What is this grey color???

[peppermintpatty]

Is this grey coming from grey under tones or a bad cut?

 

[peppermintpatty]

This is the diamond. Thanks!

 

[Bron357]

It’s part “extinction” and part body tone.
an emerald cut under any light source with have “facets on” and ”facets off”. It’s a more noticeable effect in emerald cuts than say a RB.
Likewise body tone, it’s an L graded diamond, shows more in an emerald cut.

 

[Bron357]

And in contrast to a RB when the light hits a long facet you get this effect.

 

[peppermintpatty]

Thank you Bron357!!! The table is 65 and the depth is 66. Idk what to do... I already traded my old diamond in for this one. I can only trade at the jewelry store I bought it at. I also already paid to have them tweak my current setting that I love to fit this stone. It sparkles like crazy. I have not seen it in the setting, but I have seen pictures. I still see grey I was hoping I wouldn’t I’m embarrassed to say!

 

[peppermintpatty]

Anyone else have anything to add? I leave in the morning to go out of state to pick up my ring.

 

[Siamese Kitty]

Lighting makes it so hard to be sure. I'm no expert and have little experience with step cuts, but like PP I also suspect it's in part due to body tone. It does have a bit of gray from what I'm seeing on my monitor. I have an antique ring that was appraised as an O-P light gray and it reminds me of that. The downside is it looks a little dark sometimes. The upside is it almost never looks tinted. I was literally shocked by the appraisal and thought it was near colorless. (was a family ring handed down)

If indeed that is the case, I would just want to be sure I paid a fair price since I believe that gray toned stones trade lower than one on the yellow spectrum. I always find that crazy since the browns and grays in my opinion almost always hide their grade better! That said, do you have an option to have the stone appraised before you fully commit so it can be "mind-clean" for you? I imagine this is a pretty significant purchase.

At the end of the day, you have to love it, though. FWIW, I think it's stunning. A true dream stone and size! Good luck.

 

[junebug17]

Maybe they are just bad pics? Or camera reflection. Did you see the stone in person when you initially purchased it? Maybe you should hold off judgement until you see it in person. My OEC shows tint in pics but I just don't see it IRL. What are your options if you are not happy with it?

 

[peppermintpatty]

Lighting makes it so hard to be sure. I'm no expert and have little experience with step cuts, but like PP I also suspect it's in part due to body tone. It does have a bit of gray from what I'm seeing on my monitor. I have an antique ring that was appraised as an O-P light gray and it reminds me of that. The downside is it looks a little dark sometimes. The upside is it almost never looks tinted. I was literally shocked by the appraisal and thought it was near colorless. (was a family ring handed down)

If indeed that is the case, I would just want to be sure I paid a fair price since I believe that gray toned stones trade lower than one on the yellow spectrum. I always find that crazy since the browns and grays in my opinion almost always hide their grade better! That said, do you have an option to have the stone appraised before you fully commit so it can be "mind-clean" for you? I imagine this is a pretty significant purchase.

At the end of the day, you have to love it, though. FWIW, I think it's stunning. A true dream stone and size! Good luck.

Thank you Siamese Kitty ! I paid 25k which I think is a steal. The grey I see looks almost like some one went over it a silver/grey marker. It sparkles like crazy and I don’t see any black or dark. It is only on the East and west sides, not the center or the north and south. I don’t mind the grey if it wasn’t so concentrated in those areas. I’m thrilled I don’t see yellow! It is a GIA cert diamond. L and VS1. Thank you for making me feel better I haven’t seen it set yet. I’m hoping that will be my deciding factor. Thanks again SK!

 

[peppermintpatty]

Maybe they are just bad pics? Or camera reflection. Did you see the stone in person when you initially purchased it? Maybe you should hold off judgement until you see it in person. My OEC shows tint in pics but I just don't see it IRL. What are your options if you are not happy with it?

