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Was there a separate Politics forum on PS at one point?

OreoRosies86

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Or am I just imagining things pre-coffee?
 

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There used to be 'around the world' which is where I think politics was. At least during my time here! Cant speak to before then.
 

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Wish there still was. Hangout is ruined for me right now and I find myself not coming to PS as much.
 

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It would be cool if everyone could be herded into one arena to hash out politics. I enjoy political debate but find myself conflicted because Hangout is supposed to be the lounge where everyone chills, and it's nothing but Trump and Hillary.
 

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I think there was or is a dedicated forum.
Probably died because it got few eyeballs.

It doesn't ruin PS for me when thread topics don't interest me.
I just don't open those threads.

Clearly many posters want to talk about make up, underwater basket weaving, or whatev.
Doesn't bother me a bit.
 

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Yeah, political discussions were held in the Around the World forum, and then I think the mods tried to thin out the forums so ATW was removed and political discussions were moved to Hangout. It honestly doesn't bother me, as kenny said there is always the option of not reading a thread. I'm not really up for political debate these days so I just skip those threads, it's no big deal to me.
 

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kenny|1475168239|4082018 said:
I think there was or is a dedicated forum.
Probably died because it got few eyeballs.

It doesn't ruin PS for me when thread topics don't interest me.
I just don't open those threads.


Clearly many posters want to talk about make up, underwater basket weaving, or whatev.
Doesn't bother me a bit.
Yup, as long as it stays civil it is better to post on HO.
 

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I wish those posters interested in debating politics would keep one running thread going instead of starting lots of new political threads the rest of us have to wade past to find other topics. There are just more separate political threads right now than make sense given the limited number of people participating.
 

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rainwood|1475186701|4082181 said:
I wish those posters interested in debating politics would keep one running thread going instead of starting lots of new political threads the rest of us have to wade past to find other topics. There are just more separate political threads right now than make sense given the limited number of people participating.
Make sense to whom?
You? ... because this isn't your cup of tea?
Clearly your forum-mates feel differently.

Fewer people will see a new thing posted in an existing thread compared to starting a new one.
It's everyone's prerogative to decide whether to start a new thread or add to an existing one.

Again, just don't open threads, one or twenty, you're not interested in.
"Wading past"? How hard is a 17 millisecond flick of your thumb?
 

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kenny|1475187795|4082190 said:
rainwood|1475186701|4082181 said:
I wish those posters interested in debating politics would keep one running thread going instead of starting lots of new political threads the rest of us have to wade past to find other topics. There are just more separate political threads right now than make sense given the limited number of people participating.
Make sense to whom?
You? ... because this isn't your cup of tea?
Clearly your forum-mates feel differently.

Fewer people will see a new thing posted in an existing thread compared to starting a new one.
It's everyone's prerogative to decide whether to start a new thread or add to an existing one.

Again, just don't open threads, one or twenty, you're not interested in.
"Wading past"? How hard is a 17 millisecond flick of your thumb?
Your reaction was what I was expecting except you overestimate the physical dexterity of my fingers. But it's also clear that this thread exists because there are others who feel as I do. And some who probably aren't willing to express it because doing so would trigger a response like yours. For me, having to wade past a lot of political stuff (right or left) is a turnoff - I come to PS to get away from that - and I come less often because of it, the same way Karl said he does.

So go ahead and tell me how foolish I am, but people talk about reduced activity on PS, and maybe we should all be thinking about why that is. For me, it's the political stuff. For you, I'm assuming it's still sideways photos.
 

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rainwood|1475190828|4082215 said:
kenny|1475187795|4082190 said:
rainwood|1475186701|4082181 said:
I wish those posters interested in debating politics would keep one running thread going instead of starting lots of new political threads the rest of us have to wade past to find other topics. There are just more separate political threads right now than make sense given the limited number of people participating.
Make sense to whom?
You? ... because this isn't your cup of tea?
Clearly your forum-mates feel differently.

Fewer people will see a new thing posted in an existing thread compared to starting a new one.
It's everyone's prerogative to decide whether to start a new thread or add to an existing one.

