thoughts on this stone from GOG

[scott32]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2054/


It seems to be a little deep campared to its table diameter. It also has flouresence, which might be a good thing in this H color stone. Good Gemex, and I have a feeling it is an isee2 as well. a 1.4 I think on HCA. Any thoughts about what its worth??? Thanks.

 

[strmrdr]

Cut of that one is one of my absolute favorite combos and super tight too.

 

[strmrdr]

.20 variation on the crown and .06 on the pavilion WOWSERS :}
40.97 average on the pavilion right in my sweet spot
34.24 crown average is perfect for the pavilion angle.

 

[Carlotta]

Date: 6/25/2006 9:55:16 PM
Author:scott32
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2054/


It seems to be a little deep campared to its table diameter. It also has flouresence, which might be a good thing in this H color stone. Good Gemex, and I have a feeling it is an isee2 as well. a 1.4 I think on HCA. Any thoughts about what its worth??? Thanks.

Are you the one who has it "on hold?"

 

[strmrdr]

79.3 lgf% perfect

 

[strmrdr]

downside:
Your paying extra for the high clarity.

 

[strmrdr]

textbook true h&a is always good.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/25/2006 10:11:13 PM
Author: Carlotta

Date: 6/25/2006 9:55:16 PM

Author:scott32

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2054/



It seems to be a little deep campared to its table diameter. It also has flouresence, which might be a good thing in this H color stone. Good Gemex, and I have a feeling it is an isee2 as well. a 1.4 I think on HCA. Any thoughts about what its worth??? Thanks.

Are you the one who has it ''on hold?''

LOL good question.
Got excited cuz it isn''t often that I see a diamond that hits all my sweet spots.

 

[aljdewey]

...

 

[scott32]

NO,
but I''m calling GOG tommorrow to see if it is still available. I''m looking for arond a 1.75 ct stone. I agree, I don''t need VVS1, however finding a stone in those dimensions are tough. I would take a VS2, and rather have an F/G for the color. I''m sure an H of this cut will face up as good as an F, and with its cut probably look like a 2ct stone in size. Its GEMEX and Sarin look good

 

[msdarlinjoy]

Date: 6/25/2006 9:55:16 PM
Author:scott32
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2054/


It seems to be a little deep campared to its table diameter. It also has flouresence, which might be a good thing in this H color stone. Good Gemex, and I have a feeling it is an isee2 as well. a 1.4 I think on HCA. Any thoughts about what its worth??? Thanks.

I don''t really know what''s it worth ... I say it''s worth what your going to pay for it!

Hey, but I got to say ... that is a very nice diamond

... for your sake, let''s hope your the one who has it on hold!

Pretty dang nice bscope too!

Have a great day!

 

[strmrdr]

btw it isn''t an isee2 brand diamond.
its a GOG Classic cut by the primary cutter of them.
I will however score 9.8 on the isee2 id bet on it.
Cut wise they dont come better that that one.

isee2 uses a slightly different combo for their branded stones and an AGS cert.

 

[scott32]

hmmm,
I l,ooked at another isee2 and i am pretty certain is was GIA certified..SO, based on this cut, you would say that an H with med blue will face up in a platinum setting white??? You can tell the cutter by the numbers?? Wow. who does most of the cutting at GOG?? I will most likey use them or WF. However, the thing I like about GOG is I can actually drive down there and look at the stone in person....You are getting me excited though.....

 

[diamondseeker2006]

They have a 1.6 H VS1 for $14,000, so you can get an idea that it would be more than that. I''m guessing around $17,000.

 

[scott32]

stmrdr,
Oh, while Im at it. How do you think itd compare to an 8star??

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/25/2006 10:51:13 PM
Author: scott32
stmrdr,

Oh, while Im at it. How do you think itd compare to an 8star??

have Jon pull one out and compare while your there.
I don''t like the looks of 8* at all but see for yourself.

Isee2 might be using some GIA certs but that one isn''t one of em.
Last I heard they weren''t.

GOG has 2 cutters of GOG classics and carries 3 other cutters h&a diamonds.
It varies but mostly what he has is GOG classics until they sell out and its between resupplies.
Then he has the more facet rounds he also carries.
I can separate them out by the certs and DiamXray images usually into which cutter cut them.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The Isee2 diamonds can''t be sold on the internet, so he can''t put any of those on the site. I am considering one.

Storm, what do you think of the Isee2 branded diamonds, out of curiosity?

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/25/2006 11:06:51 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
The Isee2 diamonds can''t be sold on the internet, so he can''t put any of those on the site. I am considering one.


Storm, what do you think of the Isee2 branded diamonds, out of curiosity?

They have some very very nice diamonds.
They usualy arent as tight as the GOG classics and one other cutters diamonds he carries but compared to the average h&a they are right on target.
Id buy one.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Thanks, Storm! I''ll run the numbers by you if Jon likes the stone.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/25/2006 11:20:21 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Thanks, Storm! I''ll run the numbers by you if Jon likes the stone.

post the helium report pdf file.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 6/25/2006 10:42:56 PM
Author: strmrdr
btw it isn''t an isee2 brand diamond.

its a GOG Classic cut by the primary cutter of them.

I will however score 9.8 on the isee2 id bet on it.

Cut wise they dont come better that that one.


isee2 uses a slightly different combo for their branded stones and an AGS cert.

