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ruby59|1488949154|4137935 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.


I can barely afford the $5,000 deductible we have now. And we have already been notified to be prepared for more changes to our insurance and premium.

Don't worry Ruby. The Republicans in charge will make changes to make sure your pre-existing conditions are either not covered, or are covered only under exorbitant prices. We have already seen in their past legislation (what they pushed through for ACA) that the profits of Insurance companies and drug companies come before American's access to healthcare.
 
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.

The ACA is not on its last breath. The only sites saying that are fake news.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/07/the-aca-isnt-in-a-death-spiral-its-undergoing-a-correction/?utm_term=.f196552d131b
 
Hi,

I think you are going to be in some shock, Ruby. This premium increases with age, and no subsidy, just tax credits which have cut the subsidy almost 60 percent. It will probably cost you more. But you knew that right? Your support of Pres. Trump knows no bounds or criticism. You will not complain, right. Obama bad, so all else good.

Annette
 
part gypsy|1488981122|4137983 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.

The ACA is not on its last breath. The only sites saying that are fake news.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/07/the-aca-isnt-in-a-death-spiral-its-undergoing-a-correction/?utm_term=.f196552d131b

The majority of the people commenting on that article don't believe the author. They are very interesting.
 
smitcompton|1488989571|4138016 said:
Hi,

I think you are going to be in some shock, Ruby. This premium increases with age, and no subsidy, just tax credits which have cut the subsidy almost 60 percent. It will probably cost you more. But you knew that right? Your support of Pres. Trump knows no bounds or criticism. You will not complain, right. Obama bad, so all else good.

Annette
I think they can now charge 5 (or maybe even 6?) times the base amount on account of age. So while my insurance could be $100 since I'm young (yeah, right! It'll be way higher) that means yours (I don't know your age, just anyone "older") could be $500. :clap:
 
redwood66|1488991569|4138026 said:
part gypsy|1488981122|4137983 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.

The ACA is not on its last breath. The only sites saying that are fake news.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/07/the-aca-isnt-in-a-death-spiral-its-undergoing-a-correction/?utm_term=.f196552d131b

The majority of the people commenting on that article don't believe the author. They are very interesting.

This is one of the things they were including in repeal of ACA, that there could be no analysis of how much it would cost to repeal the ACA. The problem is not that there is an ACA, but that it doesn't go far enough. There were many concessions made so that existing drug companies and insurance companies (why do we need this many insurance companies? They are a middle man that costs money!) would maintain profitability. We need to eliminate the middlemen and have a single payer system. That's the smart way to do it. Simply repealing the ACA is not going to help either access or affordability. In fact it will cost money and increase strain on the healthcare industry due to the number of uninsured, who still cannot be turned away for emergency services.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/50252
 
part gypsy|1488994459|4138040 said:
redwood66|1488991569|4138026 said:
part gypsy|1488981122|4137983 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.

The ACA is not on its last breath. The only sites saying that are fake news.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/07/the-aca-isnt-in-a-death-spiral-its-undergoing-a-correction/?utm_term=.f196552d131b

The majority of the people commenting on that article don't believe the author. They are very interesting.

This is one of the things they were including in repeal of ACA, that there could be no analysis of how much it would cost to repeal the ACA. The problem is not that there is an ACA, but that it doesn't go far enough. There were many concessions made so that existing drug companies and insurance companies (why do we need this many insurance companies? They are a middle man that costs money!) would maintain profitability. We need to eliminate the middlemen and have a single payer system. That's the smart way to do it. Simply repealing the ACA is not going to help either access or affordability. In fact it will cost money and increase strain on the healthcare industry due to the number of uninsured, who still cannot be turned away for emergency services.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/50252

Many people believe this was the intent in the first place knowing ACA would fail. It is very hard to get rid of an entitlement once people are on it - no matter how bad it is or costly for the rest of the country.
 
sstephensid|1488993204|4138034 said:
smitcompton|1488989571|4138016 said:
Hi,

I think you are going to be in some shock, Ruby. This premium increases with age, and no subsidy, just tax credits which have cut the subsidy almost 60 percent. It will probably cost you more. But you knew that right? Your support of Pres. Trump knows no bounds or criticism. You will not complain, right. Obama bad, so all else good.

Annette
I think they can now charge 5 (or maybe even 6?) times the base amount on account of age. So while my insurance could be $100 since I'm young (yeah, right! It'll be way higher) that means yours (I don't know your age, just anyone "older") could be $500. :clap:


I for one believe in carrying your own weight. Of course my insurance as an older woman with preexisting conditions should cost more than what my 30 year old healthy DIL pays.

