Update: Jon & Kate

[Lynnie]

TLC made sure they drug it out as long as possible, didn''t they? They didn''t make their announcment till about 40 minutes in, right?

It is sad. Kate seemed a lot more upset than Jon. I don''t really know who holds more blame, and it''s really not my business anyway, but I can''t believe they''re going "on with the show". Literally. My heart aches for those kids, too.

News articles say they have approx 10 mil in assets, isn''t that enough??

 

[Bia]

Date: 6/22/2009 11:05:56 PM
Author: Lynnie
TLC made sure they drug it out as long as possible, didn''t they? They didn''t make their announcment till about 40 minutes in, right?


It is sad. Kate seemed a lot more upset than Jon. I don''t really know who holds more blame, and it''s really not my business anyway, but I can''t believe they''re going ''on with the show''. Literally. My heart aches for those kids, too.


News articles say they have approx 10 mil in assets, isn''t that enough??

It seems that most couples that participate in reality shows don''t make it...

I''m not trying to judge people I don''t know but I wonder if the show heavily contributed to the separation (?)

 

[Lynnie]

Bia,
I''m sure the show plays its part... It seems Kate wants the fame, and Jon doesn''t. I''m sure it played a major part in their decision to separate.

Wonder what would''ve been if K & J knew back then what they know now. Kids set for life but unhappy marriage vs. possibility of a happy life-long marriage with a lot of hardship. Tough call.

I guess once you get used to a certain lifestyle (which the show has given them), it''d be really hard to go back to average joes.

 

[Sha]

Well, Jon said he would still continue on with the Show. I would''ve thought this would have been his chance to bow out, if he really wanted to....but he didn''t.

Maybe the fame had a bit to do with it - but it seemed they''ve just grown apart a lot over the years. I''m sure a lot of that was caused by the stress of raising 8 children, and their different personalities - i.e Kate''s bossiness/controlling nature and Jon''s passivity.

I feel really sad too.....

I couldn''t believe when they actually said they were going to be separating - I had hoped it was just a ratings ploy and that at the end of the episode they would say they were going to try counselling or suspend the Show for a while, while working on things.

It does seem as though Jon is the one who really wants to end things legally.

So sad......

The last shots of them having Mother''s Day Brunch were so uncomfortable too. It was like they were pretending to be the same family, when they were not. Seemed like Jon and Kate hardly spoke at all during their brunch - they just spoke to the kids.

I wonder if the kids have picked up on that tension? Surely, at least Mady and Cara have noticed that they''re not talking like they did before?

I wonder how they''ll break the news to the children? That''ll be really hard.

 

[House Cat]

Take any other marriage, where there are 8 children involved. Have the father go out and have an affair, and then leave the family to go out and get earrings, a sports car, and a loft in NYC. Meanwhile, the mother is still there for the children.

Who's would be considered the jerk again? The mother?

I'm so sick of the Kate bashing. Whatever she is, at least she has always had her mind on her children, supporting those children, and finding a way to provide a life for those children. BTW, John agreed to ALL of it! He was right there. He's bailing out and he's a cad. He's no man. You can see it by the way he interacted with Kate. You can see it by the way he allowed all of his life decisions to be made for him. And you can see it NOW by the fact that he had an affair and is abandoning his family.

Yes, chalk me up to one who has no respect for John. I think he's a spineless child.

 

[Elmorton]

Date: 6/22/2009 11:31:51 PM
Author: Sha
I wonder how they''ll break the news to the children? That''ll be really hard.

I REALLY hope TLC has the decency to NOT show this on TV. That stuff should absolutely not be out there for the whole world to see.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 6/22/2009 11:44:05 PM
Author: Elmorton

Date: 6/22/2009 11:31:51 PM
Author: Sha
I wonder how they''ll break the news to the children? That''ll be really hard.

I REALLY hope TLC has the decency to NOT show this on TV. That stuff should absolutely not be out there for the whole world to see.

Oh they better not!!!

 

[OUpearlgirl]

Date: 6/22/2009 11:44:05 PM
Author: Elmorton

Date: 6/22/2009 11:31:51 PM

Author: Sha

I wonder how they''ll break the news to the children? That''ll be really hard.

