Urgently searching for 3ct round cut diamond.

[ragrave]

Sorry, I am not sure if I should have created another topic but my time is very tight.

Long story short, my wedding is on June 2nd and we need to get the replacement ring before May 15. The 3.18ct we fell in love was sold and I have to search for a new one.
https://www.pricescope.com/communit...e-2-stones-replacement-of-a-lost-ring.239910/

My price range is $25-$30k.
Prefer size is 2.7-3ct.
Clarity SI1 or above
Color I or above

I have few choices.
2.9 I SI1 $ 25,950 9.06 - 9.12 x 5.67
https://v360.in/movie/59_2578

2.81 I VS1 $ 26,965 9.03 - 9.07 x 5.55
http://www.sanghvisons.com/gia/?reportno=6141248464&weight=2.81

2.75 I VS2 $ 27,150 8.93 - 8.96 x 5.52
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=3275401945

 

[the_mother_thing]

If your time is THAT critical, do you really have time to search for virtual stones again, or would it be better to look for in-house options to ensure you get what you need set and delivered by the time you need it?

I omitted virtual options @ WF, and searched for ACA, Expert Selection & Premium Select, and only came up with these three ACAs (all noted to be eye clean) in your budget, and all three of which are 2.5-2.6 ct (nothing bigger in your budget).

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=3965451,3907538,3965445

 

[ragrave]

If your time is THAT critical, do you really have time to search for virtual stones again, or would it be better to look for in-house options to ensure you get what you need set and delivered by the time you need it?

I omitted virtual options @ WF, and searched for ACA, Expert Selection & Premium Select, and only came up with these three ACAs (all noted to be eye clean) in your budget, and all three of which are 2.5-2.6 ct (nothing bigger in your budget).

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=3965451,3907538,3965445

I totally agree with you. There is 2.8 I like from WF. The price is around $31k. However, my fiancee has said so many times that her dream is to get 3ct stone. She doesn't care much about other Cs as I do. That's why I am trying to get as close to 3ct if possible.

 

[the_mother_thing]

I totally agree with you. There is 2.8 I like from WF. The price is around $31k. However, my fiancee has said so many times that her dream is to get 3ct stone. She doesn't care much about other Cs as I do. That's why I am trying to get as close to 3ct if possible.

If SHE doesn’t care about the other ‘C’s as much, what about this 3.12ct J ACA that is *just* over your $30K max (if paid via wire). The pic looks pretty crisp & white for a J, and I will defer to other PSers to comment on it’s specs, but I’d ask WF to observe & compare it to a couple I colored ACAs and let you know what they think, and send you a pic and/or video.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3893624.htm

 

[CareBear]

I totally agree with you. There is 2.8 I like from WF. The price is around $31k. However, my fiancee has said so many times that her dream is to get 3ct stone. She doesn't care much about other Cs as I do. That's why I am trying to get as close to 3ct if possible.

Tell her it's all about the diameter measurement, not weight

 

[the_mother_thing]

@ragrave - Please advise *if* - based on her preferences - you’re open to considering J colors (one of which has medium blue fluoro) because I found a couple that are 3ct+ that are in ideal ranges and in your budget that may be worth considering. But I don’t want to waste your time if they’re completely out of consideration.

 

[TreeScientist]

Well, if she just cares about the size, this one would tick all of your boxes:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4637391

Would need to ask for an IS to confirm performance, but looks good judging by the video alone.

While the stone is a bit over your budget, you get a credit of up to $1500 towards the setting when you buy a diamond over $30k from James Allen, so that should keep you within budget assuming you can find a setting from JA that you like.

 

[TreeScientist]

Well, I just saw in your original thread that VC will be doing your replacement ring. In that case, ask for the Pricescope Discount on the stone. Should bring it below $30K.

And the nice thing is that she'll be able to say "It's a 3 carat" as it sounds like this is the most important thing to her.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Well, if she just cares about the size, this one would tick all of your boxes:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4637391

Would need to ask for an IS to confirm performance, but looks good judging by the video alone.

While the stone is a bit over your budget, you get a credit of up to $1500 towards the setting when you buy a diamond over $30k from James Allen, so that should keep you within budget assuming you can find a setting from JA that you like.

I have the same one on my list for him as well.

But this ‘J’ piqued my curiousity (https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4599210) because of the GIA cert note it was mined in Alrosa, Russia, and it hits that “35.5 CA w/40.6 PA” point, and is $28.5K for 3.24ct.

 

[ragrave]

@ragrave - Please advise *if* - based on her preferences - you’re open to considering J colors (one of which has medium blue fluoro) because I found a couple that are 3ct+ that are in ideal ranges and in your budget that may be worth considering. But I don’t want to waste your time if they’re completely out of consideration.

This might sound funny but I color is actually my criteria. Her lost one is G, so I think she might have a problem with J even she said she doesn't care much about it.

