This 9ct OEC would cure my DSS once and for all

[Phoenix]

That is so pretty and a WOW size, I'd say go for it. It just has that uniqueness to it that you don't see very often.

Not sure what you mean. Would love it if you could pls explain?

 

[Phoenix]

So pretty and impressive
When (or should I say 'if') you buy her though, it would be a pity to only wear her at parties. I think she will look marvelous with jeans

Can't wait to see what you will decide. A 9 carat OEC

LOL. And I don't even wear jeans, well hardly ever.

Yes, a 9ct, this is the stuff dreams are made of.

 

[Phoenix]

I am so happy you chimed in, Charmy. I've been admiring your beautiful OEC and just went back to look at that thread again. It's gorgeous. So happy also to hear another perspective.

Yes, my photo-taking skills are definitely lacking. I did wonder if someone would notice/ mention that about Holly. She doesn't look great in that photo and I know for a fact that she's a knock-out with perfect symmetry etc...

What have you decided to do re the setting for your gorgeous OEC btw, may I ask? I haven't missed any update, have I?

 

[yennyfire]

Holy OEC batman!! That's just incredible to find a stone of that size that hasn't been murdered for the sake of an MRB!! I can't add to what others have said and I will be in line behind Mayk for your fire sale!!!

 

[bgray]

would it really cure it? i am a little skeptical but that being said, have you considered the cost of insuring it?

 

[Phoenix]

Holy OEC batman!! That's just incredible to find a stone of that size that hasn't been murdered for the sake of an MRB!! I can't add to what others have said and I will be in line behind Mayk for your fire sale!!!

Yes, isn't it? At least not everyone has recut these lovely old antique stones.

LOL. I will certainly let you guys know re the firesale, once we've sorted out whether this stone is worth pursuing.

 

[Phoenix]

would it really cure it? i am a little skeptical but that being said, have you considered the cost of insuring it?

LOL, any bigger and I wouldn't be able to close my fingers . In fact, I was thinking that I might have to wear it (should I decide to buy it) on my middle finger b/c it would be too big for my size 4 ring finger. I never ever contemplated such a large stone, just happened upon it when I wasn't even looking.

Insurance is all part and parcel of owning jewellery. Already paying a small fortune on all my more pricey stuff...what (else) to do...

 

[Natylad]

FIRE SALE!!!!! Did someone say SALE and Phoenix Jewels in the same sentence? I'M IN!!!!


Re: This 9ct OEC would cure my DSS once and for all. Thats's Just Silly Talk.....

LOL!

DH is hyperventilating at the moment! Poor thing! Well, at least I'm selling the other stuff!

Only this would cure Phoenix' s DSS once and for all, hehehe

 

[Phoenix]

NatyLad, I stand corrected. Now this is the stuff dreams are made of!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Phoenix, this stone looks very promising! But I would say don't buy it if you think it would be too big for your ring finger. I don't think it would look right on a middle finger at all. And I'd think hard about whether you'd get enough wear out of it as opposed to a 5 ct stone (cushion, EC. etc.) to make another RHR.

 

[PintoBean]

Middle finger, Phoenix? That will be one blinging bird you flip people off with!

 

[Dreamer_D]

I think the grey tint from the side might be a dirty girdle reflecting in the stone. I have had a few OECs like tht, with frosted girdles that collected dirt over the years. Makes the stone look dingy. I think a faceting of the girldle would clean it up and also improve the slight areas of girdle reflecting you can see face up at some angles.

The rarity of this diamond is huge. The cut looks good enough to my eyes -- as in, with a stone so rare, you cannot be so picky about cut and desire perfection.

Other than that, until it has a GIA report the bets are off. While I appreciate buying diamonds without lab reports, in this price range I would never counsel it. And until we have a report you can't really judge the stone at all. Guessing its color from bad photos is not a useful enterprise.

My only concern is whether the color and cut will be mind clean for you. While the rarity of this diamond means you likely could sell it in the future, the market for such a diamond would be small. You would not be able to easily sell if you wanted to. So you would need to be sure.

 

[Hera]

I think the grey tint from the side might be a dirty girdle reflecting in the stone. I have had a few OECs like tht, with frosted girdles that collected dirt over the years. Makes the stone look dingy. I think a faceting of the girldle would clean it up and also improve the slight areas of girdle reflecting you can see face up at some angles.

The rarity of this diamond is huge. The cut looks good enough to my eyes -- as in, with a stone so rare, you cannot be so picky about cut and desire perfection.

Other than that, until it has a GIA report the bets are off. While I appreciate buying diamonds without lab reports, in this price range I would never counsel it. And until we have a report you can't really judge the stone at all. Guessing its color from bad photos is not a useful enterprise.

My only concern is whether the color and cut will be mind clean for you. While the rarity of this diamond means you likely could sell it in the future, the market for such a diamond would be small. You would not be able to easily sell if you wanted to. So you would need to be sure.

