What do you think of this 2ct RB trade up potential?

[melz]

Please let me say in advance, I greatly your feedback on this stone, and I know that it will be limited because all I have is a GIA report. I have an idealscope I will use to my best ability when the diamond is shipped to the store for review. But, because I need to work with this store in order to "trade up," this is all the information I have at the moment with which to assess the diamond. The store is not going to provide any additional reporting such as an idealscope, an aset, etc.

GIA graded
2.08 ct
I color
Ex cut
SI2 clarity (the woman i am working with has not seen the stone so i will have to determine whether it is eye clean for myself. No info on the nature of the inclusions)

HCA = 1.2

Depth: 61.3%
Table: 59%
Crown Angle: 33.0 degrees
Crown Height: 13.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0 degrees
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star Length: 55%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Slightly thick, faceted (4.5%)
Culet: None

Polish: very good
Symmetry: Excellent
Flour: Faint

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/11/2009 3:36:15 PM
Author:Melz
Please let me say in advance, I greatly your feedback on this stone, and I know that it will be limited because all I have is a GIA report. I have an idealscope I will use to my best ability when the diamond is shipped to the store for review. But, because I need to work with this store in order to 'trade up,' this is all the information I have at the moment with which to assess the diamond. The store is not going to provide any additional reporting such as an idealscope, an aset, etc.

GIA graded
2.08 ct
I color
Ex cut
SI2 clarity (the woman i am working with has not seen the stone so i will have to determine whether it is eye clean for myself. No info on the nature of the inclusions)

HCA = 1.2

Depth: 61.3%
Table: 59%
Crown Angle: 33.0 degrees
Crown Height: 13.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0 degrees
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star Length: 55%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Slightly thick, faceted (4.5%)
Culet: None

Polish: very good
Symmetry: Excellent
Flour: Faint

Hi Melz

It looks like a well cut diamond as far as can be told from images, this diamond will probably show enhanced brilliance due to the slightly larger table and crown angle, it would be useful to know what the grade making inclusions for the SI2 grade are if you could find out please? These will be listed below the clarity plot on the grading report.

What is the diameter in MM too?

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks good from the numbers.

 

[melz]

Hi Lorelei! So happy to have your imput, and Stone-Cold as well.

The measurements are 8.16 x 8.19 x 5.01 mm.

hmmm enhanced brilliance. that sounds like a good thing. is it? I always thought that a larger table was not a good thing.

I only have the GIA report number and am pulling up the stats that way, no plot for the inclusions but I have just emailed the saleswoman to pdf me the actual report when she can.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/11/2009 4:06:39 PM
Author: Melz
Hi Lorelei! So happy to have your imput, and Stone-Cold as well.

The measurements are 8.16 x 8.19 x 5.01 mm.

hmmm enhanced brilliance. that sounds like a good thing. is it? I always thought that a larger table was not a good thing.

I only have the GIA report number and am pulling up the stats that way, no plot for the inclusions but I have just emailed the saleswoman to pdf me the actual report when she can.

Table size is fine Melz, it is only slightly larger and combined with the crown angle which is also only slightly shallower, the diamond might show more of a tendency toward brilliance due to these - but it still could be a lovely diamond. Post the info on the report when you get it, the main concern here are grade making clouds as these can sometimes have a negative effect in SI grades such as causing a loss of brilliance, in such cases you would want an appraiser to evaluate the diamond to be on the safe side. Also check the diamond out away from any bright store lights to make sure it is eyeclean to your standards, inclusions can pop out in some lights more than others.

 

[melz]

Sorry for being thick, but I want to maximize brilliance, right? So wouldn''t a tendency toward brilliance be a good thing? I''m confused by the below sentence, which seems to say that the diamond being more brilliant could negatively impact it.

"... the diamond might show more of a tendency toward brilliance due to these - but it still could be a lovely diamond."

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/11/2009 4:22:07 PM
Author: Melz
Sorry for being thick, but I want to maximize brilliance, right? So wouldn't a tendency toward brilliance be a good thing? I'm confused by the below sentence, which seems to say that the diamond being more brilliant could negatively impact it.

'... the diamond might show more of a tendency toward brilliance due to these - but it still could be a lovely diamond.'

I probably didn't explain well! Firstly due to the proportions, I meant the diamond might show more brilliance than fire due to the table size and crown angle, more white light versus coloured light but this is only speculation as we won't know for sure without looking at the diamond.

Concerning the clouds, in SI clarities - if clouds set the SI2 grade in this case and are noted on the clarity plot, this can interfere with the brilliance the diamond shows, they can cause a loss of transparency and affect the sparkle. So if this diamond does have clouds as grade makers then it would be best to have an appraiser inspect the stone to see if the clouds are having a negative effect.

 

[melz]

Excellent, thank you. White light vs. colored light sounds like it might be a personal preference. I'll go do some reading up on it.

Love your Christmas decorations!

ETA: for anyone interested, a basic summary:

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/brill.asp

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/11/2009 4:34:56 PM
Author: Melz
Excellent, thank you. White light vs. colored light sounds like it might be a personal preference. I''ll go do some reading up on it.

Love your Christmas decorations!

ETA: for anyone interested, a basic summary:

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/brill.asp

Glad to help and thanks for the compliment on my Xmas tree, I use it every year!

 

[Dreamer_D]

It looks good!

When you inspect it for eye cleanliness, be sure to look at it in a variety of lighting environments to make sure you cannot see the inlcusions (to your satisfaction).