Torn - setting

[Kellyco]

I’m very frustrated and not sure what to do. I have a 1.19 carat princess cut ACA. I was set on the Vatche Caroline. But now I’ve seen stock photos that don’t seem to match up with the photos I’ve seen here especially the glamour shots. I really loved the curves of the head/prongs around the stone. I was settling on the diamonds in the gallery bar because I’d prefer they not be there (to remove them it would cost me $980 more).

Now I’m wondering about the legato sleek line. At first glance it wasn’t my favorite. It’s kind of grown on me. I like the profile view, the lines are really pretty. I’m not sure how high the shoulders go, it seems kind of low. I’m also not sold on the drastic (to me) taper. It seems to go from a tiny point to fat shank really quickly. I’d prefer it 1.8mm-2.3mm, more subtle. Which I’m sure is possible. I just don’t want to drive WF any crazier until I know what to do.

I like cathedral shoulders to “crawl” up the side of the stone, high but not too high and not low.

I am very picky about the width of the ring at 2.3mm ideally and I really want a nice head for the stone. I feel like the options for round stones are so much more and it would be easier.. but I am picky or maybe just indecisive. I’m making myself crazy I am eager to have my ring back on my finger but want to make the right decision. I’ve searched everywhere but it would be easiest to get the setting from WF.

I also prefer whichever one sits up higher / diamond height. Allowing room for a band to sit flush.

Attached are stock pics of the Caroline with a 1 carat princess. I don’t see the curvy prongs like I imagined. And the shank looks different to me too. I’ll attach other shots I’ve seen too which made me really like this setting.

 

[Kellyco]

Stock photo with 1 carat princess

 

[Kellyco]

Curvy head and shank I like
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[Kellyco]

Love the shank on this Caroline. My concern is will mine look like this???

 

[Sabrina31]

Since you have a very specific idea in mind, it may be worth going custom

 

[SimoneDi]

I sorry but I am confused.. can we please try to recap;
1. You like when the shanks curves when meeting the basket?
2. You want or don’t want diamonds in basket?
3. You like or don’t like a reverse tapered look? (This is the legato that you are asking for in your other thread)?

The example that WF has sent you has a knife edge, I would ask for another pic because this is a modified version of the setting.

 

[kmarla]

Did you take a look at either of these settings? The Alegria is 1.8mm and has a nice curve through the prongs. The Lyric says it’s 1.3mm, but I think that must be at it’s narrowest point where the shank meets the head. It also has curvy prongs The bonus with both these settings is that there isn’t any pavé since you don’t want that.

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1608.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-for-princess-cut-diamonds-by-vatche-1757.htm

 

[Kellyco]

I sorry but I am confused.. can we please try to recap;
1. You like when the shanks curves when meeting the basket?
2. You want or don’t want diamonds in basket?
3. You like or don’t like a reverse tapered look? (This is the legato that you are asking for in your other thread)?

The example that WF has sent you has a knife edge, I would ask for another pic because this is a modified version of the setting.

1 yes
2. I prefer not
3. My husband likes this look. I am unsure. Idk what it would look like on me but I guess I don’t love the reverse taper. I like it more subtle as I’ve seen on other rings.

I asked about the knife edge because I didn’t think it was and Vatche said it is available only in knife edge. It may have been available in non knife edge in the past but not anymore. So maybe if I ask for it to be made like the old style.. that would be custom and I’m not sure how much they’d charge. I assumed the pics from here are all knife edge and just polished differently (idk what to think). I was told the ring (in the pics) looks the same as all the others.

Edit to add— Also even if I ask for it to be made like it used to be, they are claiming the knife edge is the standard and always has been and “if done otherwise it must have been custom”

 

[Kellyco]

Did you take a look at either of these settings? The Alegria is 1.8mm and has a nice curve through the prongs. The Lyric says it’s 1.3mm, but I think that must be at it’s narrowest point where the shank meets the head. It also has curvy prongs The bonus with both these settings is that there isn’t any pavé since you don’t want that.

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1608.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-for-princess-cut-diamonds-by-vatche-1757.htm

Thank you for your help. I have seen these and was sent pics of a similar one (Inara i think). The shank is extremely thin. I want to stay above 2mm, ideally 2.2-2.3.

I guess I’m looking for input on whether the Caroline will look like the pictures or not. I don’t hate the diamonds in the basket, although I don’t prefer it.

The legato almost seems like a safe choice because 1- it’s practically half the price (once I pay the extra to get v prongs on the Caroline). 2- it’ll be done quicker. 3- everyone here seems to LOVE it. Sorry if I sound crazy.