Tell her it's all about the diameter measurement, not weight

The 3.18ct that was recently sold is 9.5mm.

Well, if she just cares about the size, this one would tick all of your boxes:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4637391

Would need to ask for an IS to confirm performance, but looks good judging by the video alone.

While the stone is a bit over your budget, you get a credit of up to $1500 towards the setting when you buy a diamond over $30k from James Allen, so that should keep you within budget assuming you can find a setting from JA that you like.

I'm going to ask them for the IS. Thanks!

What do you think about 2.9ct VC sent to me?

 

[the_mother_thing]

This might sound funny but I color is actually my criteria. Her lost one is G, so I think she might have a problem with J even she said she doesn't care much about it.

Not funny at all; you want what you want, so we’ll do our best to find it for you.

 

[ragrave]

If your time is THAT critical, do you really have time to search for virtual stones again, or would it be better to look for in-house options to ensure you get what you need set and delivered by the time you need it?

I omitted virtual options @ WF, and searched for ACA, Expert Selection & Premium Select, and only came up with these three ACAs (all noted to be eye clean) in your budget, and all three of which are 2.5-2.6 ct (nothing bigger in your budget).

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=3965451,3907538,3965445

This is the one I mentioned but over the budget.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3965441.htm

 

[the_mother_thing]

This is the one I mentioned but over the budget.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3965441.htm

It’s beautiful!

 

[rockysalamander]

2.856=3 c if you round it. That WF is divine. If she WA ts to hit 3c, would you be open to it big an upgrade? With WF...you get 100% cost toward upgrade of any highervalue. JA will require 2x cost for upgrade.

 

[ragrave]

It’s beautiful!

2.856=3 c if you round it. That WF is divine. If she WA ts to hit 3c, would you be open to it big an upgrade? With WF...you get 100% cost toward upgrade of any highervalue. JA will require 2x cost for upgrade.

2.856ct WF has a larger diameter than many 3ct (9.22 - 9.28mm).
I don't know if Victor will be ok with this since the insurance has to go through him.

 

[the_mother_thing]

2.856ct WF has a larger diameter than many 3ct (9.22 - 9.28mm).
I don't know if Victor will be ok with this since the insurance has to go through him.

The insurance payment is/was sent to him? I’m confused. Does he need to approve whatever diamond you choose?

 

[ragrave]

The insurance payment is/was sent to him? I’m confused. Does he need to approve whatever diamond you choose?

VC won't deal with WF. The insurance company has authorized VC to order any stone. He can get a stone anywhere but the margin is probably much lower from WF. I understand his thought.

He will bring in 2.9ct stone next week and we can see it in person. Finger Crossed!
2.9 I SI1 $ 25,950 9.06 - 9.12 x 5.67
https://v360.in/movie/59_2578

 

[gm89uk]

Looks nice, ensure it isn't cloudy!

 

[ragrave]

3.36ct Any feedback?
https://www.eternitybyyoni.com/diamond_detail.php?id=2636296&ref=pricescope

 

[ragrave]

Well, if she just cares about the size, this one would tick all of your boxes:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4637391

Would need to ask for an IS to confirm performance, but looks good judging by the video alone.

While the stone is a bit over your budget, you get a credit of up to $1500 towards the setting when you buy a diamond over $30k from James Allen, so that should keep you within budget assuming you can find a setting from JA that you like.

IS looks good... I think.

 

[ragrave]

3.07 I VS2

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/3....Cut-Round-Diamond/D40867090?&refer=pricescope

Victor doesn't like this one very much since inclusions are clustered in the center. What do you guys think? Isn't VS2 eye-clean?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

That black inclusion reflects in the stone and I don't like the cut. I'd pass pm the adiamor stone. The JA I VS2 looks good other than I wouldn't like black inclusions. But I assume it is eyeclean in normal viewing. Sounds like she cares most about the size.

I'd be concerned about the clarity in the eternitybyyoni stone.

 

[ccuheartnurse]

Can't Victor order from the same supplier that JA has that stone listed from? Maybe he can. I know they all say they have partners but a lot of times you'll also hear, "sale is final if we bring in that stone". But that J stone from JA looks pretty darn nice! And to add, that that J, SI-1, is going to be eye clean. There is no way you will see that blemish on the stone from normal viewing angles. Super nice & with med. fluoro too. Maybe VC can get it in to compare. You never know what your eyeballs will like.

 

[TreeScientist]

IS looks good... I think.

I think the IS looks decent. No glaring leakage in the image.

I'm not a fan of the 2.9 I SI1 that Victor found for you. I'm wary whenever clouds are the grade-setting inclusion in SI clarity diamonds. When you view it in person next week, it would be good to compare it to a higher clarity or other SI diamond without clouds to see if there's a difference in appearance. This is the easiest way to tell if the clouds are impacting transparency or light return.

