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Date: 3/26/2008 6:01:35 PM
Author: KCCutie
Okay I''m no expert but if 5.5 faces up about the same as a 1ct what about this one?

http://engagementringsdirect.com/loose_detail.php/session/e6727f914de2f4d69da176b99ceb5d5f/id/14632473/sz/150

totally in your range....what do the experts say???
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Could be nice. Don''t know with out pics. And crown height information. It is a LITTLE smaller than the GOG one in terms of spread. Whereas the GOG one is RIGHT at 5.5 by 5.5

GOG one has crown height listed and has EX/EX polish and symmetry instead of VG/VG, plus GOG is known for their asschers so I would lean that way since there are no pics of EITHER of them at this point. But it doesn''t hurt to have it called in from ERD as it is less expensive.
 
Do you guys see any asscher with LOTS of potential (and 1 carat) in the ERD site?

I am considering increasing my budget up to 15%.

Is Mark (ERD) the best for this task (considering GOG will be higher)? I am a bit disappointed he suggested me a diamond with incursions on it : (

Thank you much!
 
Date: 3/26/2008 7:01:14 PM
Author: AlexSilva
Do you guys see any asscher with LOTS of potential (and 1 carat) in the ERD site?

I am considering increasing my budget up to 15%.

Is Mark (ERD) the best for this task (considering GOG will be higher)? I am a bit disappointed he suggested me a diamond with incursions on it : (

Thank you much!
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All diamonds have inclusions. Even IF may have surface inclusions. I''m actually IMPRESSED that he found you a needle in a haystack... an EYECLEAN SI step cut. Actually he did a great job, and didn''t let you down at all.

I have a VS1 and it''s got inclusions. You just can''t see them. ANd if you can''t see them, and you hold it next to an eyeclean SI... then what does it matter? Your pocket book is just happier.

I linked you to the thread with my recommended specs. I would just serach through Mark''s Premium Asschers and see if you see any that fit those specs.
 
Diamonds have inclusions, it is just a matter of how big and visible they are. Given your budget constraints, you are actually looking for a diamond with inclusions, just such that they are not visible under normal viewing. The inclusion is visible in the magnified photo, but might not be visible in real life (that is generally what is meant by "eye-clean").

Thus I think your disappointment with ERD is a little misplaced. You are asking for a lot, and he has found a workable option. As others have said, something has to give. You need to put more $$$ on the table if you want "no inclusions" in a kickin, 1ct + asscher of H color or better.

ETA: Ah gypsy beat me to it. Please, your woman wants an asscher, so get her an asscher. If you have flexibility in budget, then up your budget. This is a lifetime purchase. If you have no flexibility, save up some more or think about compromises. Or both.
 
PLEASE don''t get me wrong. Mark has been TERRIFIC with me. He has been VERY patient and has managed all my requests with outstanding professionalism. I am just trying to get your help to make sure I don''t make a mistake to save $500. Apparently, based on your comments, the first stone from ERD was not the best one. So, I am counting on your help (and Mark’s) to make the best selection possible. I hope you understand my position.
 

Gypsy, I will do a research on the ERD premium based on your suggestions. Thanks!


Do you guys think an increase of up to $500 can buy a considerably better diamond? Or, should I go for the 3K eye clean from Mark (and stick to the original budget)?


Finally, I want to let you know, I am very happy with Mark''s openess to build me the setting the way my fiancé liked...so he gets BIG points on this issue as well.


AS
 
Alex,

Here''s the breakdown.

Call GOG about that $4K diamond. It has the most potential. UP your budget. Get your woman her ring.
 
Date: 3/26/2008 7:29:27 PM
Author: AlexSilva
PLEASE don't get me wrong. Mark has been TERRIFIC with me. He has been VERY patient and has managed all my requests with outstanding professionalism. I am just trying to get your help to make sure I don't make a mistake to save $500. Apparently, based on your comments, the first stone from ERD was not the best one. So, I am counting on your help (and Mark’s) to make the best selection possible. I hope you understand my position.
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It may be one of the "best ones" out there that meets your criteria. It is not one of the best asschers we have seen on ps, but you are putting significant financial constraints on your search. That is the point of much of the advice you have been given.

When GoodOldGold woln't work with you because your constraints are too tight, that tells you something. They are known for finding good asschers, and they are generally willing to work with budgets. If they woln't work with you, its because they don't think they will be able to meet your constraints to their standards. Yes you might pay a bit more for their overhead workup, but you get it back in the quality of the diamond that comes out of their search. And for asschers in particular, it is worth it.