 

[Kellyco]

If you look at the princess cut glamour pics above (someone on pricescope posted that) it does look knife edge. I’m told the knife edge is extremely subtle, almost not identifiable.

But to me all the shanks look flatter on the sides whereas the stock photo just doesn’t... to me. But I am told it does in real life.

 

[kmarla]

I don’t think you’re crazy at all! You’re the one who will be wearing this ring and you need to be happy. I thought you were concerned about the Legato and being able to find a band that is symmetrical. I need my bands to line up symmetrically as well! I personally really like the Caroline and it was on my short list in the past. I just want to make sure you know that Whiteflash can order you any setting from their various designer’s websites, so you’re not limited to what you see on the Whiteflash site.

 

[Kellyco]

I don’t think you’re crazy at all! You’re the one who will be wearing this ring and you need to be happy. I thought you were concerned about the Legato and being able to find a band that is symmetrical. I need my bands to line up symmetrically as well! I personally really like the Caroline and it was on my short list in the past. I just want to make sure you know that Whiteflash can order you any setting from their various designer’s websites, so you’re not limited to what you see on the Whiteflash site.

Yeah I’ve looked and looked. :/ I was also concerned about the band with the legato. Once that was settled, I need to decide if I want that or the Caroline.

 

[kmarla]

They’re both great choices. Your ring will be beautiful either way!

 

[SimoneDi]

1 yes
2. I prefer not
3. My husband likes this look. I am unsure. Idk what it would look like on me but I guess I don’t love the reverse taper. I like it more subtle as I’ve seen on other rings.

I asked about the knife edge because I didn’t think it was and Vatche said it is available only in knife edge. It may have been available in non knife edge in the past but not anymore. So maybe if I ask for it to be made like the old style.. that would be custom and I’m not sure how much they’d charge. I assumed the pics from here are all knife edge and just polished differently (idk what to think). I was told the ring (in the pics) looks the same as all the others.

Edit to add— Also even if I ask for it to be made like it used to be, they are claiming the knife edge is the standard and always has been and “if done otherwise it must have been custom”

Ok, thanks for clarifying, it all makes sense now.

A few points- you will be wearing the ring, you need to be happy with it, although I do understand that you want your husband to like it as well. I once returned a band because my husband disliked it.

I think that the CS person is probably confused and not thinking outside of the box. WF can order any Vatche design. Have you looked on Vatche’s site? I found this one (style1562) and it appears to be vey much what you are looking for: http://www.dvatche.com/index.php?page=collection&catID=3,11&startRow=30&id=234&alt=1

Lastly, I much prefer this setting for princess cuts over the legato. The reverse taper I find more suitable for round stones and I dislike the gap that it creates with any non-matching bands, but that is my opinion.

 

[Kellyco]

Thank you @SimoneDi
I did also look and I saw this one
http://www.dvatche.com/index.php?page=collection&catID=3,11&startRow=78&alt=2

Traditional princess cut
However I have no idea any specs on it or what it will really look like. wf doesn’t carry it so unsure what it looks like IRL. I asked but can’t get real pics which I need to know if I like it. There is a round version on WF and I don’t like it. But not sure if that is just a computer pic or what (I think so).
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...onal-round-solitaire-engagement-ring-5049.htm

 

[Kellyco]

I also had emailed Vatche about that setting on their site and didn’t get a response. The cad pics look so different from IRL how do I just order it?!

 

[Kellyco]

I’d love some input from people with the Caroline ) is it knife edge? Pics?

Do you think the ring really look like the glamour shots? I have gotten past the pave in the basket, I really love the glamour shots. We are going to send Vatche the princess shots to show them how I want it. Curvy prongs, the shank as pictured. (But then is it just the angle of the shots that gives it that look??)

My husband still prefers the legato lol. We just had a convo and he likes the taper. I should say I recently asked for his input because I’m having such a hard time. Before he would say “whatever you want.” It’s almost easier for me to go with what he likes. I do want his input. He would like me just to be happy. He also is confused why I would get something so similar to what I’ve had before since I don’t like it..... my old ring is boxy and bulky, wider - (which is why I want to change) but otherwise the style is similar.

If I thought it was doable i night just put my new stone in this setting for now but im not sure it can be done. The stone is bigger and the prongs seem kind of crooked. And my husband says “no because you don’t like that ring” lol

It would be temporary obviously.

 

[kmarla]

The Caroline was a rounded shank, not knife edge, when I was interested in buying it. I just took a look at all the pics on the Whiteflash site and they are definitely rounded shank. Just ask Whiteflash to confirm for you.