Thoughts on this 3.01 H VS2?

[MikeJones281]

I'm looking for advice on a stone that I've seen in person, but I don't have any images of. It looked great to my untrained eye, but the HCA of 2.3 has me reconsidering. I think it's priced appropriately, and living in Canada, being able to see the stone before purchasing is a huge advantage. With that said, I am willing to spend a little more if I have to. I've attached the GIA report and the HCA calculation. I have tentatively committed to the stone, but have not yet paid for it.

I realize that I'm not providing a lot of information, but any insight will be greatly appreciated.

 

[rocku]

I like it, but aim not expert

 

[SB621]

I was always under the impression that the HCA helps, but just because a diamond falls outside of the ideal 2> shouldn't be discounted. With something like 2.4 I personally wouldn't worry about it- especially if you are getting a deal (meaning you find diamonds online with similar stats for the same if not cheaper). Do you mind sharing the price.

 

[MikeJones281]

Thanks Sarah.

I'd be getting it for $53k US. B2C has a similar one with an HCA over 3 for a few dollars less, but as I mentioned, I attach significant value to being able to see it without importing it myself (as it would be a hassle to get the taxes refunded if I decide to return it). Additionally, I struggled to see inclusions with a loupe, and although the B2C stone is also a VS2, the plot in the certificate looks much less desirable.

 

[04diamond<3]

I personally, would spend a bit more to get a top quality stone. This one has a perfect ideal scope and aset image!!! And it's stunning! The size is also bigger:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/3.288-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703001#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

or spend significantly less for something smaller (hardly):

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.801-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703005#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/4/

 

[SB621]

Just personal preference but I would drop down to an eye clean Si1 to either go larger, go higher in color or to just save money. I know many prefer to have a VS1 or better but honestly I coud care less if I see includsions with a 10x loup- all I care about is it being eye clean.

Sorry to get on my soap box but my DH (then BF) basically looked around for months trying to find an IF diamond when we were getting engaged because the sales person told him it was the most important C. I had to put an eye clean SI1 next to an IF for him to see there was no difference via the naked eye. This obviously opened up a larger inventory to us and I ended up getting a D SI2 which was stunning and I loved it 100X more then the G IF we were initally looking at. Anyhow different things are important to different people but just wanted to bring this up. You GF might want a larger or more colorless diamond so don't discount a good SI1 or even sometimes a great SI2 if you are open.

 

[MikeJones281]

I personally, would spend a bit more to get a top quality stone. This one has a perfect ideal scope and aset image!!! And it's stunning! The size is also bigger:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/3.288-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703001#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

or spend significantly less for something smaller (hardly):

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.801-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703005#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/4/

Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually been talking with Brian for months; looking for something over 3ct in the VS range. My only concern with the 3.288 above is that it seems like it's priced very high for an SI1. I understand that there's generally a pretty significant price drop from VS2 to SI1, and the BG stone is priced well above the other <2.0 HCA H SI1s when I search. Should I not let this bother me and pay such a premium for BG Signature Series? I know the stones below aren't all entirely comparable, but they do provide some illustration of other stones available.

 

[04diamond<3]

I personally, would spend a bit more to get a top quality stone. This one has a perfect ideal scope and aset image!!! And it's stunning! The size is also bigger:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/3.288-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703001#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

or spend significantly less for something smaller (hardly):

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.801-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703005#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/4/

Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually been talking with Brian for months; looking for something over 3ct in the VS range. My only concern with the 3.288 above is that it seems like it's priced very high for an SI1. I understand that there's generally a pretty significant price drop from VS2 to SI1, and the BG stone is priced well above the other <2.0 HCA H SI1s when I search. Should I not let this bother me and pay such a premium for BG Signature Series? I know the stones below aren't all entirely comparable, but they do provide some illustration of other stones available.

Well, this is quite a bit bigger than the one you posted. And although the screen shot you posted shows lower prices (and only for stone smaller than the ones I suggested, not to mention the 2.8 is less), is that they're from a vendor who doesn't provide pictures or idealscope images let a lone aset images. I think they may have started showing pictures, but still I'd never suggest buying from a place that doesn't have video's or pictures/idealscope image/aset image. You're spending a LOT of money. I wouldn't spend it on a place like them.

Not to mention, it's hard to find a stone as big as you with that's a perfect cut! With BDG's are!!!!! the SI1's on his site are clean (which as others have mentioned, it'd be worth taking an SI1). You should still always make sure it's eye clean. With AGS graded stones (that BGD has not the other vendor), you do not need to run the HCA tool on them...they're cut to perfection. That's why IMO, it's worth spending a bit more for a bigger, significantly better cut stone....it's up to you.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I personally really love H VS2. I know some people don't care about clarity, but I like excellent cut and at least very good color and clarity especially for an e-ring stone. I think that diamond is probably fine, but we could give you a much more reliable answer if you had an idealscope image or even a magnified image of the stone. And by the way, you just can't tell about inclusions by the report, you have to see the stone with your eyes. And in a stone that large, I would want VS, personally (for that matter, I buy VS in any size). But many choose lower clarity to get a larger size stone for the same money.

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

Seems like a lovely stone. I love the 55 table. Post pics after you go to see it.

 

[tyty333]

I bet that stone (H VS2) is fine. The numbers arent that far off. An idealscope would help. Make sure to check it out in all
kinds of lighting. Its probably a very pretty stone to most of the population...its usually only PSers that have to have perfection!

 

[two_little_birds]

If I was spending this much money I would definitely want to see an idealscope image.

The BG stone is beautiful, but I too prefer a VS clarity - especially for a larger stone / engagement ring.

 

[MikeJones281]

Thank you for all the replies.

The dealer provided me with Sarin reports, which resulted in GIA Excellent, and AGS 0 grades. I am not sure how much weight to put into these, but would again appreciate any insight from those more knowledgeable than myself!

 

[JulieN]

Numbers are fine. HCA will be under 2 with the new set of numbers, but 2.3 is not a problem.

 

[MikeJones281]

Is this kind of variation from the original GIA report normal?

 

[JulieN]

yes.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Looks fine to me.