I REALLY hope TLC has the decency to NOT show this on TV. That stuff should absolutely not be out there for the whole world to see.

If they did that I would never watch that show again.

 

[Elmorton]

agreed

 

[asscherisme]

I thought Jon came across like a world class jerk tonight. And I found something to distrct me from kate hair- jons earrings. I kept wondering if he had them before. And he had not one but two.

He seemed almost happy that he was going to gte out of the marriage.

And while Kate does have a strong personality and can rub people the wrong way for sure, like others have said, she seems liike the only adult in the relationship.

Even way back when before they were marrried, Kate was a working nurse and Jon was sort of putzing around without any direction.

And can anyone answer why Jon is looking for an apartment in NYC of all places? thats a heck of a drive from their PA home. Makes it kind of clear who the primary parent is going to be. Jon off partying in NY and then swings in for playtime with the kids.

Watching the episode felt almost voyeristic and was cringeworthy. Kate looked like she needed a hug and Jon looked like he would have preferred a beer.

 

[innerkitten]

Yes if he wanted out badly he would have quit the show. They probably ( both ) want to continue the show so they can support and raise the children. Eight kids is very expensive and the oldest two are in private school right?

 

[innerkitten]

I don''t know how to do quotes but if I could I''d quote House Cat. I agree with what she said.
My thoughts are Kate has to take charge, she has eight kids! I think she is doing a good job of holding it all together. I don''t know why people bash her either.

 

[asscherisme]

Date: 6/23/2009 12:17:51 AM
Author: innerkitten
I don''t know how to do quotes but if I could I''d quote House Cat. I agree with what she said.
My thoughts are Kate has to take charge, she has eight kids! I think she is doing a good job of holding it all together. I don''t know why people bash her either.

To quote someone, hit reply to the person you are trying to quote. Then on the left hand side, press the quote button that appears in blue. Their quote will appear in the reply form and you can type your response below it. Its reallly easy.

 

[innerkitten]

Date: 6/23/2009 12:27:24 AM
Author: asscherisme

Date: 6/23/2009 12:17:51 AM

Author: innerkitten

I don''t know how to do quotes but if I could I''d quote House Cat. I agree with what she said.

My thoughts are Kate has to take charge, she has eight kids! I think she is doing a good job of holding it all together. I don''t know why people bash her either.

To quote someone, hit reply to the person you are trying to quote. Then on the left hand side, press the quote button that appears in blue. Their quote will appear in the reply form and you can type your response below it. Its reallly easy.

Oh! Thanks

 

[asscherisme]

Your welcome

 

[laurenfischer5]

Finally people I agree with! I get so mad when I hear people say "Kate is so mean..Jon should have left her years ago" That''s ridiculous! I''m not trying to justify Kate''s behavior, but she has to be firm and organized if anything is going to be done...

Jon showed no emotion in tonights episode and even had the nerve to say he was "excited" about the new chapter in his life (which I found highly inappropriate) It''s obvious that the divorce was Jon''s idea (Kate even said a few episodes ago something like ''i can only speak for myself - Im here'' I took that as her saying she''s willing to stick around and work things out) And it upsets me that he said repeatedly that he is doing whats best for the kids...I have a hard time believing this is whats best for them...poor kids...

I was just so saddened tonight at the news. I know it was obvious what the ''announcement" was, but hearing it was hard...

 

[swingirl]

I think Jon's doing the show because they both signed a contract. Quitting might not be an option. I think TLC owns the house or at least has some ownership in it. TLC installed stage lighting in the house so they wouldn't have to haul around stand-alone lighting. When Kate is not with the kids she will be able to spend more time speaking and at book signings. She already is spending 3 weekends a month doing that and travels all over the place to cities much further away that NYC (which will be a 3 hour drive for Jon).

The saddest part about this divorce is that because neither of the adults would compromise, they only get to see their kids half time. And their kids lose the role model of a "married couple". I foresee them both being in spot light in the future.

Doesn't everyone who watched this show feel like they were lied to? They both admit there were problems early on and yet we were lied to about their renewed vows and even the show's opening statement. They faked their happy little life for the $75,000 per episode, free vacations, free-clothes, motorcycles, etc.

