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Garry H (Cut Nut)

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Look at 7.01 I VVS2
7.02 I VVS1
8.04 J VVS1
These happen to all be from the same retailer, but that is only because I am looking at them on the supplier side and the supplier has all the info that you can get from that company or any other you may wish to deal with.
The point I am making is you can ask and receive. If you ask you will get given support and education.
You can always then come back on here and post the information for PS expert advice.
 

madelise

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Look at 7.01 I VVS2
7.02 I VVS1
8.04 J VVS1
These happen to all be from the same retailer, but that is only because I am looking at them on the supplier side and the supplier has all the info that you can get from that company or any other you may wish to deal with.
The point I am making is you can ask and receive. If you ask you will get given support and education.
You can always then come back on here and post the information for PS expert advice.

I’m confused. Those aren’t the stats I’m seeking for? I don’t need expert advice. I know how to read an ASET and have helped many PSers and non-PSers in the last decade read theirs as well as lent out my ASET scope for them to use for their shopping.

I am just seeking for places to soft shop/window shop to learn more by seeing many options with varying stats (eg, compared a K VS with a L SI with a J VVS) and cut pattern to learn.

I am a scientist and like data to learn and make educated decisions.

I stopped by diamond district this weekend and saw some within the range I’m looking for, as well as am making a 3-5carat purchase soon so hopefully whomever I’m buying from will be willing to spend time educating me without any pressure.
 

OoohShiny

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I don’t like Jon and will never use him again after my ex-Fiance purchased spent almost $40k with him and I saw his islamaphobic and homophobic posts on social media. My money goes where my mouth is.
May I ask if you'd be able to point out these posts?

I don't recall seeing anything I would consider phobic, but then I am not on social media, only looking at Instagram once in a while.
 

madelise

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May I ask if you'd be able to point out these posts?

I don't recall seeing anything I would consider phobic, but then I am not on social media, only looking at Instagram once in a while.
They were on his Facebook account (personal). He used to add his clients. Not sure if he does anymore.

Imagine my horror after spending $$$$$ with him with my Muslim ex? It made me feel sick.

Ask any oldie PSer. Just be prepared for a lot of defenders excusing his actions bc it’s on his personal account so it’s okay.
 

madelise

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So the response to my original post, so far is:

Jewels by Grace
Ice Rock
Jogani Fine
Parks Fine
James Allen
The Clear Cut

Prices and stats are listed either all the time or here and there. I’ll be continuing to hunt, learn, and self-educate so I feel 100% comfortable in purchasing will most likely be my last diamond ever.

Again, these are for old cut ovals and vintage or modern emerald cuts in lower colors, seeking in giant sizes.

These may not be the best places to look for F VVS but I’m not a F VVS type girl.
 

OoohShiny

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They were on his Facebook account (personal). He used to add his clients. Not sure if he does anymore.

Imagine my horror after spending $$$$$ with him with my Muslim ex? It made me feel sick.

Ask any oldie PSer. Just be prepared for a lot of defenders excusing his actions bc it’s on his personal account so it’s okay.
Ah, ok, I'm not on social media and haven't purchased anything (from anyone else but the one time from HPD - I need more money :( lol) so I have not seen anything like this.
 

madelise

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Forgot, Mark Broumand also has a lot of bigger diamonds in the lower color zone. I think this one was a Y-Z with a yellow cup.

We saw things in the lower end of the alphabet which was super fun. I wasn’t anticipating the intended of the other diamond I’m buying would like lower colors but he does!! And for ECs!! Super nice because while shopping for them, I am learning more about pricing for lower color ECs as well.

Mark Broumand makes the coolest yellow cups with engraving. I wish I caught a photo. I have this light yellow tinted, lower alphabet antique cushion cut that’s been waiting in my safe for about ~5 years so it’s getting my brain’s gears moving about how to set it and who to set it with.

D1DB1A23-5FD0-4021-9954-17FF05861C0B.jpeg
 

yssie

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@madelise You have my respect for choosing to vote with your wallet.