 

[Snowdrop13]

Don’t know if this is worth a look? No pics so you’d have to check the clarity but it has AGS Ideal cert.

http://diamonddealfinder.com/enquiry.php?id_field=7740057

 

[OoohShiny]

To ask the question, who is paying?

You?
Both of you?

If it's just you, you could always ask for a contribution from your lady, so that she can have what she wants

 

[rockysalamander]

. He can get a stone anywhere but the margin is probably much lower from WF. I understand his thought.

Actually, I don't understand this. You are the customer and are ordering a setting from him. Does he have a specific policy not to set WF and other branded super-ideals? If so, fine. If not, I don't see why his desire for a better margin should rule your diamond choices -- especially where his own line of super-ideals only get you to ~2 carats for the same money. I just don't like diva attitudes from designers. Rant over.

Are you 100% sure your girl will be ok with a J? A large stone combined with the J-color is a bit risky if she has not seen and ok'd GIA J. At least with a super-ideal, you can be more confident that the J would face-up white eyes. Especially if you buy via Victor for a stone not within his inventory, you may not have an upgrade/trade option.

Has this been posted? Hard to say how it will look given it lacks photos, but it hits your size target and is a G with AGS light performance which looks great.
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/7780506/Round-Diamond-G-Color-SI2-Clarity

This is an H with GIA cert.
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/11300046/Round-Diamond-H-Color-SI1-Clarity

 

[ragrave]

Can't Victor order from the same supplier that JA has that stone listed from? Maybe he can. I know they all say they have partners but a lot of times you'll also hear, "sale is final if we bring in that stone". But that J stone from JA looks pretty darn nice! And to add, that that J, SI-1, is going to be eye clean. There is no way you will see that blemish on the stone from normal viewing angles. Super nice & with med. fluoro too. Maybe VC can get it in to compare. You never know what your eyeballs will like.

He said he can order any virtual stones but not in-house stones. I will ask him if he can call in 2 or 3 stones to compare.

I think the IS looks decent. No glaring leakage in the image.

I'm not a fan of the 2.9 I SI1 that Victor found for you. I'm wary whenever clouds are the grade-setting inclusion in SI clarity diamonds. When you view it in person next week, it would be good to compare it to a higher clarity or other SI diamond without clouds to see if there's a difference in appearance. This is the easiest way to tell if the clouds are impacting transparency or light return.

VC has plenty of SI1. That is my concern as well.

Don’t know if this is worth a look? No pics so you’d have to check the clarity but it has AGS Ideal cert.

http://diamonddealfinder.com/enquiry.php?id_field=7740057

I was looking at that one as well! It is out with memo though.

To ask the question, who is paying?

You?
Both of you?

If it's just you, you could always ask for a contribution from your lady, so that she can have what she wants

Only me :/ I asked and she laughed.

Actually, I don't understand this. You are the customer and are ordering a setting from him. Does he have a specific policy not to set WF and other branded super-ideals? If so, fine. If not, I don't see why his desire for a better margin should rule your diamond choices -- especially where his own line of super-ideals only get you to ~2 carats for the same money. I just don't like diva attitudes from designers. Rant over.

Are you 100% sure your girl will be ok with a J? A large stone combined with the J-color is a bit risky if she has not seen and ok'd GIA J. At least with a super-ideal, you can be more confident that the J would face-up white eyes. Especially if you buy via Victor for a stone not within his inventory, you may not have an upgrade/trade option.

Has this been posted? Hard to say how it will look given it lacks photos, but it hits your size target and is a G with AGS light performance which looks great.
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/7780506/Round-Diamond-G-Color-SI2-Clarity

This is an H with GIA cert.
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/11300046/Round-Diamond-H-Color-SI1-Clarity

I don't think she will be ok with J. Her lost one was G. VC only allows upgtade if a stone comes from his in-house collection. If it doesn't work out with VC. I can get both diamond and setting from WF but will leave that as a last resort. My lady really loves the original setting I gave her and I like working with VC so far.

This is a picture of SI2.


3.07ct H is the same one I posted above.
https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/I-VS2-Affinity-Cut-Round-Diamond/D40867090

Thanks for your input.

 

[OoohShiny]

Only me :/ I asked and she laughed.

Well, then, you have every right to point out that if she's not happy with what you get (because it's not big enough / not high enough colour / is too low a clarity) she has no right to complain because you offered her the opportunity to help get what she wanted!

 

[ragrave]

Well, then, you have every right to point out that if she's not happy with what you get (because it's not big enough / not high enough colour / is too low a clarity) she has no right to complain because you offered her the opportunity to help get what she wanted!

She won't complain. I just want to get the best deal for her if possible.
Do you think these criteria are too unreasonable?
Price $25-$30k.
Size 2.7-3ct.
Clarity SI1
Color I