489599&filter_id=0

1.55 I VVS2 http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00905432&filter_id=0

WOW!! Thanks JulieN!!! You found EVERYTHING I was looking for (would be nice if it were an H color, but hey, sometimes you CAN''T have it all
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. Now I have $1,000 left for the actual wedding ring itself... I can get a 14k-18k yellow solitaire gold for less than $600... right?

By the way, on BOTH links, it gives me 2 prices... one being Bank wire price. What is that? And how do I buy using bank wire? It''s cheaper... is there any disadvantages TO ME by paying that way? It shows that it''s cheaper to buy that way, so I don''t see WHY I can''t buy that way.

Oh and another thing... can I request pictures for that diamond just like from jamesallen?
Yes...gold solitaire about 2-300.

Call BN to see about arranging a wire transfer. The disadvantages: it costs like 20 or 30 dollars depending on your bank...and do you get frequent flier (flyer??) miles or cashback from your credit card, then you don''t get that.

No, they won''t give you pictures.

One thing that would decide between the two for me is if one of them is a low I or a high I.
 
Oh yeah... and another thing... is it worth buying an ideal scope?!?! The diamonds on blue nile say they have a 30-day money back guarantee... I have never bought anything that expensive before (im still farely young), and I hope my girlfriend will love it!!

She said that she saw @ Robins Brothers some J and I color rings, and that the difference is big in their color.
 
Date: 6/7/2006 1:43:26 AM
Author: JulieN
Date: 6/7/2006 1:39:07 AM

Author: JPWRana


Date: 6/3/2006 7:18:10 PM

Author: JulieN

JPW, here you go!



1.5 I VVS2 (for the clarity snob in you
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) http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00489599&filter_id=0


1.55 I VVS2 http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00905432&filter_id=0


WOW!! Thanks JulieN!!! You found EVERYTHING I was looking for (would be nice if it were an H color, but hey, sometimes you CAN''T have it all
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. Now I have $1,000 left for the actual wedding ring itself... I can get a 14k-18k yellow solitaire gold for less than $600... right?


By the way, on BOTH links, it gives me 2 prices... one being Bank wire price. What is that? And how do I buy using bank wire? It''s cheaper... is there any disadvantages TO ME by paying that way? It shows that it''s cheaper to buy that way, so I don''t see WHY I can''t buy that way.


Oh and another thing... can I request pictures for that diamond just like from jamesallen?
Yes...gold solitaire about 2-300.


Call BN to see about arranging a wire transfer. The disadvantages: it costs like 20 or 30 dollars depending on your bank...and do you get frequent flier (flyer??) miles or cashback from your credit card, then you don''t get that.


No, they won''t give you pictures.


One thing that would decide between the two for me is if one of them is a low I or a high I.


Yeah, my credit union told me a wire transfer is $15... but I would save like $150, so I still end up saving $$$. Why would I get frequent flier miles if I wire money from my (savings? or checking?) account?

Low I? High I? You mean there''s different levels of I color?!?! I thought it was simple D-M.
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If you can't find out which one is whiter...I'd go with the 1.5

Did she say I color was ok, though?

If you plan on buying diamonds in the future, then YES to the Ideal Scope.

You would lose any flier miles you get from your credit card.
 
Date: 6/7/2006 1:51:47 AM
Author: JulieN
If you can''t find out which one is whiter...I''d go with the 1.5

Did she say I color was ok, though?

If you plan on buying diamonds in the future, then YES to the Ideal Scope.

You would lose any flier miles you get from your credit card.
She said that J color looked MUCH yellower than I color (we''ll... not MUCH, but she can tell the difference from the naked eye from about 3 feet away). I still don''t get this low and high I?

Why would you prefer the 1.5 over the 1.55? The difference is only like less than $300 for an Ideal. Is there something that I''m missing? Is the 1.5 have better dimensions?!?!?
 
the 1.5 is a TINY bit bigger for a about 275 less, if that helps.
 
Date: 6/7/2006 2:15:06 AM
Author: JulieN
the 1.5 is a TINY bit bigger for a about 275 less, if that helps.
So let me get this straight... the 1.5 is bigger than the 1.55?!?!?! I thought the bigger the carat size, the bigger the rock.
 