I’m honestly astonished and disgusted by how many PSers we’ve seen compromise on their own stated beliefs and ethics - on this issue, on other issues - “if the price is right”. The price should never be right for compromise on whatever one’s personal morality may demand.

My next large RB will be from CBI. I respect their commitment to humanitarian efforts, and I respect that they committed to those efforts before the big names took notice and before it was sexy to do so. To me the CBI premium is worth it. Of course - they do only modern rounds!
 
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madelise

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@madelise You have my respect for choosing to vote with your wallet.

I’m honestly astonished and disgusted by how many PSers we’ve seen compromise on their own stated beliefs and ethics - on this issue, on other issues - “if the price is right”. The price should never be right for compromise on whatever one’s personal morality may demand.

My next large RB will be from CBI. I respect their commitment to humanitarian efforts, and I respect that they committed to those efforts before the big names took notice and before it was sexy to do so. To me the CBI premium is worth it. Of course - they do only modern rounds!
Yssie, I almost wish there’s a list of ethics that vendors support/don’t support. I do the same for shopping for any other thing, and jewelry is just too $$$ to knock out without consideration. I won’t even eat quinoa anymore because of the detriment to South American countries’ indigenous people who’ve gotten their food source robbed from them because vegetarians and vegans locally believe saving local animals trumps putting whole countries out of their food staples.
 

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@yssie @madelise thank you for pointing this out I never knew about this but now some things make sense in hindsight and I will stay clear of any business with people who have very questionable views! There is also a gem cutter, who is very popular on ps especially with lab stones who has very questionable views. Even though his gems are pretty I was so happy the sale fell through because he didn't wan't to ship to Europe, because we really have terrible "socialist governments in place and hopefully that will change soon".
 

yssie

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Yssie, I almost wish there’s a list of ethics that vendors support/don’t support. I do the same for shopping for any other thing, and jewelry is just too $$$ to knock out without consideration. I won’t even eat quinoa anymore because of the detriment to South American countries’ indigenous people who’ve gotten their food source robbed from them because vegetarians and vegans locally believe saving local animals trumps putting whole countries out of their food staples.
It really feels like a global, macabre game of ‘who’s up next for the piñata’. Animal cruelty drives people to be vegetarian or vegan, burgeoning v* drives unsustainable commoditization, either way corporate ambassadors always win and those without executive power always lose :knockout:

I do acknowledge - and I know you do too - that there’s a pretty dramatic difference between “I can’t afford grassfed cow or wild Alaskan salmon” and “I don’t want to pay a 5% premium - or lower my desired stats - for a newly-manufactured diamond that’s guaranteed to not come from Zimbabwe”, or “I don’t care for his person’s beliefs but I’ll support his or her power to impact my community on his or her terms because only this diamond will do for me”.

Anyway. Sorry for derailing your thread -
I’m done. Been thinking about some of these issues myself a fair amount recently and wanted to say thank you for voicing your opinion here.
 
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madelise

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Sorry no better pictures. I couldn’t go see it in person, so I had someone else see it for me and I only wanted videos. Screen grabs are hard and of awful quality from videos.
 

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Sorry no better pictures. I couldn’t go see it in person, so I had someone else see it for me and I only wanted videos. Screen grabs are hard and of awful quality from videos.
wait, what vendor? details? I'm SO CURIOUS what you ended up with :)
 

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I don’t like Jon and will never use him again after my ex-Fiance purchased spent almost $40k with him and I saw his islamaphobic and homophobic posts on social media. My money goes where my mouth is.
I don't believe it. No one should be slandering someones professional reputation here without providing actual proof.
 

madelise

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I don't believe it. No one should be slandering someones professional reputation here without providing actual proof.
Lol okay, well I deleted and blocked him off my Facebook and don’t store conversations from 5 years ago.

But ok. I must be a liar. I don’t care if you don’t believe me. Other people know it’s true and I know I’m not lying.
 