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 6/23/2009 12:17:51 AM
Author: innerkitten
I don''t know how to do quotes but if I could I''d quote House Cat. I agree with what she said.
My thoughts are Kate has to take charge, she has eight kids! I think she is doing a good job of holding it all together. I don''t know why people bash her either.

good parent DOES NOT= good spouse, that is why people bash her. She was a mean and nasty wife, which DOES effect children... they see it and learn from it. So yeah, she shares culpability. And if someone berated me for years like she did Jon, I would want to get out too. Seriously! And she''s a control freak, no way she would let him have the kids.

My dad told my mom when they got married that if they ever had kids, he would never let her take his kids away from him. Now, my parents are still happily together, but if they did divorce, my mom would not have fought for us. That might sound awful to some people, but I know that it has nothing to do with responsibility or my mom''s love for us... sometimes, that is just life.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 6/23/2009 12:29:00 AM
Author: innerkitten

Date: 6/23/2009 12:27:24 AM
Author: asscherisme

Date: 6/23/2009 12:17:51 AM

Author: innerkitten

I don''t know how to do quotes but if I could I''d quote House Cat. I agree with what she said.

My thoughts are Kate has to take charge, she has eight kids! I think she is doing a good job of holding it all together. I don''t know why people bash her either.

To quote someone, hit reply to the person you are trying to quote. Then on the left hand side, press the quote button that appears in blue. Their quote will appear in the reply form and you can type your response below it. Its reallly easy.

Oh! Thanks

LOL innerkitten, how long have you been on PS?

Go thee now to the "learn something new about PS" thread and report immediately!

 

[jjc]

Date: 6/23/2009 1:35:24 AM
Author: swingirl
Doesn't everyone who watched this show feel like they were lied to? They both admit there were problems early on and yet we were lied to about their renewed vows and even the show's opening statement. They faked their happy little life for the $75,000 per episode, free vacations, free-clothes, motorcycles, etc.

This is exactly how I feel. Those poor kids

 

[zhuzhu]

Not that I expect any reality TV show to be truthful, however in this case I am sadden because they have not only sold their own souls for the income, they have also sold the innocence and privacy of their children.

It is sad to see that they will continue this path, trading the collective dignity and privacy of this family to "keep up" the life style.

 

[beau13]

Date: 6/22/2009 11:55:24 PM
Author: asscherisme
I thought Jon came across like a world class jerk tonight. And I found something to distrct me from kate hair- jons earrings. I kept wondering if he had them before. And he had not one but two.

He seemed almost happy that he was going to gte out of the marriage.

And while Kate does have a strong personality and can rub people the wrong way for sure, like others have said, she seems liike the only adult in the relationship.

Even way back when before they were marrried, Kate was a working nurse and Jon was sort of putzing around without any direction.

And can anyone answer why Jon is looking for an apartment in NYC of all places? thats a heck of a drive from their PA home. Makes it kind of clear who the primary parent is going to be. Jon off partying in NY and then swings in for playtime with the kids.

Watching the episode felt almost voyeristic and was cringeworthy. Kate looked like she needed a hug and Jon looked like he would have preferred a beer.

Yes..nice earrings! HA!
I think Kate's hair is THE WORST hairstyle I've seen in my life. Does she actually think the "I had a fight with the whipper snipper, and lost" look, is a good look?
Good grief!

 

[steph72276]

Date: 6/22/2009 11:55:24 PM
Author: asscherisme
I thought Jon came across like a world class jerk tonight. And I found something to distrct me from kate hair- jons earrings. I kept wondering if he had them before. And he had not one but two.


He seemed almost happy that he was going to gte out of the marriage.


And while Kate does have a strong personality and can rub people the wrong way for sure, like others have said, she seems liike the only adult in the relationship.


Even way back when before they were marrried, Kate was a working nurse and Jon was sort of putzing around without any direction.


And can anyone answer why Jon is looking for an apartment in NYC of all places? thats a heck of a drive from their PA home. Makes it kind of clear who the primary parent is going to be. Jon off partying in NY and then swings in for playtime with the kids.


Watching the episode felt almost voyeristic and was cringeworthy. Kate looked like she needed a hug and Jon looked like he would have preferred a beer.