I do not mind paying a little more if I can pick from a few choices that best suits me and my family.
 
smitcompton|1488989571|4138016 said:
Hi,

I think you are going to be in some shock, Ruby. This premium increases with age, and no subsidy, just tax credits which have cut the subsidy almost 60 percent. It will probably cost you more. But you knew that right? Your support of Pres. Trump knows no bounds or criticism. You will not complain, right. Obama bad, so all else good.

Annette


As I have already commented since of course people who use the insurance more should pay more.

I hated when it was on the backs of 20 and 30 years olds.

I believe in paying my own way and not expecting others to carry me.

All I want is a choice of policies so I can pick what best suits me.

As far as the subsidiary, or lack of, I never qualified for one under ObamaCare either.
 
part gypsy|1488980788|4137978 said:
katharath|1488919717|4137749 said:


This, this is INSANE. Where are the republicans who will stand up to Trump?


You do know this is not the final draft?
 
part gypsy|1488981007|4137980 said:
ruby59|1488949154|4137935 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.


I can barely afford the $5,000 deductible we have now. And we have already been notified to be prepared for more changes to our insurance and premium.

Don't worry Ruby. The Republicans in charge will make changes to make sure your pre-existing conditions are either not covered, or are covered only under exorbitant prices. We have already seen in their past legislation (what they pushed through for ACA) that the profits of Insurance companies and drug companies come before American's access to healthcare.

Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?
 
Since people are discussing the changes to ACA here, I wanted to clarify how it's possible to have hearings/meeting about a bill before anyone has discussed (or figured out) cost. Here's a quote from a CNN article I just read:

Democrats are complaining that the hearings are taking place before the Congressional Budget Office has a chance to "score" the House legislation, a process that will provide answers on how much it will cost and how many people it will cover.
Rep. Richard Neal, the top Democrat on the Ways and Means panel, cited the lack of the report as a reason the effort should be postponed. "To consider a bill of this magnitude without a CBO score is not only puzzling and concerning, but also irresponsible," Neal said.

Obviously I understand that Dems arent going to want these hearings to happen quickly, but I do think it's 100% reasonable to delay them until the CBO scores it (or whatever it's called when they determine how much it will cost and how many people will be covered). I dont understand how there can be any informed conversation about the proposed plan until that happens.
 
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?

You are right that it is not a charitable sentiment, ruby. I believe it must be an "I told you so" impulse, but I apologize. No one here wants to see you hurt. When the chips are down, we care about each other, even though we argue. I hope you and your family find a better plan than the one you had. That one was obviously a terrible burden.

Hugs,
(((ruby)))
Deb
 
AGBF|1488998784|4138064 said:
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?

You are right that it is not a charitable sentiment, ruby. I believe it must be an "I told you so" impulse, but I apologize. No one here wants to see you hurt. When the chips are down, we care about each other, even though we argue. I hope you and your family find a better plan than the one you had. That one was obviously a terrible burden.

Hugs,
(((ruby)))
Deb


I told you so - that is what I am not understanding.

Didn't the various channels cover the fact that this is not the final draft. That it is the way they had to word it to get it through initially, and then it will be worked on and go through two more additional versions.
 
ruby59|1489000403|4138081 said:
AGBF|1488998784|4138064 said:
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?

You are right that it is not a charitable sentiment, ruby. I believe it must be an "I told you so" impulse, but I apologize. No one here wants to see you hurt. When the chips are down, we care about each other, even though we argue. I hope you and your family find a better plan than the one you had. That one was obviously a terrible burden.

Hugs,
(((ruby)))
Deb


I told you so - that is what I am not understanding.

Didn't the various channels cover the fact that this is not the final draft. That it is the way they had to word it to get it through initially, and then it will be worked on and go through two more additional versions.

Let me make sure I'm clear on this: The AHCA (which I pronounce AhKah -- think cat coughing up a giant hairball) is going to be voted on and then after it's voted on it's going to get changed. So that's like buying a car and then once you get it home the dealer comes out in the middle of the night and swaps the rims and removes the sunroof and replaces it with a bolted on piece of steel.
 
Dee*Jay|1489000894|4138085 said:
ruby59|1489000403|4138081 said:
AGBF|1488998784|4138064 said:
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?

