what is wrong with this stone?

[dgf]

i am looking to purchase a diamond and my girlfriend had looked at a 1.25 carat si2 I at macys and they wanted $8g for it. i started checking out all this stuff online and found one on abazias that is an si2 H 2.01 carat but i dont know anything about these certificates and stuff. anyway the thing says

Shape: Round
Cut Grade: N/A
Carat weight: 2.01
Color: H
Clarity: SI2

Depth %: 0
Table %: 0
Symmetry: N/A
Polish: N/A
Girdle: -
Fluorescence: N/A
Measurements: N/A


should i be wary of all these N/A ''s????

all of the certificates say egl or israel, but this says n/a


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=28970194

 

[researcher]

Vendors like Abazias sell stones "sight unseen". These are list stones, so the vendors will not always have the numbers. This makes it hard for customers as you can''t really buy a stone without knowing at least the numbers.

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[researcher]

BTW, you should stick with GIA and AGS certificates (AGS is the best, BTW).

 

[Lorelei]

Welcome

It is quite likely this diamond doesn't have a certificate. You really need all the numbers to assess it. It is best not to buy an uncertified diamond, but I suppose there are buyers for them, you will probably find that the price will reflect the diamond not having a cert.

Get in touch with Abazias to ask if this is a certed diamond or not. Hope this helps.

 

[diagem]

Date: 3/8/2006 5:00:27 AM
Author: researcher
BTW, you should stick with GIA and AGS certificates (AGS is the best, BTW).

Researcher,

I think it is an unfair comment, to point out to the "best" certificates...
Lets agree that it could be the best for you, and not the best for me....


We are talking about Gemological labratories arent we? and all these labs, including "AGS" are based on opinions.

 

[researcher]

Date: 3/8/2006 10:30:10 AM
Author: DiaGem

Date: 3/8/2006 5:00:27 AM

Author: researcher

BTW, you should stick with GIA and AGS certificates (AGS is the best, BTW).

Researcher,


I think it is an unfair comment, to point out to the ''best'' certificates...

Lets agree that it could be the best for you, and not the best for me....



We are talking about Gemological labratories arent we? and all these labs, including ''AGS'' are based on opinions.

I don''t think it''s an unfair comment--sorry. I guess if you prefer I will change my statement to the "most valuable, most accurate" certificates instead of using the word "best".

Can you go with another lab? Yes. You may even find a bargain! But, you can''t be sure that a stone graded by EGL or IGI or whatever would be graded the same as it would if graded by AGS or GIA (despite the fact that GIA is getting more lax). And, stones graded by the AGS and GIA ARE more valuable. In fact, many of the PS vendors who offer trade up policies will only accept AGS and GIA stones for upgrading.

I don''t mean to hurt your feelings and am sorry if I did, but honestly all my time here on PS has taught me that no diamond cutter is going to send his/her stone off for a certificate with a company like EGL when the stone will get an AGS-0 rating.

 

[oldminer]

We ought to keep in mind that close to 98% of diamonds used in engagement rings are not cut to Ideal proportions. This is primarily a function of a free supply and demand driven market. People decide to allow cut quality to be one of the several compromises they make in getting to a diamond of overall size, color and clarity shapoe and cut which suits their budget.

Overall total price is much more important to most people than the exact nature of the "cut". Here, on Pricescope, cut is of considerable importance, but this is a very narrow segment of the overall diamond engagement ring business.

Laboratories are quite capable of grading diamonds. We know from our experience and our published small sample study that labs have differing approaches, but the market is very wise in the pricing of diamonds as they actually are, not as the lab graded them. In fact, Garry Holloway has pointed out instances where EGL diamonds were better values than similar diamonds graded by the GIA. Dealers often say "One must buy the diamond and not the paper" This is difficult for consumers, but there is some truth in it.

A diamond being sold by a department store without any grading specs is a dubious value. You MUST know more to compare it to anything else. If you want a big diamond without any gemological rating, then it is very chancy.

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 3/8/2006 4:14:16 PM
Author: oldminer

We ought to keep in mind that close to 98% of diamonds used in engagement rings are not cut to Ideal proportions. This is primarily a function of a free supply and demand driven market. People decide to allow cut quality to be one of the several compromises they make in getting to a diamond of overall size, color and clarity shapoe and cut which suits their budget.

Overall total price is much more important to most people than the exact nature of the 'cut'. Here, on Pricescope, cut is of considerable importance, but this is a very narrow segment of the overall diamond engagement ring business...

Dave's right, but that is because consumers in the mainstream are given plenty of education about carat weight, color and clarity but not so much about cut. The decision to compromise on cut is easier when very little information about it (compared to what people are exposed to here) is put forward.

When made aware and educated a consumer's priorities often shift, and cut becomes the focal point. Even away from PS.

 

[dgf]

well, i wound up getting a 1.52 si2 H IDEAL cut from union diamond. does $5100 sound fair?

 

[ChooChoo]

That sounds like a GREAT price. Congratulations! Let us know how you like it!