Update on my diamond and score one for B&M jewelers!

[dockman3]

Hey everyone. I want to thank you all for helping me with this decision. Here is the original post if your memory is a little shaky:

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/help-did-i-overpay-for-this.86692/

So here''s the update: I just got back from the jeweler and he was able to exchange my diamond, which was an 0.81ct, G, SI1, GIA VG cut, HCA 5.6 for (are you ready for this) an 0.82 ct, D, eye clean SI2, GIA Ex cut, HCA 2.7, AT NO EXTRA CHARGE! So I upgraded 3 of the 4 C''s for the same price. That means one of two things: 1) I got ripped off the first time (which is the most likely) or 2) He just got a great deal on that stone. Either way, I ended up with a much better stone and one I can be proud to present to my gf when I give it her, which is all that matters to me. I don''t have the cert in front of me because the ring is getting set, but I''ll have it early next week and post all of the dimensions.

I score one for B&M jewelers because in my opinion, it was great working with Bill and Apryl at my local store and they were very accomodating. They sat with me for over two hours just looking at different stones they had found for me and it was great to be able to see all of the stones side by side. I know most of you have no problem buying diamonds online, but this was such a big purchase for me (the second most expensive thing I''ve ever bought; the first was my car), that I couldn''t buy a diamond sight unseen. It also restored my faith in B&M jewelers. I''ve seen I don''t know how many posts here who have had terrible experiences with B&M shops, but mine could not have been more positive. They helped me through every step of the process and even though I didn''t get the right diamond the first time, they made up for it spectacularly. So for those of you who are down on B&M shops, hopefully my experience will give you some more confidence in them. My advice after this ordeal is to just be honest and don''t be afraid to ask questions or say no. Again, thanks to everybody here for all of your help. I really appreciate and I will try to pass on everything I''ve learned to the newbies (even though I''m technically still a newbie!).

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 6/6/2008 2:31:07 PM
Author:dockman3
So here''s the update: I just got back from the jeweler and he was able to exchange my diamond, which was an 0.81ct, G, SI1, GIA VG cut, HCA 5.6 for (are you ready for this) an 0.82 ct, D, eye clean SI2, GIA Ex cut, HCA 2.7, AT NO EXTRA CHARGE! So I upgraded 3 of the 4 C''s for the same price. That means one of two things: 1) I got ripped off the first time (which is the most likely) or 2) He just got a great deal on that stone. Either way, I ended up with a much better stone and one I can be proud to present to my gf when I give it her, which is all that matters to me. I don''t have the cert in front of me because the ring is getting set, but I''ll have it early next week and post all of the dimensions.

depends on how much you paid for the stone.

 

[neatfreak]

I''m not really seeing how this new stone is much better... Sorry.

 

[dockman3]

Well, I would say that upgrading from 0.81 to 0.82 makes it better, upgrading from G to D makes it better, and upgrading from a VG cut to an Ex cut makes it a lot better! The only place I sacrificed was in clarity, but they are both eye clean. I stared at each of them for about 15 minutes trying to find the inclusions with my naked eye and couldn''t do it. I saw these two stones side by side and you could easily tell which stone was which. I even had this new stone next to two different AGS000 H&A diamonds and honestly couldn''t tell a difference. Plus, Going from an HCA of 5.6 that scored Good, Poor, Fair, Good to one that scored an HCA of 2.7 with VG across the board is a huge upgrade. According to the HCA, had it been rated by AGS instead of GIA, it would have been an AGS011 probably. That is much better than the old stone with didn''t even make the grade for GIA Ex. In my opinion, its a much better stone and its much more alive and I''m happy with it. So thank you again to everyone who told me to take my diamond back and get a new one. I''m much happier and have absolutely no buyer''s remorse this time.

 

[Isabelle]

Date: 6/7/2008 9:59:28 AM
Author: dockman3
Well, I would say that upgrading from 0.81 to 0.82 makes it better, upgrading from G to D makes it better, and upgrading from a VG cut to an Ex cut makes it a lot better! The only place I sacrificed was in clarity, but they are both eye clean. I stared at each of them for about 15 minutes trying to find the inclusions with my naked eye and couldn''t do it. I saw these two stones side by side and you could easily tell which stone was which. I even had this new stone next to two different AGS000 H&A diamonds and honestly couldn''t tell a difference. Plus, Going from an HCA of 5.6 that scored Good, Poor, Fair, Good to one that scored an HCA of 2.7 with VG across the board is a huge upgrade. According to the HCA, had it been rated by AGS instead of GIA, it would have been an AGS011 probably. That is much better than the old stone with didn''t even make the grade for GIA Ex. In my opinion, its a much better stone and its much more alive and I''m happy with it. So thank you again to everyone who told me to take my diamond back and get a new one. I''m much happier and have absolutely no buyer''s remorse this time.

You know what dockman? I agree with you. You should be happy and I think to give your future wife a D COLOR DIAMOND, for crying out loud, is FANTASTIC. I bet the stone will look like a carat too b/c it has "Excellent" rating. You did well and you were obviously working with a reputable jeweler. Well done, congratulations, and PLEASE post pictures of the final ring, ok?

 

[dockman3]

Thank you very much Isabelle! I should have the ring early next week and I will definitely post pictures. I''ll even put some side by side of old ring and new ring if I can.

 

[Isabelle]

Date: 6/7/2008 10:19:50 AM
Author: dockman3
Thank you very much Isabelle! I should have the ring early next week and I will definitely post pictures. I''ll even put some side by side of old ring and new ring if I can.

Awesome! I can''t wait to see it. This is such an exciting time for you.

 

[angeline]

I can see why you are happy dockman! The new stone sounds like a huge improvement, and if you did get ripped off the first time at least you have now rectified matters somewhat! Well done.

Looking forward to pics..

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

You sound very happy and got what you wanted, and that is what matters. Congrats!!

cheers--Sharon

 

[Catmom]

I''m happy that you were able to get what you wanted dockman!! The stone sounds lovely and I can''t wait to see it set. Another good thing about finding a B&M that you like is that you will have a place to take the ring for cleanings and inspections and heaven forbid, repairs if needed.

 

[gwendolyn]

Date: 6/7/2008 9:59:28 AM
Author: dockman3
Well, I would say that upgrading from 0.81 to 0.82 makes it better, upgrading from G to D makes it better, and upgrading from a VG cut to an Ex cut makes it a lot better! The only place I sacrificed was in clarity, but they are both eye clean. I stared at each of them for about 15 minutes trying to find the inclusions with my naked eye and couldn''t do it. I saw these two stones side by side and you could easily tell which stone was which. I even had this new stone next to two different AGS000 H&A diamonds and honestly couldn''t tell a difference. Plus, Going from an HCA of 5.6 that scored Good, Poor, Fair, Good to one that scored an HCA of 2.7 with VG across the board is a huge upgrade. According to the HCA, had it been rated by AGS instead of GIA, it would have been an AGS011 probably. That is much better than the old stone with didn''t even make the grade for GIA Ex. In my opinion, its a much better stone and its much more alive and I''m happy with it. So thank you again to everyone who told me to take my diamond back and get a new one. I''m much happier and have absolutely no buyer''s remorse this time.

I think it sounds like an improvement as well--congratulations on going back and making sure you ended up happy with your purchase! I''ll bet the stone is a knockout and I can''t wait to see some photos.

 

[dockman3]

Thanks everyone for the compliments. I have truly come to respect this forum from my time lurking and posting and to hear comments like this from some of the heavy hitters on this site makes me feel very good. Thanks again for all your help and I''ll post pics as soon as I can.