Again, just don't open threads, one or twenty, you're not interested in.
"Wading past"? How hard is a 17 millisecond flick of your thumb?
Your reaction was what I was expecting except you overestimate the physical dexterity of my fingers. But it's also clear that this thread exists because there are others who feel as I do. And some who probably aren't willing to express it because doing so would trigger a response like yours. For me, having to wade past a lot of political stuff (right or left) is a turnoff - I come to PS to get away from that - and I come less often because of it, the same way Karl said he does.

So go ahead and tell me how foolish I am, but people talk about reduced activity on PS, and maybe we should all be thinking about why that is. For me, it's the political stuff. For you, I'm assuming it's still sideways photos.
Okay.
 

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I think a separate politics and government forum would be cool. And if members didn't want to go to that forum they could just flick their thumb a 17 millisecond click away from it ;))

People have expressed they aren't as active in Hangout because of the politics. I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
 

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rainwood|1475190828|4082215 said:
Your reaction was what I was expecting except you overestimate the physical dexterity of my fingers. But it's also clear that this thread exists because there are others who feel as I do. And some who probably aren't willing to express it because doing so would trigger a response like yours. For me, having to wade past a lot of political stuff (right or left) is a turnoff - I come to PS to get away from that - and I come less often because of it, the same way Karl said he does.
Some people feel the same about dogs and cat threads... :bigsmile: just don't click on those political topics... :wink2:
 

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Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
 

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kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
Important enough for its own forum, maybe. I view hangout as the place where everyone keeps the conversations free flowing and lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks. I mean at least if there was a separate forum maybe more people would step forward with opinions, international members would chime in more, it would add more of a sense of occasion. I really don't think it's that big of a stretch or a totally outlandish idea.
 

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Elliot86|1475199128|4082258 said:
kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks.
Somebody has to keep it fair and balanced. :lol: ;))
 

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I don't really have an opinion one way or the other. New sub-forum or leave it the way it is. I would imagine that monkeying with the forum layout is a PITA for admins and why should they make a new one just for politics? It will all die down after Nov. Just don't open the threads.
 

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?

It's a big world, the buck doesn't stop at the US presidential election?
 

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Elliot86|1475200801|4082265 said:
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It's a big world, the buck doesn't stop at the US presidential election?
Is that for me? I have no idea what you mean.
 

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redwood66|1475199380|4082259 said:
Elliot86|1475199128|4082258 said:
kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks.
Somebody has to keep it fair and balanced. :lol: ;))
You mean like MSNBC and NYT?... 8)
 

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This is definitely one of the more amusing threads of the last few months.
 

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Elliot86|1475199128|4082258 said:
kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
Important enough for its own forum, maybe. I view hangout as the place where everyone keeps the conversations free flowing and lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks. I mean at least if there was a separate forum maybe more people would step forward with opinions, international members would chime in more, it would add more of a sense of occasion. I really don't think it's that big of a stretch or a totally outlandish idea.
Funny how you fail to mention all the anti-trump threads. You aren't obliged to open the negative HRC threads. :wavey:
 

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Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I think a separate politics and government forum would be cool. And if members didn't want to go to that forum they could just flick their thumb a 17 millisecond click away from it ;))

People have expressed they aren't as active in Hangout because of the politics. I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.

The amusement grows. To answer the original question, yes, there once was what was a de facto political forum "Around The World". It was all away by itself. Nobody had to click into it. They could avoid it quite easily if they didn't like that sort of thing. It was quite rollicking, to a level that would make the usual suspects in the political threads these days, have serious fits of the vapours.

And yet....back then, the same types who are these days pushing to have political discussions kept out of sight of decent people, so they don't have to be upset and put off by looking at them, would repeatedly voluntarily come IN to the roped off area they didn't have to look at, read the political threads they said they despised and then grouse about how awful it all was and how it was mean and etc etc. And it was. Far beyond anything going on currently. Not saying I want that level of acrimony back - the mods killed all political discussion until now because of it, but it certainly did winnow the wheat from the chaff, and pointed out a certain hypocrisy among those complaining the loudest. They moaned about how they hated it and yet seemed drawn to it like moths to flame. One thing is for sure, for those who stuck it out, there was zero whining. Maybe some of the other old soldiers from those wars will chime in with other recollections, but that's the bones of it.

But of course, the point is that moving these hot-button topics will not make them any more palatable to people who don't have the stones to handle disagreement, vehement or otherwise, and they will still come in and complain.