Thank you Junebug17! No, I’ve seen the loose diamond in person. Tomorrow I will see it in the setting- not sure if that will matter??? If I’m not happy, idk if I can get my diamond I traded in back or not. It’s an emerald cut too. GIA cert I IF. It’s over 2 carats but measures up like a 3 carat. I have no idea if that has sold or not. If it has, I’ll be picking out a different diamond. I can see the grey in person. I’ve just never seen anything like it before! I just still can’t get over how much it sparkles! Thanks again!

 

[peppermintpatty]

I wouldn’t have thought that the depth being 66 would be too deep???

 

[Siamese Kitty]

Thank you Siamese Kitty ! I paid 25k which I think is a steal. The grey I see looks almost like some one went over it a silver/grey marker. It sparkles like crazy and I don’t see any black or dark. It is only on the East and west sides, not the center or the north and south. I don’t mind the grey if it wasn’t so concentrated in those areas. I’m thrilled I don’t see yellow! It is a GIA cert diamond. L and VS1. Thank you for making me feel better I haven’t seen it set yet. I’m hoping that will be my deciding factor. Thanks again SK!

Good luck! I hope you love it and please come back with more photos! That is a lot of stone for 25k, I would think?! I would just see if you could take it to an appraiser if you feel the slightest bit on the fence. Sometimes it just helps to have professional reassurance.

 

[peppermintpatty]

Good luck! I hope you love it and please come back with more photos! That is a lot of stone for 25k, I would think?! I would just see if you could take it to an appraiser if you feel the slightest bit on the fence. Sometimes it just helps to have professional reassurance.

Thank you Siamese Kitty That is a whole lot of stone for 25k. I have a 60 day return time frame, I think taking it to an appraiser is an excellent idea! Thank you so much!

 

[junebug17]

@peppermintpatty, sending lots of good wishes and I really hope you love it! Please let us know how it goes.

 

[Dreamer_D]

It's an L color stone (not a bad thing, my own diamond is that color), so the diamond will have body color. It won't be colorless. And diamonds in that color range usually pick up the tint in lighting and reflected off walls much more than others. See what you think in person. Look at it in a variety of lighting environments. Don't worry about how it looks in pictures, all that matters is how it looks in person and whether the appearance appeals to you. If you can see the grey in person, then it might explain the relatively lower cost for the size bc my understanding is that grey body tone commands a lower price that brown of yellow.

 

[peppermintpatty]

@peppermintpatty, sending lots of good wishes and I really hope you love it! Please let us know how it goes.

Awww thank you Junebug17 I will. I appreciate all of your help!

 

[peppermintpatty]

It's an L color stone (not a bad thing, my own diamond is that color), so the diamond will have body color. It won't be colorless. And diamonds in that color range usually pick up the tint in lighting and reflected off walls much more than others. See what you think in person. Look at it in a variety of lighting environments. Don't worry about how it looks in pictures, all that matters is how it looks in person and whether the appearance appeals to you. If you can see the grey in person, then it might explain the relatively lower cost for the size bc my understanding is that grey body tone commands a lower price that brown of yellow.

Thank you Dreamer _ dachsie! I have seen it in person. Loose. It will be set when I go tomorrow. I sat with it in a room of all windows. I still see the grey and in the jewelry store I could too. I’m sure the grey body tone is a factor in the price. I’ve read different order to which of those 3 body tones are most to least favorite. I actually would like the grey if I had a choice. I just feel like it’s so much more grey on the outer edges. I’m hoping I feel strongly once I see it tomorrow. One way or the other! So I’m sure what to do. Thanks again!

 

[peppermintpatty]

@peppermintpatty, sending lots of good wishes and I really hope you love it! Please let us know how it goes.

Thank you junebug17! I will be sure to keep you posted and if I go with the diamond I will post pictures. Thank you!

 

[whitewave]

Clean it.

Sometimes when stones are great deals, there is a reason though

 

[distracts]

I wouldn’t have thought that the depth being 66 would be too deep???

You can't really measure fancies by the stats that way. 66% is perfectly within normal ranges for an emerald cut - perhaps even a bit more shallow than usual. If you sort on Blue Nile, out of nearly 7000 emerald cuts, about 2k are below 66% depth and about 5k are above 66% depth, just as a ballpark measure.

