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Circe|1366765572|3433321 said:Thing, am I wrong about this paleo thing sounding a lot like Atkins? Because that sounds like what I did the last time I needed to lose weight. I wound up losing 20 pounds in two months or so on a similar plan ... and while drinking, to boot. Then again, I was also 24. But I can see I need to look into what's new in the world of dieting ....
Circe|1366765572|3433321 said:Amc80, those are good points. I know low-carb has worked for me in the past, too ... if you go with it, we can be work-out buddies.
Circe|1366905361|3434349 said:... something about "Biggest Loser" using that system finally swayed him.
Audball, you provided the winning bit of info! We are now doing it on percentage of body weight lost. Prior to that, he was insisting that, well, of course you guys - my "posse," he termed you - would be arguing for a system that would benefit me (and most of the supporting info on the net comes from women in similar positions). But the fact that a reputable (well, sort of) organization uses it ...![]()
Kelinas|1366758433|3433218 said:Jane- this comment made me choke on my water, and totally turned my ugly mood around. Thanks![]()
Circe said:JaneSmith, I LOVE YOU. GENIUS.
sortmon|1366766099|3433327 said:Circe|1366765572|3433321 said:So ... my husband has made a counter-offer, since he feels percentage-of-body-weight is unfair. So, for ease of calculation, let's average out our weights: let's say he's 200 lbs and I'm 150 lbs. He wants to say that if I lose more pounds than him in absolute terms, I win: like, say, I lose 21 lbs and he loses 20 lbs. But if I lose less than him on a percentage basis, he wins - say, he loses 20 lbs and I only lose 14 lbs. And if it's an in-between number, like if he loses 20 and I lose anywhere in between 15 and 20, it's a draw.
I am bad enough at math that I suspect this works against me somehow, but I can't tell how.
Also, I am hungry.
This is where it's not fair to you because this is the zone where percentage-wise, you've lost more than him but he's calling that a "draw." I think that you still aim for the % weight loss! Also, drink lots of water before you step on the scale for the initial weigh-in - because you're thirsty.![]()
TooPatient|1366768214|3433362 said:30 Day Shred is a Denise Austin exercise video. It does great combining aerobic & strength. It is pretty intense, but only 20 minutes (and I'm super out of shape so if I could do it you should have no problem) so it doesn't take a lot of your time. Weights (like 2 pounds) are useful, but you can use whatever you've got around.
My current exercise is this:
Mon-Fri from 7am to 8am group meets in the park and is led by Army ranger. (check out parks in your area, they are free and those "playsets" that look so kid-like make for a hard workout if you climb on the ropes and stuff) (Mon upper body, Tues abs/core, Wed varies, Thurs & Fri combine whole body -- look at BWW weight loss thread for more detail)
Mon-Fri additional 1 mile walk (split into one 1/4 mile walk, one 1/2 mile walk, one 1/4 mile walk) between classes.
Sunday -- yard work (ivy pulling for 3+ hours....)
I'm trying to also add in 20 min per day with an exercise ball to get some good stretching and additional workout.
Dreamer_D|1366996178|3435040 said:Circe,
I have lost weight, and lots of it, a few times in my life and can tell you the only sure fire way to lose weight is to decrease your caloric intake by keeing track of what you eat.
Some people seem to be able to lose a little weight here or there by cutting out a certain type of food. And that is great if it works for you. But in my experience losing 30-60 lbs takes more than just cutting dairy or something.
I use weight watchers online to track. But any calorie counting method works too as long as you know what your target caloric intake should be.
You can also do what DS suggested and follow the diabetic diet.. the bland bland bland diabetic dietWeight Watchers actually has an option like that too ("simply filling") where you eat what you like of certain healthy foods.
Excercise is important but not as important as calorie counting in my book. Excecise just lets you eat more![]()
Unfortunately research suggests that if you want to lose and keep it off you will have to track your weight forevermore!
If I recall, you are a curvy gal. In that case, I suspect calorie counting will be the only thing that really works for you. It is all that works for me!
Dreamer_D|1367010206|3435185 said:Hey you may have luck using that method. Everyone has different habits, temptations, and self-regulatory abilities. Once when I was in my late teens I decided I did not want to worry about my weight and restrict so much and I would let my body find its "natural place". Well I have since discovered that my body has a natural weight of about 500lbs and if I let my desires guide me I'll hit that point!There is no moderation for me, I am either on the wagon or waaaaay off the wagon (i.e., the wagon being counting calories). I know others don't have that issue. My thin friends all seem to be able to regulate their eating better without actively thinking about it. For me, its a battle every day.