True! You can't really say "NEXT!" when it comes to a size like this, can you!!!?

 

[pyramid]

Surely your 3.02 F would be worth a lot more than this stone! Yet you are going to sell it, plus other large stones and then also put more money and jewel funds towards it.

Is DSS really worth all of that to you?

 

[makemepretty]

It has such large chunky facets. Some diamonds just stick with you, one that always caught my eye was softly softly's lower color stone. It was genuinely swoon worthy. This one has that same feeling to me. Like old Hollywood glamour.

 

[partgypsy]

Wow that is one big piece of diamond

Would you have to sell Holly That would be sad. I wouldn't do it if you had to do that.

I love oecs, but I don't know if I had a 9 carat ring, I would want in in a oec cut.But that's me.

I wouldn't buy it just for the size, but if you truly fell in love with the stone and it was like the "at last" stone for you. Only you can tell.

 

[Phoenix]

Phoenix, this stone looks very promising! But I would say don't buy it if you think it would be too big for your ring finger. I don't think it would look right on a middle finger at all. And I'd think hard about whether you'd get enough wear out of it as opposed to a 5 ct stone (cushion, EC. etc.) to make another RHR.

Ha ha, I think a middle finger would be just fine. I used to wear a diamond by-pass ring that my mom gave me a long time ago and it was quite lovely. I also have a friend who's about the same size as me (body frame, hands) and she wears rings on both her middle fingers and they look very nice on her.

As for RHR, I have my halo'ed pear; and in any case, I don't think I'd want to wear another 5ct whilst Holly is on my LH. Holly wouldn't like the competition, yanno know?! I was actually thinking of resetting the 2.656ct with rubies sides, kind of like Chrono's but with rounds instead of cushions.

I actually would LOVE a party piece. I basically wear the same things everyday, whether I go to gym, dinner parties, grocery-shopping etc; and it'd be amazing to have something really wooooooowww for special occasions, yanno know (?!).

Thank you though, DS.

 

[GreenBling]

Hi Phoenix, so excited for you! It's such a rare opportunity that you should definitely explore! I think you can and ready to rock a 9-ct! Just hope you will find a way to keep Holly though. Keep the photos coming. Would love to see more hand shots of every possible angle and lighting!

 

[Phoenix]

Surely your 3.02 F would be worth a lot more than this stone! Yet you are going to sell it, plus other large stones and then also put more money and jewel funds towards it.

Is DSS really worth all of that to you?

You've made a very good point re the pricing. The scenario I painted above would be the worst case scenario, if I was to emphasize. The MV's for all those stones would add up to a bit more than this 9ct. But I've been trying to sell these pieces for a while now and it looks like either I'd have to wait for a long time - hoping diamond price inflation continues on an upwards trend - to sell them (even at about 10-15% to MV) or sell them now at a steep discount (40% or so) and free up the funds straightaway so I could afford this 9ct. Of course, I would have to make 1000% sure I really want this 9ct and it'd have to be at least a K, Si1 with no major chipping etc..and a decent cut (well, judging from what others have said, not the best cut given its size but a decent enough cut so it'd be mind-clean enough for me). I'd also negotiate the price for this 9ct assuming I want it...So I'd have to take a lot of factors into consideration and it's not something I'd rush into... you get the gist...

 

[Phoenix]

Wow that is one big piece of diamond

Would you have to sell Holly That would be sad. I wouldn't do it if you had to do that.

I love oecs, but I don't know if I had a 9 carat ring, I would want in in a oec cut.But that's me.

I wouldn't buy it just for the size, but if you truly fell in love with the stone and it was like the "at last" stone for you. Only you can tell.

I would definitely not sell Holly. I her so much and am enjoying her tremendously.

Yanno, I wasn't looking or even thinking about a "at last stone" or any other diamond at all (though of course whenever I see larger diamonds on other ladies' hands, I always get fascinated by them ). I was just at the show, looking at emeralds and this stall with all kinds of antique stones was beckoning me and I walked over to have a closer look and there it was, this 9ct, it just screamed at me and I asked to have a closer look and bamn it was instant love (or maybe it was lust, lol)!

 

[pyramid]

Oh yes understand if it is only considerations just now. I had just looked at the pricescope search engine (not OECs) and noticed that
the three 9 carat stones available seemed to be about a third of the cost of a 3 Carat F

 

[LLJsmom]

Phoenix, that must be amazing to see and hold a big old OEC. Just the idea of actually owning one that is that size and is sparkly and pretty must be soooo tempting. And you seem comfortable with the idea of having the BIG bling to bust out on special occassions. If you can afford it and would enjoy it, I say go for it. Only you know how much enjoyment you would be giving up in selling your other pieces and how much more enjoyment you would get from owning/wearing this lovely piece of ice.