The carat weight is determined by weighing the stone on a scale. The dimensions are actual measurements taken: width and depth.
 
So then how is the 1.5 bigger than the 1.55?!?!?!
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1.50 dimensions are 6.34 x 6.20 x 4.61 mm
1.55 dimensions are 6.28 x 6.23 x 4.72 mm

buying by carat weight alone does not guaratanee the biggest diamond. you need to look at the dimensions as well.
 
Date: 6/7/2006 11:27:21 AM
Author: belle
1.50 dimensions are 6.34 x 6.20 x 4.61 mm

1.55 dimensions are 6.28 x 6.23 x 4.72 mm


buying by carat weight alone does not guaratanee the biggest diamond. you need to look at the dimensions as well.

Which dimensions are they in order?!?!? Depth, table, and height?!?!
 
length x width x depth. table is shown as a percentage and is not listed in the dimensions.
 
I got such a ring with 1.53 ct, Princess cut, H-VS2, we paid 8,000 (maybe 8,500, my Honey is out of town so I can not ask him). I''m so happy with my ring, it''s exactly what I dremt on. The diamond is so nice and sparkly, it''s just perfect ring. I get compliments all the time.
Anyways it''s from our family Jeweler. He is great and you can be sure to get the most beautiful ring for your money.
Let me know if you want his phone #.
 
Date: 6/7/2006 11:27:21 AM
Author: belle
1.50 dimensions are 6.34 x 6.20 x 4.61 mm

1.55 dimensions are 6.28 x 6.23 x 4.72 mm


buying by carat weight alone does not guaratanee the biggest diamond. you need to look at the dimensions as well.

exactly! and dont the dimensions from the BOTTOM diamond look bigger? you have bigger width and depth.
 
Date: 6/13/2006 1:32:55 AM
Author: JPWRana


Date: 6/7/2006 11:27:21 AM
Author: belle
1.50 dimensions are 6.34 x 6.20 x 4.61 mm

1.55 dimensions are 6.28 x 6.23 x 4.72 mm


buying by carat weight alone does not guaratanee the biggest diamond. you need to look at the dimensions as well.

exactly! and dont the dimensions from the BOTTOM diamond look bigger? you have bigger width and depth.

No. See the depth is going to be hidden. So you want less devoted to it (while still having enough for a good cut). You are never talking about depth when you say that one diamond has larger spread than another.

Comparing the dimensions: 6.34 v 6.28 is a good difference between the two stones in terms of length. BUT in terms of width 6.20 v 6.23 the difference is negligible. That's why she is saying that the 1.50 diamond is bigger. Because you are losing carat weight in the depth. That's not a good thing.
 
Date: 6/13/2006 1:32:55 AM
Author: JPWRana

exactly! and dont the dimensions from the BOTTOM diamond look bigger? you have bigger width and depth.
6.34mm*6.20mm=39.31 mm^2 surface area
6.28mm*6.23mm=39.12 mm^2
 
I guess I would be remiss if I didn't post stones that match your specifications and could save you money, and since I'm not lovin' that 45 CA on the 1.5 BN stone.

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24623.html
http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24624.html
http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24627.html
http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24628.html

Only the third one has the certificate up and some pictures.

ETA: if the links don't work, just go to the home page and there's AGS-0 princesses on the left.
 
Date: 6/13/2006 2:06:52 AM
Author: JulieN
I guess I would be remiss if I didn''t post stones that match your specifications and could save you money, and since I''m not lovin'' that 45 CA on the 1.5 BN stone.


http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24623.html

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24624.html

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24627.html

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/24628.html


Only the third one has the certificate up and some pictures.


ETA: if the links don''t work, just go to the home page and there''s AGS-0 princesses on the left.

Where can I find out if this seller (Excel Diamonds) is a good place to buy diamonds from? I think I saved up enough now for one from there, but I don''t want to buy from them if the place is unreliable. You guys already saved me once from buying frozen spit from an unreliable seller.
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They have quality hearts and arrows stones. There have been people here who have bought settings there (they sell the tiffany reproduction), and I''m sure some have bought diamonds. Have you done a search on this site for Excel or SuperbCert? I haven''t seen any problems mentioned since I started coming here in January.
 
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