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Thoughts on this 2.5 ct RB?

boardrider8887|1388715402|3585233 said:
What are your thoughts on this 2.5 ct RB? Priced at ~23k which I think it pretty good value for that size.

My concerns with it are the 41 degree pavilion angle and the inclusions on/near the table.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2945662.htm

Thanks!
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AGSL Ideal cut, should be no worry....SI1, need to make sure that it is eye clean, 2.5 is a large stone, so ask and explain what you want as far as 'Eye Clean'
 
Should be a nice stone - would check with WF about the eye cleanliness though.
 
That's a whole lotta rock for a really good price! :appl:
 
boardrider8887|1388715402|3585233 said:
What are your thoughts on this 2.5 ct RB? Priced at ~23k which I think it pretty good value for that size.

My concerns with it are the 41 degree pavilion angle and the inclusions on/near the table.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2945662.htm

Thanks!
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My concerns with that large of a stone would be the clarity! I'd suggest going higher on clarity because inclusions tend to be more visible on larger stones:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/2.42-carat-j-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-272370
 
I spoke with WF last week and it is not eye-clean within their eye-clean policy. Also, the inclusions are on the table/near the table so they won't be prongable either. Should a non eye-clean SI1 at this size be a deal killer? My hope was that the cut and performance would be able to "hide" or "mask" these inclusions.

Can the experts on this forum please chime in if the inclusions from the pictures will be very noticeable in a day-to-day environment?
 
What you should have written is can the 'experts' as there are no experts on this forum. This is a consumers forum. Vendors cannot talk about another vendors stone unless you hear from an expert appraiser who is sometimes answering questions on the forum. All the other posters are 'experts' as in just customers like you but maybe with some more experience.
 
boardrider8887|1388767750|3585550 said:
I spoke with WF last week and it is not eye-clean within their eye-clean policy. Also, the inclusions are on the table/near the table so they won't be prongable either. Should a non eye-clean SI1 at this size be a deal killer? My hope was that the cut and performance would be able to "hide" or "mask" these inclusions.

Can the experts on this forum please chime in if the inclusions from the pictures will be very noticeable in a day-to-day environment?
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Anyone with more experience than you could be considered an "expert" as they know more than you. You've gotten excellent advice from people that have been here a long time. If you're not interested in our advice, then don't take it.
 
boardrider8887|1388767750|3585550 said:
I spoke with WF last week and it is not eye-clean within their eye-clean policy. Also, the inclusions are on the table/near the table so they won't be prongable either. Should a non eye-clean SI1 at this size be a deal killer? My hope was that the cut and performance would be able to "hide" or "mask" these inclusions.

Can the experts on this forum please chime in if the inclusions from the pictures will be very noticeable in a day-to-day environment?[/quote]

HI:

Only you can decide if these inclusions +/- location would be bothersome. Have the stone shipped to you and decide IRL.

cheers--Sharon
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canuk-gal|1388782703|3585733 said:
boardrider8887|1388767750|3585550 said:
Can the experts on this forum please chime in if the inclusions from the pictures will be very noticeable in a day-to-day environment?[/quote]

HI:

Only you can decide if these inclusions +/- location would be bothersome. Have the stone shipped to you and decide IRL.

cheers--Sharon
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Sharon is right... eye clean can have different meanings to different individuals. I would just have them send the stone so you can see for yourself if it is acceptable to your eyes.
 
boardrider8887|1388767750|3585550 said:
I spoke with WF last week and it is not eye-clean within their eye-clean policy. Also, the inclusions are on the table/near the table so they won't be prongable either. Should a non eye-clean SI1 at this size be a deal killer? My hope was that the cut and performance would be able to "hide" or "mask" these inclusions.

Can the experts on this forum please chime in if the inclusions from the pictures will be very noticeable in a day-to-day environment?
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Did you not see this stone??

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2938301.htm

It's hardly smaller than the other for the same price and definitely eye clean. Plus, the ideal scope and aset images look better on this stone! I'd ask WF about it (if you're interested).
 
It appears I've touched some of you the wrong way with my expert statement. I'm simply asking for opinions and help from the forum as a whole as I know most of the heavily involved members have a vast knowledge of diamonds and everything that goes into making a decision.

As for the J VS2, it does look cleaner, but my concern was the J color. I'm having trouble picking my second highest priority after cut. I know she wants as large as possible, but I don't want to get something that appears yellow or has very noticeable inclusions.

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
 
boardrider8887|1388971405|3587100 said:
It appears I've touched some of you the wrong way with my expert statement. I'm simply asking for opinions and help from the forum as a whole as I know most of the heavily involved members have a vast knowledge of diamonds and everything that goes into making a decision.

As for the J VS2, it does look cleaner, but my concern was the J color. I'm having trouble picking my second highest priority after cut. I know she wants as large as possible, but I don't want to get something that appears yellow or has very noticeable inclusions.

Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
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The J won't face up yellow at all!!!!! From the side view it's possible you'd notice a little tint, but seriously, nothing to worry about! If you look up (do a search) of other threads of those that have J colored stones, they all say that it faces up so white ( a lot of cases much whiter than they thought). You can also ask WF for an honest opinion on the color and they will tell you. I personally think that sacraficing the color, for a cleaner, bigger stone is worth it (as would many others on here). Ask them if you're interested.
 
I didn't mean to offend, but I notice lots coming here asking for expert advice and this is what I used
to do but when I first was on these boards there were more appraisers giving advice. I just thought that
giving the big purchase you are making that I wanted you to know that most here do not have professional
qualifications in jewellery or gemmology.

It is an individual choice the color and if your girlfriend is out of the loop I would go with a safe color such as
G rather than a J. If she knows get her to look at GIA certified J color stones at your local jeweller to see
what she is comfortable with.

I myself would not go to a J, I did once and returned it as I did not like the color from the side, I don't like H
either but chose this for ear studs as I figured no one would see, I would prefer a G or higher in a ring.
It is a personal choice though some here are comfortable with below J to get size and especially in old cut
diamonds as they feel they look old like antique lace.
 
I remember Dave Atlas an appraiser on this board once answering someone on what he thought was
a good choice for a diamond clarity and color and he said G VS2.
 
Just read that 'she wants as large as possible', I would go H VS2 then or see it they have a high I.
I think Diamondseeker2006 got a high I and her stone is over 2 carats, she had another I to look at
before that and she found it to be too low so there is a difference in each grade. Her stone is an
old cut type but she wanted to stay in a high color category as it is an engagement ring. I think
a high I would be your best choice if you can get a jeweller to say it is. I know good old gold can
tell from their machine if the stone is a high or low of the same color grade. I know though that the
labs used human eyes but that is something good old gold can do and maybe whiteflash and the others
too.
 
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