Everything old would be new again.
 

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ksinger|1475238881|4082328 said:
This is definitely one of the more amusing threads of the last few months.
Yup, b/c there are many liberal comedians on PS... :lol:
 

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AnnaH|1475246785|4082353 said:
Elliot86|1475199128|4082258 said:
kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
Important enough for its own forum, maybe. I view hangout as the place where everyone keeps the conversations free flowing and lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks. I mean at least if there was a separate forum maybe more people would step forward with opinions, international members would chime in more, it would add more of a sense of occasion. I really don't think it's that big of a stretch or a totally outlandish idea.
Funny how you fail to mention all the anti-trump threads. You aren't obliged to open the negative HRC threads. :wavey:
I find it funny how you seem to follow my comments around :wavey:
 

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ksinger|1475251334|4082378 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I think a separate politics and government forum would be cool. And if members didn't want to go to that forum they could just flick their thumb a 17 millisecond click away from it ;))

People have expressed they aren't as active in Hangout because of the politics. I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.

The amusement grows. To answer the original question, yes, there once was what was a de facto political forum "Around The World". It was all away by itself. Nobody had to click into it. They could avoid it quite easily if they didn't like that sort of thing. It was quite rollicking, to a level that would make the usual suspects in the political threads these days, have serious fits of the vapours.

And yet....back then, the same types who are these days pushing to have political discussions kept out of sight of decent people, so they don't have to be upset and put off by looking at them, would repeatedly voluntarily come IN to the roped off area they didn't have to look at, read the political threads they said they despised and then grouse about how awful it all was and how it was mean and etc etc. And it was. Far beyond anything going on currently. Not saying I want that level of acrimony back - the mods killed all political discussion until now because of it, but it certainly did winnow the wheat from the chaff, and pointed out a certain hypocrisy among those complaining the loudest. They moaned about how they hated it and yet seemed drawn to it like moths to flame. One thing is for sure, for those who stuck it out, there was zero whining. Maybe some of the other old soldiers from those wars will chime in with other recollections, but that's the bones of it.

But of course, the point is that moving these hot-button topics will not make them any more palatable to people who don't have the stones to handle disagreement, vehement or otherwise, and they will still come in and complain.

Everything old would be new again.
Glad I could provide some amusement, then.
 

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Elliot86|1475258642|4082416 said:
AnnaH|1475246785|4082353 said:
Elliot86|1475199128|4082258 said:
kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
Important enough for its own forum, maybe. I view hangout as the place where everyone keeps the conversations free flowing and lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks. I mean at least if there was a separate forum maybe more people would step forward with opinions, international members would chime in more, it would add more of a sense of occasion. I really don't think it's that big of a stretch or a totally outlandish idea.
Funny how you fail to mention all the anti-trump threads. You aren't obliged to open the negative HRC threads. :wavey:
I find it funny how you seem to follow my comments around :wavey:
Actually, I follow posts, rather than posters. Also attempt to focus on posts, rather than posters. :wavey:
 

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I didn't know there was an ATW forum before. A simple "It didn't work out" would have sufficed for me!

I actually love politics and discussion of it. I'm not going to complain that Hangout has been more active lately either. It takes all kinds. I was mostly just curious if this was a thing here before or not.
 

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AnnaH|1475259066|4082419 said:
Elliot86|1475258642|4082416 said:
AnnaH|1475246785|4082353 said:
Elliot86|1475199128|4082258 said:
kenny|1475197681|4082250 said:
Elliot86|1475193359|4082234 said:
I love the political talks, but it really is clumping up a lot of the conversational vibe.
... perhaps it should, considering its importance.
Important enough for its own forum, maybe. I view hangout as the place where everyone keeps the conversations free flowing and lately it's becoming just the same 3 people talking about Hillary Clinton and how she sucks. I mean at least if there was a separate forum maybe more people would step forward with opinions, international members would chime in more, it would add more of a sense of occasion. I really don't think it's that big of a stretch or a totally outlandish idea.
Funny how you fail to mention all the anti-trump threads. You aren't obliged to open the negative HRC threads. :wavey:
I find it funny how you seem to follow my comments around :wavey:
Actually, I follow posts, rather than posters. Also attempt to focus on posts, rather than posters. :wavey:
:wavey:
 
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