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I don't believe it. No one should be slandering someones professional reputation here without providing actual proof.
It did happen. There is actually a lively thread about this incident. The OP of THAT thread can link it if s/he wants to.
 

madelise

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It did happen. There is actually a lively thread about this incident. The OP of THAT thread can link it if s/he wants to.
There was? I haven’t been on PS in years other than to search something quickly. It’s been a good break. I don’t care to come back here for all the hurtful drama and crap that comes up, but I will not be okay with anyone calling me a liar about why I will not support a homophobic islamaphobe lol.

I don’t lie about this stuff.
 

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Hi,
Rockhond aff,

You should be able to find posts on Jon putting a fetus on his personal account to show his opposition to abortion. As Madelise has said, he invites his customers to his personal page to view this fetus. Since young men and women are his main customers, he used his business to promote his personal beliefs. IMO, it was pretty disgraceful to try to influence his young clients against abortion. I. too, would never buy from him. I don't go to facebook so can't verify the islama-phobic or homo-phobic posts, but it would be in keeping with what I read posted on PS. Look for it.

Annette
 

Ella

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Folks, please stop name calling. That’s unnecessary. Discussions of factual situations are allowed, we will remove posts if we feel like what is being said is not truthful. Keep it to facts not name calling.
 

rockhoundofficiando

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Literally, I have nothing to gain to point out why I will not shop with him. Stop being a troll, and go spend your money with whatever problematic people you choose to. I won’t.
You negatively labeled him, now you're labeling me a "troll" because I disagree with you and pointed out the obvious. One should not levy heinous accusations potentially tarnishing someone's professional reputation without providing any evidence!
It did happen. There is actually a lively thread about this incident. The OP of THAT thread can link it if s/he wants to.
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You said it's true?, You've seen actual homophobic or Islamophobic comments by him? If so, I wish you could link his comments, that thread! Those are huge, heinous accusations to levy against someone.
Hi,
Rockhond aff

You should be able to find posts on Jon putting a fetus on his personal account to show his opposition to abortion. As Madelise has said, he invites his customers to his personal page to view this fetus. Since young men and women are his main customers, he used his business to promote his personal beliefs. IMO, it was pretty disgraceful to try to influence his young clients against abortion. I. too, would never buy from him. I don't go to facebook so can't verify the islama-phobic or homo-phobic posts, but it would be in keeping with what I read posted on PS. Look for it.

Annette
In your opinion you didn't feel his behavior posting the photos of a fetus appropriate. I couln't find the thread but it doesn't sound to me like a smart thing to do. However everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even him. His view on abortion does not make him a homophobe or Islamophobe. As you said, you've never seen any homophobic or Islamaphobic comments from him, and neither have I. I think most of us would agree that it's a horrible thing to accuse someone publicly of! There should at least be some proof offered. I'm shocked the mods haven't stepped in.

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madelise

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Oh great. Another “show me proof” person. Please go away. I don’t need to show you anything. Like I said, if you don’t believe me, I don’t give a care. I don’t know you. Who are you, internet stranger, and why do you think I care about your opinions?

You’re welcome to add him as a friend on FB and search through his years of posts. I don’t care to entertain you. And yes, you’re being a troll because this thread is about giant diamonds and where one may go seek more information to learn, NOT about Jon. You’re de-railing this. If you’d like to start your own thread about how wonderful Jon is despite your perception of me lying, be my guest.

I’ve been on the boards for 10 years, have gone to tons of meetups, have made real life friends with many PS’ers. My reputation isn’t one of a random liar just because I didn’t feel like shopping with someone. Which, by the way, he made $40k off of me already so.
 

madelise

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It’s funny, I sent him a local friend that became his customer without even interacting with him before.

But I never considered to use him until kama’s experience. So thank you, kama, for sharing your experience. I am squealing with excitement and can not wait for this to be made into a ring, and I cannot wait for the intended to get it as a gift!!! I don’t think she’ll believe it.
 
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