Two possibilities!!! (photos included!)

[Ellen]

Hope this helps give you an idea. And remember, my finger is bigger!

 

[Carlotta]

Date: 7/7/2006 1:29:07 AM
Author: jadeleaves

Date: 7/6/2006 8:26:32 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Yes, I think I'd be sad to lose the 1.63, although I think I'd be more eager to snap it up if it were 1.4 or 1.5. I did let a 1.35 H VVS1 go about a week or so ago. These stones do sell, so you can't wait forever to decide.

*hehe* did u say 1.5? what about this one?

Not much time to be on board here, but is Jade perhaps suggesting that this stone is one she is trading in to Jon (so will soon be in his inventory again????)
I remember that one....very nice (G, SI1 - inclusion easily covered by prong???)

Also wanted to add that those temp ring holders have huge, ugly prongs, which make it more difficult to judge size......
It's even possible that the two holders are different somewhat...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Ellen, your diamond and ring are absolutely gorgeous, seriously!! It is a very nice size!

Carlotta, oooooh, I did not have any idea what Jade might have meant. I do have a mind-clean issue on clarity, so I figured sticking with VS1 would mean I could avoid any doubts on clarity. I have narrowed down most everything, preferred color is high H or G, the clarity VS1 or VVS2, if all else is in order, and the size is the only thing that I haven''t seemed to settle..except that I know I like 1.4 since I tried one already and tried one on at Tiffany''s as well.

 

[Ellen]

ds, thanks! I picked a couple I hoped it wouldn''t make a lot of difference on in lighting, as my monitor is going out, so they probably look different to you all than they do me. Another reason I don''t want to post a bunch yet, til I get a new one.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 7/7/2006 2:23:43 PM
Author: Ellen
ds, thanks! I picked a couple I hoped it wouldn''t make a lot of difference on in lighting, as my monitor is going out, so they probably look different to you all than they do me. Another reason I don''t want to post a bunch yet, til I get a new one.

The pictures looked absolutely great, Ellen! You should post in Show Me the Riing! I am going to have to get another camera if I ever get a diamond!

 

[mrssalvo]

I honestly don''t see much a difference b/t the two either. I don''t know where you live DS or why the 1.6 is so bothersome to you but if you really would feel uncomfortable, go with the smaller stone. As you know, i''ve been indecisive on chosing a new setting. Going over all the pros and cons to each. It dawned on me that i shouldn''t have to talk myself into a setting. I either love it or I don''t. For most of us your decision is a no brainer, awesome bigger stone, but for you it''s not, so it might not be the stone for you. I know you''ve been waiting forever but maybe it''s worth it to wait a little longer and let Jon find you exactly what you want..your nobrainer stone.

 

[Oleander]

Just weighing in my opinion: In the pictures, the size difference is negligible, but I do understand your size dilemma. I am another person who is uncomfortable with sporting large stones--I''m probably overly sensitive about how I make others feel, but that''s me. With the stones you are looking at, they are so close, i would pick the one that excited me the most--perhaps that is the one with the better numbers for you, or maybe you might never be comfortable with the larger size. You should listen to yourself--it would be sad if you felt ashamed to wear your ring, so maybe the smaller one is the way to go.

Show of wealth can be a tricky thing. I used to live in a small rural town, and my in-law''s were wealthy, well-known people in the area. But they lived in a modest house, drove the least expensive smallest pick-up truck you could buy, and didn''t have fancy clothes. It would have been the kiss of death there for my FIL''s business to show he was wealthy--it would build too high a fence between him and his patients. It was better not to alienate people, and make them feel like he was robbing them blind.

Only you know if this type of social implication applies to you. Go with your gut.

Meanwhile, both of those stones are beautiful! Good luck in deciding.

 

[msdarlinjoy]

Hi Diamondseeker ~

I didn''t think that there would be a huge difference between the two. I personally think that once you get over 1.25 ... it takes alot to make a big jump in diameter to create visually a significant size difference.

As far as the clarity and how clean each stone is, Jonathan must know how picky you are about that particular issue, and I don''t think he would reccommend any stone that would not pass the most critical examination. I was the same way ... I didn''t want to look down at my diamond and as I put it to him ... "I don''t want to see any dust, or pieces of pepper, white or brown." The diamond that I got did have an inclusion, but was only barely visible by his trained eye, searching and staring ... and only visible from a bottoms up view, so once it was set, I knew that I wouldn''t be able to see it, and that made it ok for me.