You are right that it is not a charitable sentiment, ruby. I believe it must be an "I told you so" impulse, but I apologize. No one here wants to see you hurt. When the chips are down, we care about each other, even though we argue. I hope you and your family find a better plan than the one you had. That one was obviously a terrible burden.

Hugs,
(((ruby)))
Deb


I told you so - that is what I am not understanding.

Didn't the various channels cover the fact that this is not the final draft. That it is the way they had to word it to get it through initially, and then it will be worked on and go through two more additional versions.

Let me make sure I'm clear on this: The AHCA (which I pronounce AhKah -- think cat coughing up a giant hairball) is going to be voted on and then after it's voted on it's going to get changed. So that's like buying a car and then once you get it home the dealer comes out in the middle of the night and swaps the rims and removes the sunroof and replaces it with a bolted on piece of steel.


No, not the same thing.
 
AGBF|1488998784|4138064 said:
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?

You are right that it is not a charitable sentiment, ruby. I believe it must be an "I told you so" impulse, but I apologize. No one here wants to see you hurt. When the chips are down, we care about each other, even though we argue. I hope you and your family find a better plan than the one you had. That one was obviously a terrible burden.

Hugs,
(((ruby)))
Deb

I have to quickly jump into the fray to acknowledge Deb's kind comment to Ruby.
Ruby, please don't overlook this gesture of good will.
Now...commence arguing :bigsmile:
 
Ruby, AARP and AMA are opposing the new GOP health care bill.
 
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
part gypsy|1488981007|4137980 said:
ruby59|1488949154|4137935 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.


I can barely afford the $5,000 deductible we have now. And we have already been notified to be prepared for more changes to our insurance and premium.

Don't worry Ruby. The Republicans in charge will make changes to make sure your pre-existing conditions are either not covered, or are covered only under exorbitant prices. We have already seen in their past legislation (what they pushed through for ACA) that the profits of Insurance companies and drug companies come before American's access to healthcare.

Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?
I'm not gleeful people will be hurt. That is why I find this so scary. This is why I "like" Obamacare even though it is not perfect. I want people to have access to healthcare. My clapping was sarcastic. Oh yes, anyone older can have 5x the cost yay! :angryfire:
 
sstephensid|1489005637|4138120 said:
ruby59|1488997131|4138056 said:
part gypsy|1488981007|4137980 said:
ruby59|1488949154|4137935 said:
Dancing Fire|1488948277|4137933 said:
ruby59|1488858040|4137443 said:
As far as Obama's so called signature achievement, insurance companies were running away from it in droves. It was imploding all on its own.

Many were forced to buy coverage they could not use because they could not afford the $5,000 - $10,000 or more deductible.

Like the Republicans said, allow us to buy the policy we want not the one shoved down our throats like what Obama did to us. Good riddance.
If I were the Republicans I'd let the ACA die by itself. Obama care is on its last breath.


I can barely afford the $5,000 deductible we have now. And we have already been notified to be prepared for more changes to our insurance and premium.

Don't worry Ruby. The Republicans in charge will make changes to make sure your pre-existing conditions are either not covered, or are covered only under exorbitant prices. We have already seen in their past legislation (what they pushed through for ACA) that the profits of Insurance companies and drug companies come before American's access to healthcare.

Why are you and another poster so gleeful that I will somehow be hurt in all of this?
I'm not gleeful people will be hurt. That is why I find this so scary. This is why I "like" Obamacare even though it is not perfect. I want people to have access to healthcare. My clapping was sarcastic. Oh yes, anyone older can have 5x the cost yay! :angryfire:


Have you not read my threads. The policy my husband and I have now under ObamaCare is crap. I am paying for something I basically cannot use. I have a $5,000 deductible and have been paying more and more out of pocket lately.

And we were just notified that to look out for changes in the coming mail.

So this "olster" is paying for a policy shoved down her throat that is basically useless.
 
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-robert-b-reich-three-possible-reasons-for-trump-s-latest-rant-20170307-story.html

The Liar in Chief is at it again. How many lies will it take for his supporters to wake up? He accused the former President of the US of a felony. He has no idea how the checks and balances of our country work. Supposedly he was asking on Sat night if he could hired an outside investigator to prove his lie. Would that be the same investigator he hired to track down Obama's birth certificate. The one that was giving all sorts of "interesting" info that Trump never released? It didn't seem to bother them that he lied about undocumented immigrants when he announced his run. It didn't bother them when he lied about 1000's of New Jersey Muslims cheering on 9/11. It didn't bother them when he lied about President Obama's citizenship for over 8 years. It didn't bother them when he accused Obama of being a Muslim. When he did that he wasn't saying it in any positive way, it was derogatory. He was branding the President an enemy of the US. It didn't bother them when he lied about voter fraud. It didn't bother them when he lied about his inauguration crowd size. The list goes on. He is a braggart and pathological liar. His defenders say he is a salesman and deal maker. This is the way a great salesman acts? It is not, my late husband was a senior VP at a Fortune 100 company and a great salesman. By saying that and giving a pass to his actions and behavior, you are smearing honest people that are able to make deals and not stoop as low as Trump has done during his whole life.

