WF Aramis setting

[jerbop]

I was looking at WF''s picture gallery and noticed the setting below:

This setting is called "Aramis," and I love the fact that it has smooth sides, without the "prongy" look of some of the other shared-prong eternity rings that I have seen on PS. Do any of you have rings similar to this one? Is it simply pave? What would be the pros and cons of getting a setting like this one. FYI, I am looking to eventually set a RB stone in a setting like this.

Thanks for your help!

 

[valeria101]

Date: 12/9/2005 2:48:29 PM
Author:jerbop


Is it simply pave?

Yes. Since it is a single row of diamonds held together by beads of metal, this is also called ''shared bead set''.



What would be the pros and cons of getting a setting like this one.

Pro - the diamonds set on the shank do not touch neighboring rings - so neither party gets damaged. It is a tried and true, classical setting style. The ''prongy'' as you call it, less so, as far as I know.
Con - it is a custom ring. If this means it may take longer to make or anything, only WF knows.

I don''t have one. The comments above are inspired by mixed reviews about the other style that have been mentioned around here and a follow-up chat with my jeweler (who has nothing to do with Pricescope, unfortunately).

My 2c

 

[jerbop]

So, overall, this shared bead setting would be preferable to the shared prong setting because you don''t run the risk of damaging either of the rings? It is also seems to have a "clean" look from the sides. Are there any other pictures out there of similar rings?

 

[valeria101]

Date: 12/9/2005 3:06:12 PM
Author: jerbop


So, overall, this shared bead setting would be preferable to the shared prong setting because you don't run the risk of damaging either of the rings?

as much as I can tell... Chances are both can be safe, but I do not know what it takes for the shared prong to be a safe bet.



Are there any other pictures out there of similar rings?

Most designer rings are done in this way - with some style of pave on the shank, not an eternity-style band with a head set on top. E.g. the 'petite' settings by Michael. B. (see at Pearlman's www.pearlmansjewelers'com ) with one row of diamonds etc.

I wish a bench jeweler would pick this question up. I don't want to 'discriminate' against the eternity-style rings just because I don't know any better

 

[mrssparkles]

Can anyone tell what does the under-side look like? What about the side view? Are there also paves surrounding the solitaire diamond?

 

[onedrop]

I am curious about this setting too, as it is one of favorite WF settings. And I have the same questions as mrssparkles. Sadly though, I cannot offer any insight.

 

[Lynn B]

It would be nice to see more views of this ring. It is gorgeous. Of course, that big ol'' HONKIN'' diamond isn''t hurting it''s curb-appeal any, either!!!!

 

[indecisive]

"Since it is a single row of diamonds held together by beads of metal, this is also called ''shared bead set''."

Since the beads are there to hold it in place would the diamonds be more secure than a regular pave setting?

 

[skphotoimages]

I think bluenile carries one like that. here is the matching band.

 

[skphotoimages]

Here is the set, both are only 2mm wide. They are pave, but there is that extra rim of gold on the outside, so maybe you wouldn't worry as much about the pave. here's a link

bluenilelink

 

[valeria101]

This and related questions kept coming up... maybe these help. Or at least I might have succeeded to make such outrageous mistakes that someone would take pity to correct them

Date: 12/9/2005 9:49:53 PM
Author: indecisive
'Since it is a single row of diamonds held together by beads of metal, this is also called 'shared bead set'.'

Since the beads are there to hold it in place would the diamonds be more secure than a regular pave setting?

Hm... I am not sure what the big difference between 'bead set' and pave is. The first term is used when there is just one row of diamonds. Otherwise, it looks like the two are about the same deal - diamonds stuck in small holes with the girdle flush to the metal and pressed down by tiny bits of metal 'shaved' onto the edge of the girdle. There are other ways to do it, but this is what the names refer to originally, as far as I know.

The story runs like this:

Bead Setting and part two

& Pave


If interested, at the end of the page there are some pretty good shopping tips.

 

[valeria101]

Since refraining from posting pictures is rather hard....



Those articles reffer to handmade pave / bead setting (drawing attached). There are other ways more likely to happen in mass made jewelry aca. Blue Nile. It is not rocket science to tell which is what.

Pieces done like that (starting with metal stock, small tools and lots of patience) are rather few and far betwee though. If you ever wondered what the process looks like, perhaps these tell some of the story.I don't know of too many jewelers who went on to tell the story in detail - this is one such attempt:

The rim of metal does not has much to do - it could be quite discrete if the row of diamonds needs to show more, or totally absent (as in the WF setting). The small diamonds are safe as long as the setting goes a hair over their girdles, and this must be the case for pave/bead setting. If there are exceptions, have not met them yet, or they may not be called like this anymore.

 

[mrssparkles]

Thanks, skphotoimages for the photo image. I am doubting that it is the same as the orginal setting from WF though. There seems to be diamonds set in the basket itself. Or is the pciture playing tricks with my eyes. Can someone who is familiar with the setting make a comment on this?