You may need to add $500 to the budget AND drop the weight to 0.9 - 1.0 AND have some luck.
 

I understand your position Gypsy and I appreciate it. I did speak with Jonathan already and his ring is in consideration (but if you add the setting this will be way over budget). So, I will wait to see what Marks comes up with. Honestly, as you know, I did no want to spend that much.


So, I guess the best I can do now is to compare the two (GOG and ERD) and pull the trigger (after getting the experts opinion).

AS
 
"You may need to add $500 to the budget AND drop the weight to 0.9 - 1.0 AND have some luck"

Cara, I''m totally sold on this idea...I will increase the budget a bit and will hope the LUCK contributes. So, I will be able to to find what she wants this week.
 
Date: 3/26/2008 6:15:40 PM
Author: AlexSilva
Mark does not have the crown height of this stone.

Is there anyway to get it? I don''t think he has Sarin...
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if he has the stone in hand an estimated crown height is easy too do.
 

Wich one do you think has more potential as per GIA certificates below (#1 or #2)?


I understand pictures are NECESSARY, so I am working to get them ASAP.


I will post as soon as I get them. Thank you!


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Here is #2 GIA.

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Date: 3/27/2008 9:46:39 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 3/27/2008 9:03:12 PM
Author: AlexSilva


In addition, please let me know which one is your favorite on the links below:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3875/ (#1A)

OR

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3874/ (#2A)

Thank you again.
AS
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both of those are kicken cut wise but I just dont trust si asschers.
*shrug* they might be ok....

I cant read the numbers on the reports for the erd stones.
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I heard Jon say in one of his videos on GOG that they only buy SI stones that are completely eye clean, so there one''s probably are unless you have a more stringent criteria than Jon or he has slacked on these
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DD
 
Date: 3/27/2008 10:16:10 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

I heard Jon say in one of his videos on GOG that they only buy SI stones that are completely eye clean, so there one''s probably are unless you have a more stringent criteria than Jon or he has slacked on these
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DD
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buy for stock yes eyeclean, but bring in on memo not necessarily.
Which you cant tell which it is by looking at the website.
The only way too tell is too call and talk too him about it.
Id likely have him take a poll of his staff and see if anyone can see them.
 
Here are the ERD GIA details:
#1
Measurements: 5.68 X 5.46 X 3.68mm
1.03 carat
H VS2
Very Good
Very Good
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
Table: 57%
Depth:67.4%
Thick to Very Thick
Comments: Surface Graining is not shown

#2
Measurements: 5.46 X 5.31 X 3.78mm
1.01 carat
H VS2
Very Good
Good
Fluorescence: Faint
Table: 56%
Depth: 71.2%
Thick to Very Thick
Comments:Clouds are not shown
 
I also found this on the pricescope search:

1.06 H VS1 67.8% 65% GIA med-thk no ex vg no 5.76*5.75*3.90 $3298 $3496

Do you guys see potential? Or the table put this out of the competition?

Let me know.
AS
 
Date: 3/27/2008 11:11:30 PM
Author: AlexSilva
Here are the ERD GIA details:
#1
Measurements: 5.68 X 5.46 X 3.68mm
1.03 carat
H VS2
Very Good
Very Good
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
Table: 57%
Depth:67.4%
Thick to Very Thick
Comments: Surface Graining is not shown

#2
Measurements: 5.46 X 5.31 X 3.78mm
1.01 carat
H VS2
Very Good
Good
Fluorescence: Faint
Table: 56%
Depth: 71.2%
Thick to Very Thick
Comments:Clouds are not shown
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pics would be the next step, second is a little deep but with the small table id consider it, next step is pics.
 
Date: 3/27/2008 11:40:42 PM
Author: AlexSilva
I also found this on the pricescope search:

1.06 H VS1 67.8% 65% GIA med-thk no ex vg no 5.76*5.75*3.90 $3298 $3496

Do you guys see potential? Or the table put this out of the competition?

Let me know.
AS
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borderline need pics.
 
Date: 3/27/2008 11:52:30 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 3/27/2008 11:40:42 PM
Author: AlexSilva
I also found this on the pricescope search:

1.06 H VS1 67.8% 65% GIA med-thk no ex vg no 5.76*5.75*3.90 $3298 $3496

Do you guys see potential? Or the table put this out of the competition?

Let me know.
AS
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borderline need pics.
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Ditto! Pics always help
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