Good luck!
qtiekiki|1366993255|3435013 said:TooPatient|1366768214|3433362 said:30 Day Shred is a Denise Austin exercise video. It does great combining aerobic & strength. It is pretty intense, but only 20 minutes (and I'm super out of shape so if I could do it you should have no problem) so it doesn't take a lot of your time. Weights (like 2 pounds) are useful, but you can use whatever you've got around.
My current exercise is this:
Mon-Fri from 7am to 8am group meets in the park and is led by Army ranger. (check out parks in your area, they are free and those "playsets" that look so kid-like make for a hard workout if you climb on the ropes and stuff) (Mon upper body, Tues abs/core, Wed varies, Thurs & Fri combine whole body -- look at BWW weight loss thread for more detail)
Mon-Fri additional 1 mile walk (split into one 1/4 mile walk, one 1/2 mile walk, one 1/4 mile walk) between classes.
Sunday -- yard work (ivy pulling for 3+ hours....)
I'm trying to also add in 20 min per day with an exercise ball to get some good stretching and additional workout.
When you mentioned 30 Day Shred, I thought you were talking about Jillian Michaels 30 Day Shred. That's a good one too, if you need another short workout. It's about 25 min long.
I suggest doing HIIT on your elliptical to get the most for your time, where you alternate high and low intensity.
Example:
90 sec low speed or incline or resistance
30 sec max speed or incline or resistance
repeat for the rest of your workout
You will slowly work toward longer time in high intensity and less time in low intensity, so eventually you will be doing 90 sec high and 30 sec low.
I used to do workouts off http://www.bodyrock.tv (need to get back to it). It's short and effective. Their new website is harder to navigate though. You can also check out http://zuzkalight.com/, same idea as bodyrock but absolutely no equipements. She found bodyrock with her ex-husband. She left after they broke up.
On the food front, everyone else had given great advice.
House Cat|1367172865|3436148 said:typical meal on a whole 30:
grill a piece of meat
throw a sweet potato in the microwave and cook it as you would a regular potato
steam veggies.
have a salad.
Details:
to prepare meat you can use olive oil or coconut oil, then kosher salt and pepper. If you want to be fancier, then add spices, maybe a little lemon juice. Grill.
Sweet potato gets scrubbed in water, pricked with a fork, and put in microwave until soft. When you eat it, you CAN have ghee(clarified butter) but we just eat plain with salt and pepper. YUM.
Get a steamer basket for veggies. Put 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch water in pot, then steamer basket. Wash veggies, chop if needed, then put into steamer basket, cover pot, steam for 5-8 minutes until tender.
Dinner is done.
Eat as much as you want.![]()
We prepare double so we have lunch too.
no corn. It's a carb.
Whole30 is a cleanse that paleo eaters use. it rules out allergies and sensitivities. You will be amazed at how you feed by day 15. it is recommended that while you are doing this, that exercise be taken down to low impact walking or low strain yoga. The body is working hard to cleanse.
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We do!TooPatient|1367173828|3436152 said:House Cat|1367172865|3436148 said:typical meal on a whole 30:
grill a piece of meat
throw a sweet potato in the microwave and cook it as you would a regular potato
steam veggies.
have a salad.
Details:
to prepare meat you can use olive oil or coconut oil, then kosher salt and pepper. If you want to be fancier, then add spices, maybe a little lemon juice. Grill.
Sweet potato gets scrubbed in water, pricked with a fork, and put in microwave until soft. When you eat it, you CAN have ghee(clarified butter) but we just eat plain with salt and pepper. YUM.
Get a steamer basket for veggies. Put 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch water in pot, then steamer basket. Wash veggies, chop if needed, then put into steamer basket, cover pot, steam for 5-8 minutes until tender.
Dinner is done.
Eat as much as you want.![]()
We prepare double so we have lunch too.
no corn. It's a carb.
Whole30 is a cleanse that paleo eaters use. it rules out allergies and sensitivities. You will be amazed at how you feed by day 15. it is recommended that while you are doing this, that exercise be taken down to low impact walking or low strain yoga. The body is working hard to cleanse.
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You should try tossing your veggies on the grill some time when you're grilling meat.Still a very healthy way to cook and adds a bit of variety (plus tastes good!). Toss with a tiny bit of olive oil (like 1/2 Tbsp or less for all veggies) and you can get stuff like mint or fenugreek or fresh herbs to stick too! You can get a veggie basked for your grill at places like Home Depot or Lowes.
Circe|1367612435|3439793 said:I'm using you guys to keep me honest.![]()
(And to procrastinate. Oh, my goodness, the bad papers the end of this term have brought ....)
One and a half weeks in, I am down five pounds. So is he. But, on the other hand, now *I* can wear all of my eternity rings again! Ahahaha! Who knows: maybe by the end of this, I can STACK them like I used to!