I think no matter what stone you get, 1ct ... 1.40ct, 1.60 ct ... you are going to get compliments. What can I say ... one diamond

lover to another ... If I see a diamond ring that I think is beautiful, I am not going to hold back the compliment

... Gorgeous is Gorgeous and must be appreciated!

The difference is sooo small that I don''t think you will be dissapointed by either stone. Both are going to be gorgeous. Just like any piece of jewelry ... it seems big at first, but you get accoustomed to wearing that size, and before you know it ... your thinking ... this is perfect. (Or ... I need an upgrade!

)

You poor thing! I bet you''ve worn a path in the carpet from pacing

! Hey Mara, I''m gonna make a batch of that sangria, I''ll make enough for all of us to chill a bit!

Have a wonderful day

... keep smiling!

 

[dbgaap]

Get the big one!

It''s OK to become "the lady with the big diamond ring".


I have a similar mental hangup.
I have a 1.2 and I LOVE IT!

I also know I will push my limits and go bigger, maybe for a big anniversary (hubby said, "yeah, like a 3rd anniversary, right?" We have been married 1.5 years)

My motto is:

It''s OK to become "the lady with the big diamond ring".

 

[diamondseeker2006]

mrssalvo, I completely agree about neither one of us settling for a stone OR setting we don't love! I never realized how hard that would be...but I assume there is a stone for me for sure! At this point, I don't care if I set it in a Stuller tiffany setting! I'd be happy to resolve the diamond issue and be able to wear it even if I have to search longer for a "dream" setting.

Oleander...you get the size dilemma very well. Thanks!

Mrs DJ...you really do want us to have a little party, don't you?! Sounds like a great idea for a Friday evening!

dbgaap...Lol! I guess after almost 30 years I should not feel too bad about a 1.6, huh?

Okay everybody...I am having both stones sent to me to look at. Unfortunately it is too late to accomplish it today, so it'll be Tuesday before Jon can send them to me. So it'll be Wednesday before I get them.

I just want to thank you all for your advice and encouragement! I really do wish you all lived in my neighborhood!

 

[Sundial]

Well that is the smart thing to do DS. I just wish I could be there to play with diamonds with you!!!

 

[MissGotRocks]

Good for you DS! Then you can eyeball them both and make the best decision for you!

 

[Ellen]

Excellent! How exciting is that?? Can''t wait to hear your thoughts.

 

[diamondlove]

oh good! very exciting...you''ll have to share the details!

 

[mrssalvo]

yay DS. I''m sure once you see them you decision will be very clear to you..

 

[dbgaap]

Date: 7/7/2006 4:21:59 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
mrssalvo, I completely agree about neither one of us settling for a stone OR setting we don''t love! I never realized how hard that would be...but I assume there is a stone for me for sure! At this point, I don''t care if I set it in a Stuller tiffany setting! I''d be happy to resolve the diamond issue and be able to wear it even if I have to search longer for a ''dream'' setting.

Oleander...you get the size dilemma very well. Thanks!

Mrs DJ...you really do want us to have a little party, don''t you?! Sounds like a great idea for a Friday evening!

dbgaap...Lol! I guess after almost 30 years I should not feel too bad about a 1.6, huh?

Okay everybody...I am having both stones sent to me to look at. Unfortunately it is too late to accomplish it today, so it''ll be Tuesday before Jon can send them to me. So it''ll be Wednesday before I get them.

I just want to thank you all for your advice and encouragement! I really do wish you all lived in my neighborhood!

Honestly, DS, that''s why I have a Stuller setting!
I kept spinning my wheels over settings and I finally chose one that I could live with until something better comes along. I actaully do like it quite a bit.

You know, I guess I have always been indecisive. When my daughter was born, years ago, I could NOT make up my mind on her name and it was driving my (then) husband crazy. I finally agreed to a name that had the least counter-arguments against it.

 

[Gypsy]

That''s the best thing... um... where are you again? LOL.

 

[Kaleigh]

I''m so happy that both stones are being sent to you. You can take your time to evaluate them and see which one speaks to you. I wish you lived closer too!!

 

[jadeleaves]

Date: 7/7/2006 1:38:32 PM
Author: Carlotta
Not much time to be on board here, but is Jade perhaps suggesting that this stone is one she is trading in to Jon (so will soon be in his inventory again????)

I remember that one....very nice (G, SI1 - inclusion easily covered by prong???)