Hey strm, thought you might find this of interest. I have an Isee2 graded by GIA. Maybe they''re sending to both now.

CA 34.10 Dev 0.49
PA 40.95 Dev 0.19

Not quite as tight as the one posted, but not too shabby either.

And may I say, extremely bright and visually stunning. I can see why you like this combo.

 

[scott32]

GOG no longer has the stone.....it has been sold. Sounds like it was a good one......Still, If I am looking at H, as I think a stone cut this well will face up much better, I can get a larger stone for the money. SHould I look for one with flouresence???

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/26/2006 11:43:28 AM
Author: scott32
GOG no longer has the stone.....it has been sold. Sounds like it was a good one......Still, If I am looking at H, as I think a stone cut this well will face up much better, I can get a larger stone for the money. SHould I look for one with flouresence???

flouresence is fine I like med in mine but its not a big deal either way.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/26/2006 11:05:11 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 6/25/2006 10:42:56 PM

Author: strmrdr

btw it isn't an isee2 brand diamond.


its a GOG Classic cut by the primary cutter of them.


I will however score 9.8 on the isee2 id bet on it.


Cut wise they dont come better that that one.



isee2 uses a slightly different combo for their branded stones and an AGS cert.

Hey strm, thought you might find this of interest. I have an Isee2 graded by GIA. Maybe they're sending to both now.


CA 34.10 Dev 0.49

PA 40.95 Dev 0.19


Not quite as tight as the one posted, but not too shabby either.

And may I say, extremely bright and visually stunning. I can see why you like this combo.

anything under .20 on the pavilion is kick butt when it comes to being tight.
Very very few diamonds will have it.

Thanks for the heads up on the gia cert.

 

[Ellen]

You''re welcome!

 

[jasontb]

Date: 6/25/2006 11:00:22 PM
Author: strmrdr


GOG has 2 cutters of GOG classics and carries 3 other cutters h&a diamonds.

Can you explain what this means? GOG carries stones from 5 different cutters? What''s a GOG classic?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

All vendors have multiple sources from which they can buy diamonds. The classic cut is like this:

 

[Ellen]

Date: 6/26/2006 11:05:11 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 6/25/2006 10:42:56 PM

Author: strmrdr

btw it isn''t an isee2 brand diamond.


its a GOG Classic cut by the primary cutter of them.


I will however score 9.8 on the isee2 id bet on it.


Cut wise they dont come better that that one.



isee2 uses a slightly different combo for their branded stones and an AGS cert.

Hey strm, thought you might find this of interest. I have an Isee2 graded by GIA. Maybe they''re sending to both now.


CA 34.10 Dev 0.49

PA 40.95 Dev 0.19


Not quite as tight as the one posted, but not too shabby either.

And may I say, extremely bright and visually stunning. I can see why you like this combo.

I just realized I put the dev for the diameter, not the CA. lol

Should be 0.07. Better.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 6/26/2006 7:53:34 PM
Author: jasontb

Date: 6/25/2006 11:00:22 PM

Author: strmrdr



GOG has 2 cutters of GOG classics and carries 3 other cutters h&a diamonds.

Can you explain what this means? GOG carries stones from 5 different cutters? What''s a GOG classic?

Yes in just h&a rounds, all selected by Jon to meet his performance specs and most designed by him.
Count the rest and it goes up into the 20+ range.

GOG classic is Jon''s favorite set of specs that he has sold for years.
low 34 crown angle
high 40s pavilion angle
78-80% lgf
57-62% stars
no painting
tightly cut
true h&a
very little to no twist on the facets
ex/ex sym/polish
They usualy score tripple vh on the b-scope and 9.5+ usualy 9.7 or 9.8 on isee2 with picture perfect red scope images.

There are some other considerations in the spec.
The info is all in the helium pdf files for anyone that cares too check it out.

 

[sillyboy]

strmrdr,
The stone originally posted here was purchased by myself about 2 weeks ago for the fiance. I did not know it was still on the GOG website. It is currently in the hands of MM being set, and I hope to have it very soon. I found GOG to be great to deal with. As much as I did to educate myself, there is only so much I could learn in my 3 months looking for a stone. The reason I chose GOG was beecause after meeting them, I felt I could trust them. I was not sure I would get the best deal, but I knew I would get a fair deal, and that the stone they sold me would be of high quality..I asked them straight out...what is the best stone you have for x dollars. I looked at three, and picked this one. I would have preferred a VS1 over VVS1 but it is very tough to find a stone of this cut in this size. On a lighter note, she is an eye surgeon, and has some lens of 75x for looking into the back of the eyeball. I am sure her colleagues will put it to the test, but I was reallyjust looking for eye clean. A few things about the stone...It actually IS an Isee2 stone, and is graded by GIA. It is an H with med FL, and I could not tell the difference between an equivalent cut F and this H even side by side. Could I have seen the diff with a D side by side?? Maybe. But it is damn white even before being set.
I looked at a solasfera, and an * star at another jeweler. As well as the Simon G lumiere. The 8 star looked great, but for the same price i would have settled with an SI1 in a G 1.58. I could not compare side by side, but Ithought this Isee2 looked a little better than the 8 star. When I looked at the 8star, i could only compare it to some average cut stones. I am sure this stone will look outstanding in the MM setting, and I can not wait to get it. My fiance has no idea, and though she grew up in the town over from MM I do not think she know of him...However that will soon change......I appreciate the thoughts on the stone.

SH