 

[AV_]

The camera found faint yellow & shows it as lowly saturated color - gray.

 

[peppermintpatty]

Clean it.

Sometimes when stones are great deals, there is a reason though

Thanks Whitewave. It was clean. Those are my hands at the jewelry store. Freshly cleaned. It hasn’t been in my possession to clean it since then to clean it, but it was clean.

 

[peppermintpatty]

You can't really measure fancies by the stats that way. 66% is perfectly within normal ranges for an emerald cut - perhaps even a bit more shallow than usual. If you sort on Blue Nile, out of nearly 7000 emerald cuts, about 2k are below 66% depth and about 5k are above 66% depth, just as a ballpark measure.

Thank you distracts! I know there is a range for the depth, I just thought if I was in the range on the chart it shows here on Pricescope for both Depth and table that I would be safe so to speak. That’s interesting to know about Blue Nile. Thanks again!

 

[peppermintpatty]

The camera found faint yellow & shows it as lowly saturated color - gray.

Thanks AV! Unfortunately it wasn’t only the camera that saw it that way, I did too. Those are my hands in the photos. Thank you!

 

[AV_]

There is darkness from the diamond's cut in the pictures, this happens to any diamond of any color [the arrows of the H&A rounds are such dark zones] Frankly, I am hardly ever seeing fancy color diamonds with this feature & it is obviously no good for color in anything [in colored stones this is sometimes called extinction, but no one I know uses this word for diamonds]

The color in the macro pictures is a beautiful yellow - on my screen, at least. A long emerald is something I can fall for too, so I might be toooooooooooooo forgiving.

The darkness is supposed to show up when you shade the stone. Else, the same facets must be the brightest. There is no way for me to tell how severe the effect is & whether you can live with it ,( I'd see 'optics' & play around with the stone, but I have fallen in love with 'optical effects' a long time now! [it is a serious affliction, laugh/cry!]

[English is confusing! dark/light refer both to light reflections and to solid colors; I call the inbetween shaded or gray, respectively, but I never really read the dictionary for this obscure point! - rambling]

 

[whitewave]

Thanks Whitewave. It was clean. Those are my hands at the jewelry store. Freshly cleaned. It hasn’t been in my possession to clean it since then to clean it, but it was clean.

Ok, I said that because once, my asscher turned grey. I looped it and it was disgusting.

It’s not body color because that would be indicated on the GIA report since it’s an L color.

 

[whitewave]

So I think what AV is saying is all the facets are turned off at the same time.

Ideally in a step cut, you want them to light up at various points, so what you see in the photo is what the diamond looks like when no facets are lit up.

Play with it in bright light, spot light, bathroom light, low light, daylight etc and see if you can figure out what is going on.

 

[peppermintpatty]

There is darkness from the diamond's cut in the pictures, this happens to any diamond of any color [the arrows of the H&A rounds are such dark zones] Frankly, I am hardly ever seeing fancy color diamonds with this feature & it is obviously no good for color in anything [in colored stones this is sometimes called extinction, but no one I know uses this word for diamonds]

The color in the macro pictures is a beautiful yellow - on my screen, at least. A long emerald is something I can fall for too, so I might be toooooooooooooo forgiving.

The darkness is supposed to show up when you shade the stone. Else, the same facets must be the brightest. There is no way for me to tell how severe the effect is & whether you can live with it ,( I'd see 'optics' & play around with the stone, but I have fallen in love with 'optical effects' a long time now! [it is a serious affliction, laugh/cry!]

[English is confusing! dark/light refer both to light reflections and to solid colors; I call the inbetween shaded or gray, respectively, but I never really read the dictionary for this obscure point! - rambling]

Thank you AV! I’m about to go to the jewelry store, quick question. Would a recut get rid of the extinction? Thanks again!!!

 

[AV_]

I would not guess this.

 

[peppermintpatty]

Thank all of you who helped me!!!! These are just some quick pictures leaving the jewelry store! It is gorgeous!!!! I don’t see any grey!!! I can’t believe it!! Thank you again!!!!