I was being cheeky and throwing another stone into the mix for diamondseeker

I don''t know if it''s against forum rules, (irina/leonid, pls delete if it is), but I am sending my 1.56 G Si1 RB back to GOG for a trade up to a bigger stone, so it will be back in Jon''s hands next wk if anyone is in the market for an extremely eye-clean G Si1 of that size. I''ve had it for since Feb last yr, and I cannot see the inclusions at all. Just thought I''ll mention it because diamondseeker has said she wants high clarity stones. I''ll see if I can dig up a pic of the collage I did for the hearts, arrows, clarity pics of the stone!

 

[jadeleaves]

Ok here are the pics:

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Thanks, everyone! I do think that is the only way for me to tell for sure. I have always been a little indecisive on certain things. I use Consumer Reports to help decide on things like electronics (or hubby decides!). But it is things like this that are hard for me. Especially since it is an expensive item and very subjective as to preferences. I had a pretty hard time deciding on baby names, too, dbgaap! Lol! It was like the last morning in the hospital (back when we used to stay 3 days) that we finally settled on the name of our firstborn son!

Come on over to NC, Gypsy! We''ll have a diamond viewing party. Hey, instead of Tupperware, I could get Jon to send a dozen stones for us to look at....home diamond party!

 

[Gypsy]

Watch what you offer hon... you just might get taken up on it! I live in NJ. Not that far to NY at all.

I'm actually planning on going to GOG on the 25th. I'm flying out to CA out of JFK late afternoon/ early evening so I thought I'd drive up early and stop in for a diamondgasm before I leave. Can't wait.
ETA: NC! North Carolina... NOT NYC... oops! DARN!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Jade, I apologize for the delay in responding to you! Apparently you were posting at the same time as I last posted, so I did not even see your posts until now! Now I understand what you meant! I don''t see a thing wrong with you posting a diamond that Jon will soon have in his inventory. It looks great! But on SI1''s, I for sure have to see them myself to know whether they''d bother me or not. I set VS1 as my goal so I wouldn''t have the clarity to worry about. I am sure there are plenty of SI1''s and VS2''s that would be fine if I could see them and sort through them. But this is so hard as it is, that I have to elminate as many potential problems as I can. Someone will be thrilled to get your stone, though! I imagine G SI1 at 1.5 is a sweet spot for many people!

Gypsy, awww, wish you could just stop by and help me! Or, I wish I could just meet up with you at GOG instead! Then I could really confuse myself looking at several diamonds! Jon is probably thinking, whew! Glad it''s Gypsy coming and not DS!!! Lol!

 

[MissGotRocks]

Date: 7/7/2006 6:23:03 PM
Author: jadeleaves
Ok here are the pics:

Not to hijack but what are you trading up to?

 

[Elagabalus]

I would never trust an in house gauge of colour clarity etc etc
Also, no one else is waiting to buy the other diamond. That is a ploy in order to get you to buy before comparing other stones from other sites or jewellers.
If I am selling my car and you come see it, if I say oh you better scoop this up because someone else I just saw is on their way to the bank to get the cash to pay me, but i''ll sell it to you if you take it right now, would you believe that someone else was driving to the bank?

In the unlikely possibility that that was the truth and you decided to think about it and the next day found the car sold, do you believe you couldnt find the same car somewhere else? Think of the piece of mind and satisfaction you''ll have if you waited and found a better deal somewhere else.

Diamond size is a matter of choice. Go for the best colour and best cut in your price range.
If a diamond a few specs smaller is better colour and cut go for it, the disco ball effect in your car when the sin hits your ring well be proof the advice I gave was sound. When an H and an E was compared to me I knew right away I had to have something in the colourless range (D<E<F<)

 

[jadeleaves]

Date: 7/7/2006 9:21:20 PM
Author: Elagabalus
Also, no one else is waiting to buy the other diamond. That is a ploy in order to get you to buy before comparing other stones from other sites or jewellers.

I beg to differ.

I think it is somewhat presumptuous of you to accuse the vendor of putting on a ploy to get diamondseeker to buy. GOG is a highly respected vendor on Pricescope, and will never put pressure on anyone to buy from them.

 

[jadeleaves]

Date: 7/7/2006 9:10:34 PM
Author: MissGotRocks
Not to hijack but what are you trading up to?