His supports looked past his nasty comments about women, the groping of women, walking into the Miss Teen America dressing room and bragging that the underage girls were in various stages of undress. If your daughter, sister or mother were one of these woman, would you be OK with it? Some have said they have overlooked these flaws in character because they want lower taxes, jobs or to stop abortion. Well if that is the case, would you then send the females of your family to a man that would verbally demean them, grope them and leer at them in their underwear, would you do it? If you would, you are a pimp!!!!

It comes down to the fact that if you believe any of these lies or even if you don't and you still support him, you need to look inside yourself. There are some things that can not be pushed under the rug. You can not pick and choose. Would you raise a child to have Trump's character?
 
NonieMarie|1489020694|4138223 said:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-robert-b-reich-three-possible-reasons-for-trump-s-latest-rant-20170307-story.html

The Liar in Chief is at it again. How many lies will it take for his supporters to wake up? He accused the former President of the US of a felony. He has no idea how the checks and balances of our country work. Supposedly he was asking on Sat night if he could hired an outside investigator to prove his lie. Would that be the same investigator he hired to track down Obama's birth certificate. The one that was giving all sorts of "interesting" info that Trump never released? It didn't seem to bother them that he lied about undocumented immigrants when he announced his run. It didn't bother them when he lied about 1000's of New Jersey Muslims cheering on 9/11. It didn't bother them when he lied about President Obama's citizenship for over 8 years. It didn't bother them when he accused Obama of being a Muslim. When he did that he wasn't saying it in any positive way, it was derogatory. He was branding the President an enemy of the US. It didn't bother them when he lied about voter fraud. It didn't bother them when he lied about his inauguration crowd size. The list goes on. He is a braggart and pathological liar. His defenders say he is a salesman and deal maker. This is the way a great salesman acts? It is not, my late husband was a senior VP at a Fortune 100 company and a great salesman. By saying that and giving a pass to his actions and behavior, you are smearing honest people that are able to make deals and not stoop as low as Trump has done during his whole life.

His supports looked past his nasty comments about women, the groping of women, walking into the Miss Teen America dressing room and bragging that the underage girls were in various stages of undress. If your daughter, sister or mother were one of these woman, would you be OK with it? Some have said they have overlooked these flaws in character because they want lower taxes, jobs or to stop abortion. Well if that is the case, would you then send the females of your family to a man that would verbally demean them, grope them and leer at them in their underwear, would you do it? If you would, you are a pimp!!!!

It comes down to the fact that if you believe any of these lies or even if you don't and you still support him, you need to look inside yourself. There are some things that can not be pushed under the rug. You can not pick and choose. Would you raise a child to have Trump's character?

Well, if you've seen any of my posts in here, you probably knew that I would agree with every word you wrote - and I do.

I like Robert Reich - here's a snip from the link you posted that pretty well sums it up:

"So there you have it. Whatever the reason for Trump's rant, America is in deep trouble. We have a president who is either a dangerous paranoid who's making judgments based on right-wing crackpots, or has in all likelihood committed treason, or is willing to sacrifice public trust in our basic institutions to further his selfish goals."
 
Hi,

I don't think anyone is trying to hurt Ruby. Ruby's rhetoric appears to tear down the ACA health Ins that others have finally been able to get, and wants to discard it because she pays a high. deductible. I suggest your income is much higher than those persons who desperately needed health insurance. In fact, why can't you just go out and buy your own. You believe people should pay their own way. So do it. Leave those less fortunate than yourself to their healthcare.

I do get medicare, but I pay out of pocket for supplemental which cost approx. $3,000 more for 20 percent coverage. I pay for drug insurance another 500 for not such great co-pays. I also pay for medicare, so my costs are over $6000 a yr. I take 5 meds.

That's why I wrote my post to Ruby. She doesn't seem to care about others.