Huge ditto to all of this! I really have felt sorry for Jon in all of this until last night''s episode. I mean, really did he actually say he was "excited to start a new chapter"??? He is excited to divorce his wife of 10 years and move out of their house?? And what was up with his 1992 earrings? Gross. Does he think he is going to get all the ladies with that look? It doesn''t take away the fact that he is a single father of 8 kids. I don''t know anybody who would touch that (except maybe Angelina Jolie or Octomom)!

 

[Hudson_Hawk]

I agree with one thing Jon said and that was that doing this is in the best interest in the children in the long run. As a child of divorce (I was just about the age of the little ones) I am in full support of their decision. The kids are young enough to remember snippets of their parents living together, but not much. It''s easier for them to accept that it''s not their fault. Cara and Maddie may have a harder go of it. I was concerned when Jon said "I want my kids will know the real reason this happened." Which I took to mean he wanted them to know it was their mom/the show''s fault. I do not agree with placing blame on either parent in front of the children. Sure, blame it on the show, fame, or whatever, but never on the other person in front of the kids. And that goes for both J and K.

I''m disappointed in TLC for continuing the show through the divorce process. I feel like the family needs privacy to get through this in one piece.

 

[atroop711]

Date: 6/23/2009 7:58:42 AM
Author: steph72276

Date: 6/22/2009 11:55:24 PM

Author: asscherisme

I thought Jon came across like a world class jerk tonight. And I found something to distrct me from kate hair- jons earrings. I kept wondering if he had them before. And he had not one but two.



He seemed almost happy that he was going to gte out of the marriage.



And while Kate does have a strong personality and can rub people the wrong way for sure, like others have said, she seems liike the only adult in the relationship.



Even way back when before they were marrried, Kate was a working nurse and Jon was sort of putzing around without any direction.



And can anyone answer why Jon is looking for an apartment in NYC of all places? thats a heck of a drive from their PA home. Makes it kind of clear who the primary parent is going to be. Jon off partying in NY and then swings in for playtime with the kids.



Watching the episode felt almost voyeristic and was cringeworthy. Kate looked like she needed a hug and Jon looked like he would have preferred a beer.

Huge ditto to all of this! I really have felt sorry for Jon in all of this until last night''s episode. I mean, really did he actually say he was ''excited to start a new chapter''??? He is excited to divorce his wife of 10 years and move out of their house?? And what was up with his 1992 earrings? Gross. Does he think he is going to get all the ladies with that look? It doesn''t take away the fact that he is a single father of 8 kids. I don''t know anybody who would touch that (except maybe Angelina Jolie or Octomom)!

ITTA. I hated the way she would shout and talk to him in the past but last night he came across like an immature ass who couldn''t get out of there fast enough. When I heard the word excited come from his mouth I couldn''t believe it. What the hell is exciting about present situation? I actually felt for Kate....she seemed like this (divorce) is not what she wanted. I just hope they both can make this transition as seamless as possible (if that''s possible) for the kids.

 

[atroop711]

Date: 6/23/2009 1:39:48 AM
Author: trillionaire

Date: 6/23/2009 12:17:51 AM

Author: innerkitten

I don''t know how to do quotes but if I could I''d quote House Cat. I agree with what she said.

My thoughts are Kate has to take charge, she has eight kids! I think she is doing a good job of holding it all together. I don''t know why people bash her either.

good parent DOES NOT= good spouse, that is why people bash her. She was a mean and nasty wife, which DOES effect children... they see it and learn from it. So yeah, she shares culpability. And if someone berated me for years like she did Jon, I would want to get out too. Seriously! And she''s a control freak, no way she would let him have the kids.


My dad told my mom when they got married that if they ever had kids, he would never let her take his kids away from him. Now, my parents are still happily together, but if they did divorce, my mom would not have fought for us. That might sound awful to some people, but I know that it has nothing to do with responsibility or my mom''s love for us... sometimes, that is just life.

Trillionaire if Jon didn''t like the way he was being treated by his wife he should have divorced her..that would be the mature thing. When a man (or women) has an affair and blames their spouse that''s just sh!!ty. An affair is YOUR choice no one elses. If he''s an adult and unhappy in his marriage then you have choices...start counseling, separate or divorce (or maybe all 3 in that order). IMO when someone is unhappy and has an affair that''s not only immature but just selfish. In last nights episode he did come across immature to me..saying he''s excited about this new chapter. NICE choice of words...jerk

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 6/23/2009 1:39:48 AM
Author: trillionaire

good parent DOES NOT= good spouse, that is why people bash her. She was a mean and nasty wife, which DOES effect children... they see it and learn from it. So yeah, she shares culpability. And if someone berated me for years like she did Jon, I would want to get out too. Seriously! And she''s a control freak, no way she would let him have the kids.

