Thinking of buying diamond at Bluenile, setting at Jared''s. Good idea?

[Stevesanders808]

After MANY hours of research you guys have convinced me to buy the diamond online. Bluenile seems to be the most reputable from a wide variety of sources. I like a particular setting at Jareds much more than anything I''ve found online however and it''s a reasonable price. I''d like to have them set the diamond as well in their setting, is this common or even possible?

I talked to the salesgirl at Jared''s and of course she gave me a hundred reasons why Bluenile was no good. (IGI laser enscribes their diamonds, Bluenile doesn''t. GIA has one college student evaluating each diamond etc.) Her biggest objection seemed to be if I bought the diamond and it had flaws in the girdle they may not be able to set it properly. She said just buy the diamond and they would "see" if they could set it.

Your thoughts? ( I appreciate all the help btw!)

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/2/2009 1:49:00 PM
Author:Stevesanders808
After MANY hours of research you guys have convinced me to buy the diamond online. Bluenile seems to be the most reputable from a wide variety of sources. I like a particular setting at Jareds much more than anything I''ve found online however and it''s a reasonable price. I''d like to have them set the diamond as well in their setting, is this common or even possible?

I talked to the salesgirl at Jared''s and of course she gave me a hundred reasons why Bluenile was no good. (IGI laser enscribes their diamonds, Bluenile doesn''t. GIA has one college student evaluating each diamond etc.) Her biggest objection seemed to be if I bought the diamond and it had flaws in the girdle they may not be able to set it properly. She said just buy the diamond and they would ''see'' if they could set it.

Your thoughts? ( I appreciate all the help btw!)

Hi Steve

You would need to make sure Jareds would assume responsibility if the diamond broke or shattered whilst they set it, not many will assume liability for a diamond they did not sell so make sure of this before you proceed.

 

[Stevesanders808]

Thanks Lorelei, good point. So I''m assuming this isn''t done too often huh?

Regarding what the sales girl at Jared''s said about Bluenile not laser enscribing their stones, is this a valid concern?

Thanks again.

 

[tonyc2387]

Date: 12/2/2009 1:49:00 PM
Author:Stevesanders808
I talked to the salesgirl at Jared''s and of course she gave me a hundred reasons why Bluenile was no good. (IGI laser enscribes their diamonds, Bluenile doesn''t. GIA has one college student evaluating each diamond etc.) Her biggest objection seemed to be if I bought the diamond and it had flaws in the girdle they may not be able to set it properly. She said just buy the diamond and they would ''see'' if they could set it.

Man, the crap they feed you to get you to buy their diamond. Unbelievable. BN is *not* a grading facility, they have no need to laser inscribe their diamonds... because their GIA and AGS stock is *already inscribed*. It''s pretty well documented that GIA&AGS are the standard by which all other labs are judged, and if she''s trying to pass off the IGI as ''better'', well...

(oh and you should bring her a cert from a BN SigIdeal, which are inscribed with a BN logo... tell her if she expects you to buy from her, she needs to start telling the truth

)

Personally, I wouldn''t be giving them any money... but, since they have something you like... do what Lorelei said; make sure you get everything in writing, buy your own (15x+) loupe to make sure you can verify inclusions & inscription on your own, and hope for the best. Alternatively, you could try and find the setting online and take a printout to a good local jeweler to have a replica made... might be worth it as they''ll tend to be a bit less inclined to give you crap about it AND they''ll be more trustworthy...

 

[MissGotRocks]

Date: 12/2/2009 1:49:00 PM
Author:Stevesanders808
After MANY hours of research you guys have convinced me to buy the diamond online. Bluenile seems to be the most reputable from a wide variety of sources. I like a particular setting at Jareds much more than anything I''ve found online however and it''s a reasonable price. I''d like to have them set the diamond as well in their setting, is this common or even possible?

I talked to the salesgirl at Jared''s and of course she gave me a hundred reasons why Bluenile was no good. (IGI laser enscribes their diamonds, Bluenile doesn''t. GIA has one college student evaluating each diamond etc.) Her biggest objection seemed to be if I bought the diamond and it had flaws in the girdle they may not be able to set it properly. She said just buy the diamond and they would ''see'' if they could set it.