Annette
 
smitcompton|1489021484|4138227 said:
Hi,

I don't think anyone is trying to hurt Ruby. Ruby's rhetoric appears to tear down the ACA health Ins that others have finally been able to get, and wants to discard it because she pays a high. deductible. I suggest your income is much higher than those persons who desperately needed health insurance. In fact, why can't you just go out and buy your own. You believe people should pay their own way. So do it. Leave those less fortunate than yourself to their healthcare.

I do get medicare, but I pay out of pocket for supplemental which cost approx. $3,000 more for 20 percent coverage. I pay for drug insurance another 500 for not such great co-pays. I also pay for medicare, so my costs are over $6000 a yr. I take 5 meds.

That's why I wrote my post to Ruby. She doesn't seem to care about others.

Annette


My husband took his job at the State, not because it paid comparison salaries, but because it had a good health plan. And he has worked there for over 35 years. So he worked for it and his salary is commensurate for the time he has put in. Neither he nor I need to apologize for that.

And why should we go out and pay for something that he has earned?

You see I am willing to pay for more based on my age and health. I do not expect 20 and 30 year olds to pay for me.

Neither do I care to pay for the able bodied who have never worked an honest day in their life and expect others to take care of them.

My husband will qualify for medicare this year but cannot leave work because (1) I am much younger than him and (2) so he can cover our two girls.

I am well acquainted with medicare and what it covers because I was the POA for my late mother and my husband is the POA for his mother.

As far as not caring for others, you do not know me, so stop assuming. As you have no idea what I do in the community.
 
NonieMarie|1489020694|4138223 said:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-robert-b-reich-three-possible-reasons-for-trump-s-latest-rant-20170307-story.html

The Liar in Chief is at it again. How many lies will it take for his supporters to wake up? He accused the former President of the US of a felony. He has no idea how the checks and balances of our country work. Supposedly he was asking on Sat night if he could hired an outside investigator to prove his lie. Would that be the same investigator he hired to track down Obama's birth certificate. The one that was giving all sorts of "interesting" info that Trump never released? It didn't seem to bother them that he lied about undocumented immigrants when he announced his run. It didn't bother them when he lied about 1000's of New Jersey Muslims cheering on 9/11. It didn't bother them when he lied about President Obama's citizenship for over 8 years. It didn't bother them when he accused Obama of being a Muslim. When he did that he wasn't saying it in any positive way, it was derogatory. He was branding the President an enemy of the US. It didn't bother them when he lied about voter fraud. It didn't bother them when he lied about his inauguration crowd size. The list goes on. He is a braggart and pathological liar. His defenders say he is a salesman and deal maker. This is the way a great salesman acts? It is not, my late husband was a senior VP at a Fortune 100 company and a great salesman. By saying that and giving a pass to his actions and behavior, you are smearing honest people that are able to make deals and not stoop as low as Trump has done during his whole life.

His supports looked past his nasty comments about women, the groping of women, walking into the Miss Teen America dressing room and bragging that the underage girls were in various stages of undress. If your daughter, sister or mother were one of these woman, would you be OK with it? Some have said they have overlooked these flaws in character because they want lower taxes, jobs or to stop abortion. Well if that is the case, would you then send the females of your family to a man that would verbally demean them, grope them and leer at them in their underwear, would you do it? If you would, you are a pimp!!!!

It comes down to the fact that if you believe any of these lies or even if you don't and you still support him, you need to look inside yourself. There are some things that can not be pushed under the rug. You can not pick and choose. Would you raise a child to have Trump's character?


Great post Nonie. I also agree with every word.
 
Calliecake|1489024367|4138241 said:
NonieMarie|1489020694|4138223 said:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-robert-b-reich-three-possible-reasons-for-trump-s-latest-rant-20170307-story.html

The Liar in Chief is at it again. How many lies will it take for his supporters to wake up? He accused the former President of the US of a felony. He has no idea how the checks and balances of our country work. Supposedly he was asking on Sat night if he could hired an outside investigator to prove his lie. Would that be the same investigator he hired to track down Obama's birth certificate. The one that was giving all sorts of "interesting" info that Trump never released? It didn't seem to bother them that he lied about undocumented immigrants when he announced his run. It didn't bother them when he lied about 1000's of New Jersey Muslims cheering on 9/11. It didn't bother them when he lied about President Obama's citizenship for over 8 years. It didn't bother them when he accused Obama of being a Muslim. When he did that he wasn't saying it in any positive way, it was derogatory. He was branding the President an enemy of the US. It didn't bother them when he lied about voter fraud. It didn't bother them when he lied about his inauguration crowd size. The list goes on. He is a braggart and pathological liar. His defenders say he is a salesman and deal maker. This is the way a great salesman acts? It is not, my late husband was a senior VP at a Fortune 100 company and a great salesman. By saying that and giving a pass to his actions and behavior, you are smearing honest people that are able to make deals and not stoop as low as Trump has done during his whole life.