My dad told my mom when they got married that if they ever had kids, he would never let her take his kids away from him. Now, my parents are still happily together, but if they did divorce, my mom would not have fought for us. That might sound awful to some people, but I know that it has nothing to do with responsibility or my mom''s love for us... sometimes, that is just life.

Yep, I''m surprised he didn''t leave a lot earlier. I was so uncomfortable watching how she treated him that I just couldn''t watch the show.

 

[february2003bride]

It took BOTH of them for this marraige to dissolve. Was Kate a hardass? YES! Unneccessarily rude towards Jon? God yes. But on the flip side, Jon just took the orders Kate threw at him for years. He said in last nights episode that he took her crap for years and now he''s not. So he finally found his b@lls but then decided to leave with them?

J&K are under contract for season 5 so they both have to participate. Jon wouldn''t walk away anyway, because as much as he complains, the show has given them a huge home, his new condo in Utah for skiing, free clothes for the whole fmaily, free vacations, new cars, a new apartment for Jon (or even a 2nd? Where will Kate stay when Jon is at the house during his visitation days?), and perks for the kids. I guarantee there will be a 6th season simply because they are so dependant on the show to continue the lifestyle they now have. Kate will probably write a couple of more books.

Another reason why there will be a 6th season (and that may be the last season) is because J&K did NOT put the sextuplets in kindergarten this year even though they are 5 years old now. Why? Kindergarten is Mon-Fri, possibly all day, which cuts into doing the show. They aren''t going to get much footage taping on just weekends and evenings.

And as a mom to 3 kids, I feel bad that the Gosselin kids aren''t enrolled in activity like soccer/tball/ballet, etc. My guess is, that "normal" part of childhood won''t happen for them (if at all) until the show is over.

 

[natalina]

Add me to the list of people disgusted by Jon (earrings, sports car, etc- what a dork). Could NOT believe the "I''m only 32" and excited to get on with his life comment. The way he was talking about having gotten married so young, then having all the kids, etc was like "oh, woe is me...I never got to be a kid myself." Give me a break. He CHOSE that life, whether pressured by Kate or not. It''s like, poor little baby, you have 8 beautiful healthy kids and more money that you could have imagined 10 years ago because of the decisions you made. Don''t act like you''ve been asleep for 10 years and just woke up to this life! So yeah, you put up with paparazzi and a lot of other crap, but it''s all a trade-off. He was just pathetic last night. So flippant and detached. I agree that Kate can be a bit much, but that''s no excuse for him to be acting the way he is. All I can say is, what a LOSER- and those poor kids. I am sure Kate will pull it together and take good care of the kids, because she''s a "figure it out and make it work" kind of person. But the kids will miss their dad, and that just sucks for them. And I do feel bad for Kate, too. She really seemed to be hurting and wanting to try to work things out, but Jon could not care less. I hope he gets a real shock when he really gets out in the dating pool. Seriously, you may only be 32 and you may have some cash- but you showed the entire world that you are a total a** who only cares about himself and who is obviously having a breakdown...oh yeah, sign me up for some of that

!

 

[NewEnglandLady]

What I took away from the show was:

1. Neither of them seem to care about the children. All they talk about is how everything is "for the children". If they''re willing to do so much for the children, why not try working on the marriage? I get that Kate is bossy, controlling and emasculating, but I also think she gets her role in the demise of the marriage. Jon is shutting down like a baby and is definitely immature, but I think that if Kate approached him and said "I''m sorry I treated you like crap, I take responsibility for that and I want to change", it would be a step in the right direction. I couldn''t care less that he was a young dad, it was his choice. He made his bed...

2. Jon''s behavior makes it pretty evident that there is somebody waiting in the wings. The man is going through a divorce and is going to see his kids HALF as much and he actually used the word "excited"? Are you kidding me?

Poor kids.