 

[JohnQuixote]

Hi

- Just running out, but I saw the questions in this thread. At a glance I am not able to say whether there are diamonds on the head of the ring or not. Once we're back from the weekend I can provide an answer.

 

[mrssparkles]

And yes, please post side view close-up photos of the setting for clarification. Thanks!

 

[jerbop]

bump

 

[JohnQuixote]

Good morning.

There is no pave in the head of this setting. It would be possible to do, if that was desired.

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 12/12/2005 11:12:11 AM
Author: JohnQuixote
Good morning.


There is no pave in the head of this setting. It would be possible to do, if that was desired.

Are there more pictures, maybe, huh? huh? huh?! Pretty please with sugar on top???!!!

(Thank you!)

Lynn

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 12/12/2005 4:45:00 PM
Author: Lynn B

Date: 12/12/2005 11:12:11 AM
Author: JohnQuixote
Good morning.


There is no pave in the head of this setting. It would be possible to do, if that was desired.

Are there more pictures, maybe, huh? huh? huh?! Pretty please with sugar on top???!!!

(Thank you!)

Lynn

Past customers have not requested a photo montage of this piece, so that''s the only view we have at this time. That may change if a Pricescope-sourced client orders it.

Thanks for the sugar though, Lynn - we can definitely use the extra energy it will provide at this time of the year.

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 12/12/2005 4:58:33 PM
Author: JohnQuixote

Past customers have not requested a photo montage of this piece, so that''s the only view we have at this time. That may change if a Pricescope-sourced client orders it.

Thanks for the sugar though, Lynn - we can definitely use the extra energy it will provide at this time of the year.

*** Hmph! *** What grinches! They are just no fun at all!!!

Well, can you at least tell us how big the center stone is?!!

 

[mrssparkles]

I think we have a chicken and egg situation here. If we CAN get more photos of the ring, maybe someone here at PS would be thrilled to make one just like it. Otherwise, it might just be a 50-50% chance?

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 12/12/2005 4:58:33 PM
Author: JohnQuixote

Date: 12/12/2005 4:45:00 PM

Author: Lynn B

Date: 12/12/2005 11:12:11 AM

Author: JohnQuixote

Good morning.



There is no pave in the head of this setting. It would be possible to do, if that was desired.

Are there more pictures, maybe, huh? huh? huh?! Pretty please with sugar on top???!!!

(Thank you!)


Lynn

Past customers have not requested a photo montage of this piece, so that''s the only view we have at this time. That may change if a Pricescope-sourced client orders it.

Thanks for the sugar though, Lynn - we can definitely use the extra energy it will provide at this time of the year.

any chance you still have photo''s of the wax?

 

[Kaleigh]

yes John pics of the wax would be great, hey we''ll take anything at this point. That is one yummy ring!!!

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 12/12/2005 9:09:31 PM
Author: mrssparkles
I think we have a chicken and egg situation here. If we CAN get more photos of the ring, maybe someone here at PS would be thrilled to make one just like it. Otherwise, it might just be a 50-50% chance?

I understand. It’s nice that this design has caused such a stir. The one photo is all we can provide though: The client purchased the piece and it is gone. We have the ability to reproduce any of our gallery items, but not all of them had wax photos and montages done.

Lynn, the diamond in that photo is between 1.80 and 2.20 cts.

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 12/12/2005 10:20:42 PM
Author: kaleigh

yes John pics of the wax would be great, hey we'll take anything at this point. That is one yummy ring!!!

I am so glad you all like this piece so much. Kaleigh, the 'anything' I can offer is to let you know it could be made with diamonds on the head, or with an entirely new head for that matter. Matatora's ring is based on a design something like this (Cupid's Quiver I believe) with a buttercup style head.

Let me offer perspective on wax photos or photo arrays of different pieces we have done over the years.

Remember, we cater to different environments. Away from Pricescope many clients call in, express what they would like and take delivery without wax or post-cast photos. Those who have no presence on internet forums are largely interested in the finished product, as their joy comes from showing it off live at ‘tea time.’ PS-ers are more specialized and have evolved expectations. One of your ‘tea times’ occurs here via internet, and you take joy in the exchange of your photos. For instance: Over time most vendors with a presence on PS have incorporated all proportions, magnified images and ideal-scope photos with the diamonds they sell, though not all have. These things are expected by Pricescopers, while less-known away from here.

There are few who attempt custom work via internet. The process is still young and growing, and very elaborate (I’ll be happy to expound). Thanks in part to forums like PS our system has evolved to incorporate wax and post-cast photos into many jobs, but not with all. They are especially useful for communication/understanding with elaborate pieces.

 

[Kath]

BUMP! I LOVEEEEE this ring, but with a RB diamond and smaller prongs. I''m crossing my fingers new people will see this and will have pictures of something similar! I did call WF and found out that the melees are 2 points each. I''m highly considering this designing something with this band for my own ring.

 

[stacy4232]

this is one of my favorite settings as well! i sure do wish we knew what the underside of the setting looks like!