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Hey Lorelei, is the crown height % on this radiant diamond too small. seems like a good diamond it should be higher.
 
Date: 5/22/2008 9:16:54 AM
Author: kmick
Hey Lorelei, is the crown height % on this radiant diamond too small. seems like a good diamond it should be higher.
I would go by WF''s advice if the crown height works for this particular diamond Kevin. There have been posts in the past saying that basically the higher the crown height, the more sparkly or fiery the diamond, but apparently this isn''t always the case, or as simple as that unfortunately. Crown height is good to know, but not an overall deciding factor regarding performance. Personally I wouldn''t worry too much, but see what Tracy says how this diamond is overall.
 
Date: 5/22/2008 9:20:57 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 5/22/2008 9:16:54 AM
Author: kmick
Hey Lorelei, is the crown height % on this radiant diamond too small. seems like a good diamond it should be higher.
I would go by WF''s advice if the crown height works for this particular diamond Kevin. There have been posts in the past saying that basically the higher the crown height, the more sparkly or fiery the diamond, but apparently this isn''t always the case, or as simple as that unfortunately. Crown height is good to know, but not an overall deciding factor regarding performance. Personally I wouldn''t worry too much, but see what Tracy says how this diamond is overall.
man i need an expert to let me know whats up with the crown height. i appreciate your advice, but im a numbers/stats man, especially since i cant see the diamond and have to rely on someone trying to sell it to me. sorry lorelei, im thinking of passing on this guy. sooo close!
 
Date: 5/22/2008 10:10:05 AM
Author: kmick




Date: 5/22/2008 9:20:57 AM
Author: Lorelei





Date: 5/22/2008 9:16:54 AM
Author: kmick
Hey Lorelei, is the crown height % on this radiant diamond too small. seems like a good diamond it should be higher.
I would go by WF's advice if the crown height works for this particular diamond Kevin. There have been posts in the past saying that basically the higher the crown height, the more sparkly or fiery the diamond, but apparently this isn't always the case, or as simple as that unfortunately. Crown height is good to know, but not an overall deciding factor regarding performance. Personally I wouldn't worry too much, but see what Tracy says how this diamond is overall.
man i need an expert to let me know whats up with the crown height. i appreciate your advice, but im a numbers/stats man, especially since i cant see the diamond and have to rely on someone trying to sell it to me. sorry lorelei, im thinking of passing on this guy. sooo close!
I understand! But I wanted to say this - please don't place too much importance on the crown height should a stunning diamond you love come up, and the crown height isn't within the range you want. There have been posts where the crown height has been very much emphasized in some instances, but it seems some of the experts say it is good to know, but really not a reliable indication that a diamond will be an excellent performer with good fire - it isn't as simple as that unfortunately. But if you can find one which ticks all your boxes with the crown height etc, then that is great! I just don't want you to miss out on some potentially gorgeous stones which may not quite add up in the numbers department, as you know, radiants don't fall under the usual rules!

Also read expert Oldminer's post on crown height here, you may find it useful. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/requesting-advice-on-radiants.82731/

But not to worry if you do pass on this diamond. The time you have spent researching has brought you that much closer to finding the right diamond, so it has been a valuable experience!
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Kmick - I am a statistician and believe me - numbers will only go so far here as others have said. You have to also trust what (reputable)experts will tell you, i.e. whether a stone shows promise and/or is nice. In the end you will have to decide once you see the stone. You may even want to go to a jeweller and compare stones (branded and non-branded) and see for yourself which ones you like - and it may well be that you like the ones that do not have the "perfect" stats, whatever those are (not an exact science for fancy shapes). I know that it is an important decision - but if you want to play the numbers ad noseum you may have to buy a round stone instead.
 
Kmick, I know what you mean about being a numbers person. I''m a person who likes to go by numbers myself. But unfortunately with radiants, you can rule some out with the numbers, but you can''t necessarily pick just by the numbers. I myself have a radiant that is right within the range for both depth and table, but I have no idea about the crown height since I bought the stone already set and didn''t want to get it unset just to check the crown height. Sometimes I think about whether the crown height on my diamond is high enough, but not often enough to worry too much about it.

If Whiteflash says this looks like a good one, I would go with it. You have a 10 day return period if you don''t like it when you get it in person.

This does look like a nice radiant to me. It seems to have a bit more of the princess cut faceting going on in the center since it''s more of an X than a circular shape in the center. That''s not necessarily a bad thing though, and it isn''t as pronounced as I''ve seen on some of them. Some radiants just look like princess cuts with the corners chopped off, and that''s not what they''re supposed to look like at all. If it were me, I would get it and check it out in person.
 
Date: 5/22/2008 1:09:54 PM
Author: coda72
Kmick, I know what you mean about being a numbers person. I''m a person who likes to go by numbers myself. But unfortunately with radiants, you can rule some out with the numbers, but you can''t necessarily pick just by the numbers. I myself have a radiant that is right within the range for both depth and table, but I have no idea about the crown height since I bought the stone already set and didn''t want to get it unset just to check the crown height. Sometimes I think about whether the crown height on my diamond is high enough, but not often enough to worry too much about it.

If Whiteflash says this looks like a good one, I would go with it. You have a 10 day return period if you don''t like it when you get it in person.

This does look like a nice radiant to me. It seems to have a bit more of the princess cut faceting going on in the center since it''s more of an X than a circular shape in the center. That''s not necessarily a bad thing though, and it isn''t as pronounced as I''ve seen on some of them. Some radiants just look like princess cuts with the corners chopped off, and that''s not what they''re supposed to look like at all. If it were me, I would get it and check it out in person.
Well, its down to that one and two others tracy found that are somewhat similar. I think the one is that same James Allen diamond you posted before. its a little more than i wanted to spend tho. what are your thoughts on these from the basic stats? im not asking what you think of the diamond b/c as lorelei''s pointed out (something i agree with) you cant judge it from these stats. just what your initial thoughts on these versus that other one.

thanks!!!

http://www.whiteflash.com/radiant/Radiant-cut-diamond-1006564.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/radiant/Radiant-cut-diamond-934726.htm
 
Well, I personally would get the one you''ve already seen pics of and see if you like it in person. The stats on the other two you listed are no better, and there''s no guarantee that they will have higher crown heights either.
 
Date: 5/23/2008 1:09:46 AM
Author: coda72
Well, I personally would get the one you''ve already seen pics of and see if you like it in person. The stats on the other two you listed are no better, and there''s no guarantee that they will have higher crown heights either.
the crown height on the E VS2 is 14.6%. its measurements are only 6.05 by 6.06 or something though. tracy said sizewise though you wouldnt be able to tell the difference b/t that and 6.48 *6.28

she was going to order this one in and then we were going to compare the two.

i think i like this one b/c it seems to fit all the criteria on the gem appraiser site. well, i guess we''ll see how the two stack up.

its crazy there''s like hardly any radiants for sale that fall in the 1A to 2B category for cut on the gemappraiser site.
 
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