*sorry to hijack too*

I am trading up to another RB, in between 2.5 ct to close to 3ct. The stone hasn''t actually been found yet, but I have ''paid'' for it in the sense that I have wired money for the balance of the stipulated budget, and am sending the 1.56g Si1 back on Monday

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 7/7/2006 9:21:20 PM
Author: Elagabalus

Also, no one else is waiting to buy the other diamond. That is a ploy in order to get you to buy before comparing other stones from other sites or jewellers.

in many sales situations I'd agree with you. I don't however think GOG is making this one up for a sale. many times once someone lists a stone they are looking at here on PS someone else sees it and snatches it up if the original consumer didn't put a hold on it. I agree that DS shouldn't feel pressured into buying something she doesn't really want, but I'm confident if she passes there is someone waiting in the wings

DS has also worked with other vendors and has ended up liking the relationship she has with GOG. no trickery going on..

 

[jadeleaves]

Date: 7/7/2006 8:22:49 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Jade, I apologize for the delay in responding to you! Apparently you were posting at the same time as I last posted, so I did not even see your posts until now! Now I understand what you meant! I don''t see a thing wrong with you posting a diamond that Jon will soon have in his inventory. It looks great! But on SI1''s, I for sure have to see them myself to know whether they''d bother me or not. I set VS1 as my goal so I wouldn''t have the clarity to worry about. I am sure there are plenty of SI1''s and VS2''s that would be fine if I could see them and sort through them. But this is so hard as it is, that I have to elminate as many potential problems as I can. Someone will be thrilled to get your stone, though! I imagine G SI1 at 1.5 is a sweet spot for many people!

That''s ok! Yeah I posted the collage of my stone because I wanted to show u the clarity pics and tell you that I can''t see the inclusions at all. I have to loupe it at 20x and really squint to see it, but that''s only ''cos I know where they are.

I hope you find the rock of your dreams soon! I know stones in some sizes are hard to come by now - GOG has been looking for one for me for the past month and haven''t really had any luck finding something with the specs I want (with regards to color/clarity/size). Tim is naughty though, he sent me a cert of a 3ct H Si1, and I am tempted, VERY tempted. It won''t happen though, ''cos it is a tad beyond what hubby has said he wants to spend on this upgrade.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 7/7/2006 9:21:20 PM
Author: Elagabalus
I would never trust an in house gauge of colour clarity etc etc
Also, no one else is waiting to buy the other diamond. That is a ploy in order to get you to buy before comparing other stones from other sites or jewellers.
If I am selling my car and you come see it, if I say oh you better scoop this up because someone else I just saw is on their way to the bank to get the cash to pay me, but i''ll sell it to you if you take it right now, would you believe that someone else was driving to the bank?

In the unlikely possibility that that was the truth and you decided to think about it and the next day found the car sold, do you believe you couldnt find the same car somewhere else? Think of the piece of mind and satisfaction you''ll have if you waited and found a better deal somewhere else.

Diamond size is a matter of choice. Go for the best colour and best cut in your price range.
If a diamond a few specs smaller is better colour and cut go for it, the disco ball effect in your car when the sin hits your ring well be proof the advice I gave was sound. When an H and an E was compared to me I knew right away I had to have something in the colourless range (D

Welcome to PS, Elagabalus!

First of all, the stones are color graded by GIA and AGS to be H. Good Old Gold has a machine called a colorimeter which gives a color grade as well. If anything, it would be impartial. I have the photographs of the colorimeter results to the two stones. I''d post them, but I''d have to sort through a bunch of emails to find them. One stone scored a solid H and the other in the high H to mid G range. If for any reason I decide I need a higher color, I am sure I won''t have a problem choosing one. There are a couple of F stones I have my eyes on at GOG in the event I decide against these. I do have an F now and want to be sure I can handle an H. And all the stones are ideal/excellent cut, hearts and arrows stones.

Regarding someone else asking for that diamond, it was on hold for me. Apparently someone else was interested in buying it, but it was taken out of availability when I put it on hold. If anything, Jonathan would gain by pushing me to get the 1.37 so he could sell the 1.63 to the other person. I realize you don''t know him as I do, but I trust him 100%. Just as most of these ladies have recommended the 1.63 stone (and they have nothing to gain), he''d also like to see me get the best possible one. I don''t have access to looking at multiple ideal cut stones at one time where I live, so about the only thing I can do is to order them to look at and by trial and error find what my preferences are. Take a look at the Good Old Gold site sometime. You''ll find that no one offers more information on a stone than they do.