Besides, look at those celebrities. They wear their 10-caraters like they're rubber bracelets...

If it's a go, I CAN'T wait to see the final pics!!

 

[Phoenix]

Oh yes understand if it is only considerations just now. I had just looked at the pricescope search engine (not OECs) and noticed that
the three 9 carat stones available seemed to be about a third of the cost of a 3 Carat F[/quote]


The cost of a 9ct = 1/3 cost of a 3ct F? Really?! Where are these?!

I am not sure I understand what you mean?

I must be missing something here. Anyway, this 9ct is supposed to be J-K, SI (let's say SI1) and the 3ct is 3.02ct F VS2 triple Excelellent by GIA. The 9ct would have to be certed by GIA too otherwise I'd not consider it.

 

[Phoenix]

Middle finger, Phoenix? That will be one blinging bird you flip people off with!

LOL, I can't remember last time I flipped anybody off!

 

[Phoenix]

Phoenix, that must be amazing to see and hold a big old OEC. Just the idea of actually owning one that is that size and is sparkly and pretty must be soooo tempting. And you seem comfortable with the idea of having the BIG bling to bust out on special occassions. If you can afford it and would enjoy it, I say go for it. Only you know how much enjoyment you would be giving up in selling your other pieces and how much more enjoyment you would get from owning/wearing this lovely piece of ice.

Besides, look at those celebrities. They wear their 10-caraters like they're rubber bracelets...

If it's a go, I CAN'T wait to see the final pics!!

Ha ha, DH is refusing to let me spend a huge amount (of fresh funds) on it. What I am hoping for, on a best or better scenario, is to be able to sell those other stones, buy this 9ct (if it's acceptable, specs and looks wise) and still have a small amount left. Unlikely, but you never know.

I'd totally ROCK this piece, ha ha! You know, I even asked about the history of this stone/ ring and the vendor didn't seem to know. He must have bought it from an estate or auction.

Haven't worn the other pieces for a few years now. Theres's a chance I may take back the 2.656ct H to reset into a 3-stone ring with rubies sides but the rest I'd really like to sell, sooner or later (preferably the former).

 

[Phoenix]

I think the grey tint from the side might be a dirty girdle reflecting in the stone. I have had a few OECs like tht, with frosted girdles that collected dirt over the years. Makes the stone look dingy. I think a faceting of the girldle would clean it up and also improve the slight areas of girdle reflecting you can see face up at some angles.

The rarity of this diamond is huge. The cut looks good enough to my eyes -- as in, with a stone so rare, you cannot be so picky about cut and desire perfection.

Other than that, until it has a GIA report the bets are off. While I appreciate buying diamonds without lab reports, in this price range I would never counsel it. And until we have a report you can't really judge the stone at all. Guessing its color from bad photos is not a useful enterprise.

My only concern is whether the color and cut will be mind clean for you. While the rarity of this diamond means you likely could sell it in the future, the market for such a diamond would be small. You would not be able to easily sell if you wanted to. So you would need to be sure.

I'm glad you chimed in, Dreamer. You're one of the experts on old stones here.

Yes, the stone is filthy. I often wonder why people don't clean their diamond and thus enhancing the way a diamond looks/ its performance, before putting up it for sale - bizarre!

Glad to hear that the grey area might be just girdle reflection. Yes, I also seem to remember that the girdle is bruted and not faceted. Do you think someone like Adam at GOG could help with that?

It is incredibly rare. I don't remember having seen a large stone like that, either in person or elsewhere. Glad to hear I shouldn't be so picky and expect absolute perfection. It makes sense to me.

I've contacted the vendor over the weekend to ask for more pics, certification etc...awaiting his reply now.

I have asked myself about its mind-cleanness too I was surprised to see myself drawn to warmer stones (being such a colour-sensitive so and so). I think the size and the beautiful old cut just drew me in. For sure, even if all the pics and cert all turn out to be ok, I'd make sure to see it again in person before committing to it.

Thank you, Dreamer.

 

[pyramid]

Phoenix

I was checking the diamond search engine and found 3 for third the cost of a new 3 carat F. A 2 carat F at Whiteflash is $60,000, the three 9 carats were around the $30000 mark.

 

[pyramid]

Phoenix




Edited: sorry I was looking at higher clarity. There are 3 carat F VS2's for around 60,000 though so still twice the price of the 9 carats held on the pricescope search engine (AND this is all wrong see my post below ).

 

[ForteKitty]

I looked but didn't see any 9 carats for $30k. I found some for about $200k?

 

[SB621]

sorry this is quick as I'm not supposed to be online right now.

My vote is also girdle reflection. I think it has great potential.
Adam works at Old World Diamonds, Jon is at GOG.
You can totally rock out 9cts! My 5ct with a halo looks very similar to 8 cts if it were a solitare. On my size 6 finger I'm already used to the spread.