The Official TTC Thread!

[curiousaboutdiamonds]

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DD: Thank you for the medicine suggestions! I will confirm with my pharmacist friend. I decided to hold off until I can't take it anymore (which might be today).

Amc: My progression pics from last cycle look just like yours. I wish I had some digital smiley ones last time to confirm. With temping and digital OPKs, I think you will be all set. (ETA: and CM observation like Dreamer said.)

Monkey: No positive yet but definitely getting closer. I'm not sure what's going to happen now because I have a full-blown cold. I really hope you're not coming down with something. Make sure to load up on lots of Vit C! Hope you get a positive soon!

Katy: Have a great time with your mom!

Brown: Have a great vacation! Hope you come back with a BFP!!!

Pancake: Sorry for your frustration with the salivary OPK. Hope they give you clearer readings soon! Even the urine OPKs are difficult to read sometimes too!

LC: Watery CM is fertile CM!!! That's a great start! I dont like cleaning either but it has to be done. It's been a month since DD drank from a bottle and we still have her bottle warmer and sterilizer out, which is taking up much needed space. I'd rather lay in bed to try and kick this thing than do spring cleaning. Hope you have another successful acupuncture session!

Lizzy: I'm looking forward to sleeping in tomorrow! I told DH how miserable I feel today and he responds, "well, you'll be able to sleep in tomorrow.". Hehe. Fingers and toes crossed for great beta results today!!!

to anyone I've missed.

AFM: I've got a full-blown cold. All of my nearby family are busy today so I don't have anyone to watch DD for me. DH is extremely busy at work and I didn't want him to take the day off. So we're going to try to have a low-key day. I'm getting lots of EW and my last OPK from yesterday afternoon is getting much darker. If my cold doesn't delay O, I may get a positive this weekend!! So I am going to rest as much as I can to get ready for the weekend

Have a great holiday (for the US peeps) weekend everyone!!!

 

[lizzyann]

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Bad news...only went to 118...another m/c on the horizon....I am in tears writing this and I don't know how much more I can take...

 

[Dreamer_D]

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Lizzy I am so sorry. Take care this weekend. Hopefully now the doctors can start really looking into some possible solutions for you.

 

[amc80]

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Bad news...only went to 118...another m/c on the horizon....I am in tears writing this and I don't know how much more I can take...

So sorry

 

[monkeyprincess]

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Oh Lizzy, not again. I don't even know what to say other than I am so sorry you have to go through this again. My thoughts are with you this weekend. I still have faith that you will find a solution and put an end to this nightmare you've had to go through.

 

[lili]

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Bad news...only went to 118...another m/c on the horizon....I am in tears writing this and I don't know how much more I can take...

*hugs* I'm so sorry
hopefully the doctor will run some more tests to see if they can pinpoint the problem.
i know it is hard to see it now, but the good news is that you can get pregnant easily.
there is another PSer on here who went through multiple m/c (i believe it is 3 or more in a row) and she did eventually carry her little girl to full term. i don't believe there was any issues w/ her either...just bad luck.

 

[lizzyann]

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Ladies, thank you. I have a phone conversation planned on Tuesday with the RE doctor because they are pushing Clomid, but I don't buy how that is going to help me when I get pregnant every cycle. I want more tests! Something is not right. I plan on calling my OB on Tues as well to get his opinion on all of this.

 

[KatyWI]

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Oh, Lizzy. My heart just aches for you, my dear friend. I wish that I didn't know what that felt like, and it's so unfair that it keeps happening to you.

I hope like hell that someone will get you some answers soon. I am here if you need anything!! Only being on a message board like this, that seems silly to offer but... <3

 

[curiousaboutdiamonds]

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Lizzy, I am so sorry my friend. I was so confident that this one would stick. The initial betas were so strong. I really hope you get some answers moving forward. We are here for you. ::HUGS::

 

[Dreamer_D]

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Ladies, thank you. I have a phone conversation planned on Tuesday with the RE doctor because they are pushing Clomid, but I don't buy how that is going to help me when I get pregnant every cycle. I want more tests! Something is not right. I plan on calling my OB on Tues as well to get his opinion on all of this.

Perhaps their reasoning is that the egg will be stronger and riper, and thus more likely to make it though those early phases of development? I hope they have some good answers for you. Perhaps also ask for a blood sugar challenge? My friend who has multiple MCs went on metformin for her blood sugar and it seemed to help (or was a coincidence). Blood sugar issues can be part of "skinny PCOS". Like you, she got pregnant very easily.

 

[pancake]

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Oh Lizzy, I am so sorry.

At times like this I'm sure that things like what I'm about to type are going to sound hollow and trite and "there there" - but I'm going to say it anyway because I find it comforting myself... My mother had all sorts of problems having kids - she had two MCs before me, 4 after, then after that she could not conceive at all for years (despite treatment of endometriosis, clomiphene, participation in several large clinical trials looking into anti-phospholipid syndrome, you name it), and then suddenly she popped out 2 bubs in 24 months. The thing is, when I talk to her about it, she says, "Well, I didn't mean for it to be this way, but I have 3 beautiful healthy children...so it did work out".

I know your story is unique and different, but I do believe you will end up with your family. Good luck with the RE and obstetrician - and give yourself some TLC for a while.