Your thoughts? ( I appreciate all the help btw!)

Bluenile is not the most reputable - but they are reputable. My son bought a setting from Jared''s and a stone from Whiteflash. He sent WF the setting and they set the stone he bought from them into it. Bluenile probably won''t do that. Frankly, I wouldn''t trust Jared''s to set that stone. She has already fed you a line of hogwash and if the stone is set badly or crooked or whatever they will try to blame it on the stone. At least the salesperson he dealt with at Jared''s told him they couldn''t match WF''s price - and as it turned out, not the same cut quality. I gave them credit for that.

If you are really set on a particular mounting, consider buying a stone from someone that would set it in your mounting. Bluenile doesn''t have anything in terms of stones that others don''t or can''t get. Just another avenue to consider.

 

[swingirl]

Not a real fan of Jared's and their business methods. The sales person seems very uninformed. Can you trust the rest of their staff to be as educated in the very profession they are employed in? (GIA has one college student evaluating each diamond)

There isn't any setting that can't be custom made or is already made/copied by another jeweler.

Post a photo of the setting and see if anyone can come up with something close.

I think BlueNile is very reputable. They have a very long return policy and although they don't offer photography of their stones I can't think of one case where a stone was misrepresented.

 

[Stevesanders808]

Thanks again for the advice, I''m losing confidence in Jared''s quickly Here''s the setting I really liked at Jared''s. Any idea who has one similar for a similar price? I''ve looked on James Allen and Bluenile but didn''t like their settings and they were a bit pricey.

http://design.jared-diamonds.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/ring/item_58-5889.asp

Oh also, so GIA diamonds have the serial number enscribed on them? Or how do you know they match a given set of specs? This was the selling point the sales lady at Jared''s used. IGI was laser enscribed and GIA wasn''t. She said that GIA had one college student verifying/evaluating each diamond where IGI used 3 people to verify each diamond. Just trying to get the facts straight.

Thanks!

 

[swingirl]

The engraving cost extra and not all cutters opt to have the stone engraved when it is sent to GIA. But between the carat weight, the dimensions (width, length, depth, multiple angles), and the inclusion plot, and the color---it''s like a finger print. No two are exactly alike.

Here is a setting that is close. sleek line pave

 

[MissGotRocks]

Date: 12/2/2009 10:43:02 PM
Author: swingirl
The engraving cost extra and not all cutters opt to have the stone engraved when it is sent to GIA. But between the carat weight, the dimensions (width, length, depth, multiple angles), and the inclusion plot, and the color---it''s like a finger print. No two are exactly alike.

Here is a setting that is close. sleek line pave

And prettier IMO. Have you looked at some of Whiteflash''s stones? Ideal is buying the setting and the stone from the same company - then you really have no worries!

 

[outatouch0]

Date: 12/2/2009 10:36:15 PM
Author: Stevesanders808
Thanks again for the advice, I''m losing confidence in Jared''s quickly Here''s the setting I really liked at Jared''s. Any idea who has one similar for a similar price? I''ve looked on James Allen and Bluenile but didn''t like their settings and they were a bit pricey.

http://design.jared-diamonds.com/engagement-rings/settings-with-sidestones/ring/item_58-5889.asp

Oh also, so GIA diamonds have the serial number enscribed on them? Or how do you know they match a given set of specs? This was the selling point the sales lady at Jared''s used. IGI was laser enscribed and GIA wasn''t. She said that GIA had one college student verifying/evaluating each diamond where IGI used 3 people to verify each diamond. Just trying to get the facts straight.

Thanks!

That is a nice setting.
I can assure you it is not unique to Jareds. Look through the rings from various other PS vendors and you will likely find it on at least 2 or more sites. https://www.pricescope.com/dealers.asp

The best way to get your facts straight IMO is to wash your mind of the filth you have been told. Remember, they will only tell you what they can sell you. Head to the PS Knowlege Section and work your way through the tutorial. You will then know more than the college dropout SA at you local B&M.