Trump's 4 year old grandchild

[ruby59]

Did I miss where the child is aware of this happening at all? I have a five-year-old, and I can tell you that his awareness ends about an inch past his own arm.

The child/ren probably aren't aware of it, until someone makes them aware of it ... just like they (at 5 yrs old) probably aren't aware of abortion until they're drug to a pro-life/pro-choice rally, or discrimination until their parents or teachers practice it at home/in school.

They learn what they see, little sponges that they are.

Isn't that why some on here explained why they wold take their very young children to the Women's March.

I guess very young kids know all the lady parts but not when others are being mean to them?

 

[monarch64]

Do people actually send 4 year olds to school already? Jeeze

My daughter has attended preschool since she was 3. Kids can't start K here until age 5. She knows how to read and write, some simple math, and Spanish. I started Kindergarten when I was 4 and graduated high school at 17. Things have changed since then, unfortunately. A lot of people here hold their children back or time pregnancies to get a competitive edge in sports--how messed up is THAT?

Her preschool isn't "free" like public school, either. So yeah, if I had had the option to send her to kindergarten at 4 and save about $9k, I would totally do it.

 

[ruby59]

Do people actually send 4 year olds to school already? Jeeze

They should be on their second language by then. Slackers!


It may be that 4 yr olds are attending a pre-K program. When mine went, it was a half day. Also, depending on the child's birthday, they may start Kindergarten at 4 if they are turning 5 in the next month or so.

Here in Rhode Island we now have all day kindergarten.

My girls were born in late September and early October, so they started when they were still 4.

 

[AGBF]

Monnie-

After having read several people telling you they were sorry for your circumstances, I finally went back and found out what they were. I am sorry that your marriage broke up, but happy that you are satisfied with the transition.Transitions are hard, and I wish you all the best in growing, which can be painful as well as, sometimes, exciting. I also wish your daughter all the very best. She is more than lucky to have you as a mother, of course, but change sometimes takes a toll on children that they do not express verbally. I will always remember that wonderful picture of you two having a tea party!

Major hugs,
(((Monnie & child)))
Deb

 

[the_mother_thing]

Isn't that why some on here explained why they wold take their very young children to the Women's March.

I guess very young kids know all the lady parts but not when others are being mean to them?

Personally, I wouldn't take my young child to an event like that. My g-pop took me to a pro-life event when I was about 6 or 7, and it was horrific seeing the signs with pictures and things that people had. If I wouldn't let my kid watch a 'blood & guts' movie, I wouldn't take them somewhere that they'd be exposed to it IRL. But every parent has a different idea of what's acceptable, I guess. As Kenny says, 'people vary'.

 

[monarch64]

Monnie-

After having read several people telling you they were sorry for your circumstances, I finally went back and found out what they were. I am sorry that your marriage broke up, but happy that you are satisfied with the transition.Transitions are hard, and I wish you all the best in growing, which can be painful as well as, sometimes, exciting. I also wish your daughter all the very best. She is more than lucky to have you as a mother, of course, but change sometimes takes a toll on children that they do not express verbally. I will always remember that wonderful picture of you two having a tea party!

Major hugs,
(((Monnie & child)))
Deb

Aww, thanks Deb! We have, in conjunction with staff at her school, been observing our daughter carefully throughout the transition. We live in close proximity (walking distance) of each other and have tried to maintain every semblance of normalcy. If anything, we have noticed improvement in her focus and behavior! Not a ton of difference, but noticeable just the same. I attribute this to there being far less tension in our respective households because he and I are not living under the same roof now. Also I want to say that "satisfied" does not cover it. I would say I'm "overjoyed." We enjoyed several good years together, but I don't think it was ever meant to be a forever thing, not romantically anyway. So instead of two somewhat dissatisfied parents, our kiddo now has two happy ones, and I think that is far more important than trying to force things in an effort to make HER happy. I have been there, done that with my own parents (who are still married after 46-ish years and don't even like each other) and YUCK. No, thanks. We haven't had any disputes since separating and during our temporary custody hearing lawyers and the judge remarked that they were pleasantly surprised to deal with a couple who weren't being petty jerks to each other. So I feel like we're doing a good job, and doing so with the best interests of our child at heart. Thanks for reminding me about the tea party--it's time for another one soon, now that you mention it!

 

[ruby59]

From reading your posts Monarch, I have found you to be a very strong woman who knows what she wants and goes after it.
You are definitely a woman of conviction.

With you as her mother I am sure your daughter will thrive.

My best wishes to you.

 

[Tekate]

Let it go Ruby. They're ganging up on you simply because you have concern for a child who is being ostracized - sick. Instead of showing concern, understanding or empathy, they become hostile - a bunch of self-righteous women.

If you're all so educated, self sufficient, confident, etc.; then why can't you take the time to see what others are saying? Why become so radical and obnoxious? Really? Are men so terrible that the mention of them gets you so riled up? Ruby is simply stating her opinion about a news article. Why all of the hate? And becoming so hateful simply because you felt that she referred to you as Liberal Women? Why? Aren't you liberal women? I just don't get it - can't you have a discussion and simply state your opinion? If you're so Pro-women then try to see the opinion of other women.

The child is NOT being ostracized. The rich parents don't want their kids to hang out with kids they think will influence their child. Isn't that one of the reasons why the right wants school choice? to be able to have their children educated and influenced by better education and people?