His supports looked past his nasty comments about women, the groping of women, walking into the Miss Teen America dressing room and bragging that the underage girls were in various stages of undress. If your daughter, sister or mother were one of these woman, would you be OK with it? Some have said they have overlooked these flaws in character because they want lower taxes, jobs or to stop abortion. Well if that is the case, would you then send the females of your family to a man that would verbally demean them, grope them and leer at them in their underwear, would you do it? If you would, you are a pimp!!!!

It comes down to the fact that if you believe any of these lies or even if you don't and you still support him, you need to look inside yourself. There are some things that can not be pushed under the rug. You can not pick and choose. Would you raise a child to have Trump's character?


Great post Nonie. I also agree with every word.

+1000 :appl:
 
lovedogs|1489025853|4138249 said:
Calliecake|1489024367|4138241 said:
NonieMarie|1489020694|4138223 said:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-robert-b-reich-three-possible-reasons-for-trump-s-latest-rant-20170307-story.html

The Liar in Chief is at it again. How many lies will it take for his supporters to wake up? He accused the former President of the US of a felony. He has no idea how the checks and balances of our country work. Supposedly he was asking on Sat night if he could hired an outside investigator to prove his lie. Would that be the same investigator he hired to track down Obama's birth certificate. The one that was giving all sorts of "interesting" info that Trump never released? It didn't seem to bother them that he lied about undocumented immigrants when he announced his run. It didn't bother them when he lied about 1000's of New Jersey Muslims cheering on 9/11. It didn't bother them when he lied about President Obama's citizenship for over 8 years. It didn't bother them when he accused Obama of being a Muslim. When he did that he wasn't saying it in any positive way, it was derogatory. He was branding the President an enemy of the US. It didn't bother them when he lied about voter fraud. It didn't bother them when he lied about his inauguration crowd size. The list goes on. He is a braggart and pathological liar. His defenders say he is a salesman and deal maker. This is the way a great salesman acts? It is not, my late husband was a senior VP at a Fortune 100 company and a great salesman. By saying that and giving a pass to his actions and behavior, you are smearing honest people that are able to make deals and not stoop as low as Trump has done during his whole life.

His supports looked past his nasty comments about women, the groping of women, walking into the Miss Teen America dressing room and bragging that the underage girls were in various stages of undress. If your daughter, sister or mother were one of these woman, would you be OK with it? Some have said they have overlooked these flaws in character because they want lower taxes, jobs or to stop abortion. Well if that is the case, would you then send the females of your family to a man that would verbally demean them, grope them and leer at them in their underwear, would you do it? If you would, you are a pimp!!!!

It comes down to the fact that if you believe any of these lies or even if you don't and you still support him, you need to look inside yourself. There are some things that can not be pushed under the rug. You can not pick and choose. Would you raise a child to have Trump's character?


Great post Nonie. I also agree with every word.

+1000 :appl:

BUT HER EMAILS

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ruby59|1489022659|4138235 said:
...You see I am willing to pay for more based on my age and health. I do not expect 20 and 30 year olds to pay for me...

Then you have no understanding of how insurance works. The concept of insurance is to spread risks and costs so that the insured and insurers remain solvent.

Even the new AHCA has the 20 and 30 year olds paying for you and other old people: why do you think they've put in the 30% penalty if folks don't keep continuous coverage? This is the stick that will incentivize the young, presumably healthy, people to be insured and remain insured.

The AHCA in its current form will shift more of the cost to older folks by allowing old folks premiums to be much higher (up to 5x vs 3x under ACA) than the young'uns. Because the oldies are paying more, insurance companies can lower the youngsters' premiums even more -- it's another way to persuade them to become insured. Even though each young individual pays less, it will be positive if a lot of them sign up.

If you really don't want others to pay for you and don't want to pay for others, then you should pay actual cost...without insurance (i.e. all the other insured people subsidizing your healthcare costs).
 
J.K. Rowling' response to the Commander In Tweet's early morning message:

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J.K.'s message isn't as clearly displayed on the screen as I would like so let me put it out here in plain text. And thank you Ms. Rowling for reminding us what has been chosen to run this country. God bless America.

**edited by moderator, no profanity please**
 
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