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Brilliant cut, 1.78 carats, G color, VS2 clarity. HRD certified, very good/very good with no fluorescence. Dimensions are 7.82-7.86 x 4.71. Price is $18,600. Any recommendations would be highly appreciated. Thanks so much!
 
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There isn''t enough information here to make a responsible comment on the quality/price.

You should get depth, table, crown/pavilion angles and girdle data at minimum. These things will help determine the make of the stone, which greatly affects its value.
 
thank you. i will get this info and post back ASAP
 
here is the info i have on this stone. any help would be much appreciated.

1.78 carats, G color, VS2 clarity, 7.82-7.86mm, no fluorescence, HRD certified

Girdle 3.5% Medium faceted
Culet pointed
Table width 60%
cr height 13.5%
Pav depth 43%
Proportions Very good
Finish grade Very good

price is $19,000. what do you guys think?
 
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Date: 3/20/2008 11:17:42 AM
Author: mj23
here is the info i have on this stone. any help would be much appreciated.

1.78 carats, G color, VS2 clarity, 7.82-7.86mm, no fluorescence, HRD certified

Girdle 3.5% Medium faceted
Culet pointed
Table width 60%
cr height 13.5%
Pav depth 43%
Proportions Very good
Finish grade Very good

price is $19,000. what do you guys think?

Just my .02 cents but I think this is large. Perhaps looking more white/less fire?
Everyone usually suggests to run it through HCA on this site here.

Hopefully the diamond gurus will respond soon.
 
i''m just hoping to get the best possible stone for around $20k. i''ve been looking for a while and i want to purchase the diamond now even if i''m not going to propose for another several months since prices are going up like crazy. i know that i want at least G color and VS2 clarity. ideally i wanted something in the 1.90 carat range, but it''s becoming quite difficult to find.
 
i''m looking to get this today and hope to get some helpful opinions from everyone
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I prefer a smaller table, 54-57%, so I think 60% is a little large.

If you can stretch the budget a little bit and go to an H color, which is still incredibly white, there is a 2.038 H VS2 A Cut Above available at Whiteflash for about $25K with the PS discount: http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-418636.htm. This is the one I'd go for.

There's also a beautiful 1.71 G VS1 for about $17.4K with the PS discount: http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-283314.htm.
 
Date: 3/20/2008 2:49:19 PM
Author: Kim N
I prefer a smaller table, 54-57%, so I think 60% is a little large.

If you can stretch the budget a little bit and go to an H color, which is still incredibly white, there is a 2.038 H VS2 A Cut Above available at Whiteflash for about $25K with the PS discount: http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-418636.htm. This is the one I''d go for.

There''s also a beautiful 1.71 G VS1 for about $17.4K with the PS discount: http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-283314.htm.

I agree. I think that you can definitely do better than the one that you''re looking at. I wouldn''t be quite so hasty - a quick online search of online vendors shows that there''s quite a bit to choose from. Good Old Gold also has a couple within the ranges that you''re looking for.
 
i really appreciate everyone''s advice so far. i don''t want to be hasty in my decision, but this particular vendor got a great diamond for my brother and is telling me that diamond prices are increasing by the week. i don''t know how much of this is truth and how much of it is that the vendor wants $20k.
 
Date: 3/20/2008 3:26:39 PM
Author: mj23
i really appreciate everyone''s advice so far. i don''t want to be hasty in my decision, but this particular vendor got a great diamond for my brother and is telling me that diamond prices are increasing by the week. i don''t know how much of this is truth and how much of it is that the vendor wants $20k.
I think you just hit the nail on the head. To boot, I think that he''s trying to get your $20k for a diamond that is less than what your $20k would get elsewhere. I would be wary.
 
personally, I''d stick to a stone that is and AGS000 or a GIA ex/ex...true, prices are going up but there isn''t a huge reason to rush.

many pricscopers prefer these specs:

table: 54-57%

depth: 60-62%

crown angle: 34-35

pavilion angle: 40.6 to 41.0

girdle: thin, medium, or slightly thick
 
I agree with the others who said you can probably do better. There are several 2+ ct. ACA stones in your pricerange that I would personally prefer. Or save yourself some $ and snatch up the 1.81 ACA H/SI1.
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personally i am not a big fan of SI stones. after spending so much money, it hurts to see visible inclusions with the naked eye - but that''s just me.
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Date: 3/20/2008 3:55:56 PM
Author: mj23
personally i am not a big fan of SI stones. after spending so much money, it hurts to see visible inclusions with the naked eye - but that's just me.
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I completely understand if you want to stay at a VS for mindclean purposes, but just b/c a stone is an SI doesn't mean the inclusions will be visable. I know because I own one
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in case you don't believe me, check out the SI stones in this thread:



https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/lets-post-our-si-stones-here.36489/
 
i agree - some SI stones look like VS stones, and some look terrible. that was part of the deal with my current vendor - he''d be able to pick out a stone with inclusions in places where the prongs would be (hence making it very difficult to find inclusions even with magnification).
 
Date: 3/20/2008 4:08:20 PM
Author: mj23
i agree - some SI stones look like VS stones, and some look terrible. that was part of the deal with my current vendor - he''d be able to pick out a stone with inclusions in places where the prongs would be (hence making it very difficult to find inclusions even with magnification).

that''s great. the key is finding white inclusions which can be easily hidden by the cut of the stone, you don''t necessarily have to find one''s and then hide them although folks do this. one thing so great about the Pricescope vendors is they really have a tight definition of eyeclean and will be totally honest as to what is and isn''t visable. my stone has only white inclusions and they aren''t near where a prong is placed, so it really is possible.
 
I understand not being comfortable with an SI. I''d owned both eye clean and NOT eye clean SI2''s and there certainly is a wide range in the SI department.
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But if your only reason for not considering and SI stone is for fear that there is no such thing as an eye clean SI, try to keep an open mind, there are some out there for sure. But if you are just not comfortable with SI whatsoever I can understand.
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Date: 3/20/2008 4:08:20 PM
Author: mj23
i agree - some SI stones look like VS stones, and some look terrible. that was part of the deal with my current vendor - he''d be able to pick out a stone with inclusions in places where the prongs would be (hence making it very difficult to find inclusions even with magnification).


An excellently cut stone will hide inclusions better than a sub-par cut. I agree with the previous poster that said that she would stick with a stone that falls within the AGS0/GIAEx range (use the HCA cut advisor tool to weed out poor performers), and that has excellent polish and symmetry.

Although I own a VS2, I would far prefer an ideal cut eye-clean SI1 than a lesser cut VS2.

FYI I have seen many SI1''s and even SI2''s that are eye-clean.

Good luck!
 
This one is slightly out of the 20k range but it is bigger and has a higher clarity :)

1.85ct G VS1 Round H&A

I am all for anything is the VS-SI range as long as it is eyeclean :)
 
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