Another poster stated they have been in contact with these types of rich people. so have I, I can guarantee you it's not the worry that their children will become liars, or female part grabbers, or wear their hair weirdly, it's because they want their live-in whomever to be able to pick their child up and get them to Chinese lessons, piano lessons, flute lessons, gymnastics, skating, Hebrew lessons, whatever, my grandniece goes to a school in Brooklyn that movie starts and hip hop rich people send their children to, it's a MADHOUSE of traffic, papparazzi etc.. my nephews rich wife wants her kid to go to this school, and she's Canadian, but once my grandniece can't make it to Hebrew school Im sure she will be out.. it's all about the convenience or inconvenience for the Nanny or the parents.

Rich people have rights too, they have a right to privacy, if they feel their child's privacy is going to be infringed on, off they go.. to get into these schools you have to have at least 8 - 9 million, they live in 2-100 million dollar homes.. they are famous, etc. it's a different world.

To say that poor little Spencer is being discriminated against is hardly true.

Tekate,

I just want to say, I know exactly what school you're talking about. Been there, done that.

Very rich people! my nephew married a very rich lady

 

[monarch64]

From reading your posts Monarch, I have found you to be a very strong woman who knows what she wants and goes after it.
You are definitely a woman of conviction.

With you as her mother I am sure your daughter will thrive.

My best wishes to you.

Thank you so much, Ruby. That means a lot.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Monarch - I am sorry to read of your separation, but glad you & the hubs are handling it responsibly & maturely for your daughter. I so relate to your situation because it's exactly what my ex & I did when we parted - very amicabley, very maturely, and always making DD #1. And we remain great friends today. My heartfelt wishes for a continuing amicable path as you all go through this transition in your lives.

(Hugs)
JCJ

 

[monarch64]

Monarch - I am sorry to read of your separation, but glad you & the hubs are handling it responsibly & maturely for your daughter. I so relate to your situation because it's exactly what my ex & I did when we parted - very amicabley, very maturely, and always making DD #1. And we remain great friends today. My heartfelt wishes for a continuing amicable path as you all go through this transition in your lives.

(Hugs)
JCJ

Thanks, JoCoJenn. Just imagine being married to a liberal-it would be like you and me living in the same house. Hahaha!

 

[the_mother_thing]

Thanks, JoCoJenn. Just imagine being married to a liberal-it would be like you and me living in the same house. Hahaha!

I actually dated a liberal once ... ONCE!

 

[redwood66]

Thanks, JoCoJenn. Just imagine being married to a liberal-it would be like you and me living in the same house. Hahaha!

I actually dated a liberal once ... ONCE!

I have been married so long that I cannot even remember if I ever did. I was probably not thinking about that kind of thing at 20-23. I was thinking about other things.


Edited - Monnie So glad for you and your daughter - and your ex - that things are working out great. Being happy and having happy parents means a lot to a kid.

 

[katharath]

Monarch - nothing but admiration and respect for you!! Sorry I'm late to the party

 

[partgypsy]

I don't even understand this thread.

Trump is the president of the United States. His tweets are insane, embarrassing, often contain lies, oops, sorry, alternative facts (massive voter fraud, anyone), and potentially pose international danger.

Are we implying the idiotic comments of a couple of mothers of 4 year olds are worthy of the same amount of horror? Or are we just pausing to say their behaviour is awful? Because of the comments of these two (or ten) women, are we tarring all anti-Trump voters with intolerance equivalent to the intolerance necessary to vote for a man who is happy to take away the rights of women and the lgbtq community (note: see Mike Pence) and immigrants and workers? Who has installed a white supremacist in the White House? Oh right, makes total sense.

Plus as far as I can tell, she didn't want her kid going there with him. She wasn't saying the Trump kid shouldn't go there. Maybe she's a lesbian or an immigrant and feels personally victimised by Trump. And as far as I can tell, actually, her point wasn't that he shouldn't be included in birthday parties, etc. It was that she didn't think she could deal with that, so she wasn't going to send her kid.

I've had kids in NY private schools. I've got news for you- they've got a waiting list as long as your arm (not to mention birthday party policy at that age- if there is one, the whole class is invited). So fine, she makes her decision, pulls her kid and someone else is happy to take up their place.

Who cares?

Thank you for the note of sanity.

 

[partgypsy]

I don't know how low people will go over this because I won't even open the link you posted. Honestly posting a thread about it is just perpetuating and publicizing it, so not sure why you would post this unless it's to get a rise out of people or encourage further pearl-clutching?

Going after children is sick and wrong. I don't even know anything about Trump's son Barron because I couldn't bring myself to read about it. I have a small child. And when my husband ran for office I could barely stomach the thought of crap like this.

But isn't that what a lot of threads do (especially political ones)? - encourage more pearl-clutching?
I understand that (some) people have an interest in discussing politics and that's fine, but many threads seem to be about getting a rise out of people and/or fanning the flames of sensationalized media.
I might not have interest in this thread topic, but I think it has a place here with all of the other political threads. I prefer to reduce my exposure to politics in general, so I didn't click on the links either, but I really don't see this thread as being any different than any others (except for the fact that it's on the other side of the fence of the popular opinions here).
And even though I quoted you monarch, I wasn't picking on your post in particular - I was just responding to the overall questioning about why this thread exists.

^This is why this thread is here. It is interesting to see the reaction to this thread from all of those who post in the endless Trump threads. As I have said before, Hangout is not your personal Trump bashing forum.

Monnie I am sorry that you are going through this difficult time in your life. I wish you the best.

Thanks, Red. I appreciate your kind words. I do have to say, though, that this has been a period of personal growth and happiness for me and none of it has been negative. Things ran their course, it was time to move on, and everyone involved is transitioning well and we are happy.

I'm glad you are in a better place and that you both can work together for your child's sake.