 

[janinegirly]

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Lizzy, I signed on to check on you and I'm really shocked....I'm so sorry, I can't imagine the emotions. Are they definitely saying m/c? I do think it's clear it's time for a little break and new approach. You are still young, your DS is only 2, there is no rush - better to get a handle on what is going on. I have no doubt you will suceed, but just might not be as quick a road as it seemed (although you are a pro at the hard part - getting pregnant fast .

I would plan to take this month off (just to relieve the pressure/anxiety) and then go for a 2nd opinion. Doesn't hurt right? That way you can see if another specialist says the same thing/approach. If so why not try the Clomid - it makes sense and it's worth it to give it all a shot to avoid having to go through this ever again. Get lots of rest and enjoy the sunshine .

 

[lliang_chi]

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Lizzy, I'm sorry to hear about that. I really hope you get some answers soon. Hugs my friend. I hope you can get some tests and someone to listen to you.

~LC

 

[lizzyann]

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Everyone, thank you so much for your kind words and support....

This is going to be long, but I want your opinion....

Some of you may remember that from the beginning I didn't feel I had a great connection with this RE. Our first meeting with her was after I had my very first m/c while TTC#2. Now keep in mind I had two m/c's before I had my son, which is why my OB recommended I go see an RE. So my DH and I are in the RE office and she is reviewing my chart on her computer. She told us "that in her medical opinion, it was just bad luck" She also said "she wasn't worried about us". She then proceeded to try to review my file and kept asking ME what tests my OB ran. She seemed to be having a hard time navigating my chart. She asked about chromosomal analysis and I told her that yes something of that nature was done and she was just like "ok good then" and stopped trying to navigate. She said to keep trying and to start using the progesterone suppositories 3 days after positive OPK which was earlier than what my OB had me doing. She then told me she wanted to do a quick u/s and she noticed that it appeared I had not ovulated that last cycle (this is the one cycle that I did not ovulate after m/c). She said that it didn't look like I was going to get my period for another two weeks. Well, it started the very next day. Anyways, she ran no add'l blood work, no add'l tests, or anything at all. At one point during the appt, she turned to me and said "I hope you don't think I'm blowing you off". I just told her that I just feel like we haven't learned anything new and she reiterated that we are going to start the progesterone earlier. Big deal! My Dh and I left that first appt feeling as though she didn't think we even needed to be there and we were a waste of her time. My OB referred me there. It's not like we just showed up you know? Anyways, since then, I've had two more m/c's under her watch and still no add'l testing or u/s's or anything. 3 m/c's, I just feel like we are beyond bad luck. Personally, I think I have an egg problem. But I don't know if they do a test to evaluate that. I know when you do IVF, they harvest the fertilized eggs and implant only the ones that have multiplied the farthest and were the cream of the crop. I am going to ask about that. But nevertheless, she just keeps pushing Clomid. Which in my opinion is a band aid to the unknown real problem. I get that it makes you release more eggs and thus your chances of one of one of them sticking are higher that way, but I know we will fertilize all of them and what if they ALL stick that month? I plan on discussing all of this with the RE on Tues and I also plan on calling my OB for his opinion. I have a great relationship with him. If after these conversations, I don't have a good feeling about the new plan then I am going to get a second opinion from another RE.

Dreamer, does Clomid really improve the quality of the eggs? Isn't the quality already determined as I sit today? My understanding was it just increases the amount released? I will ask though when I talk to them on Tuesday.

The worse part is that I feel as though my BB"s are sorer today which means my beta has probably risen a little giving me false hope, but I know that it is just going to take some time before it finally lowers. More betas to be drawn on Tuesday....

Thank you all again so much...and good luck to all of the ladies for next cycle...

 

[Loves Vintage]

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LizzyAnn - Hi, I don't post very much in this thread, though I do lurk on occasion. I am so sorry for what you are going through. I do hope that your RE is able to provide you with more guidance and support at your next visit. When I went to an RE, I did have an array of testing on my first cycle there, but I was 36 when I first started going there, had never been pregnant and was ttc'g for 6+ months without success. My impression was that every patient has the baseline testing (u/s, sono-hsg, hsg, CD3 and CD21 bloodwork), upon their first cycle at the practice, but perhaps that is not the case in all circumstances. I don't know really, but I would definitely have felt put off if no testing were done too.

Back when I was having trouble conceiving, I used to go to the American Society for Reproductive Medicine website for information, mostly because my RE used their handouts in his practice. You may find this fact sheet helpful in preparing for your conversation with your RE: http://asrm.org/uploadedFiles/ASRM_...ets_and_Info_Booklets/recurrent_preg_loss.pdf I noticed it says a thorough evaluation is warranted after three losses. Perhaps that is why your RE didn't do any testing yet? Of course, if that is the case, it would be nice if she had explained that to you so you would better understand where she is coming from.

Since you have the appointment scheduled already, it will be interesting to see what her plan of action is now. Based on the quick reading I just did, there could be multiple causes for your recurrent losses, or there could potentially be no known/discoverable cause. At this point, I would be wholly unsatisfied if her plan is to suggest clomid only. I would likely read through the fact sheet above, bring it with me, and ask her what testing she would do at this point for each of the possible causes. If she says none, I would plainly ask why not, and if her response is not satisfactory, I would quickly move on to a new doctor.

I am really sorry you are going through this. I wish you and your DH the best of luck in building your family.

 

[amc80]

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Dreamer, does Clomid really improve the quality of the eggs? Isn't the quality already determined as I sit today? My understanding was it just increases the amount released? I will ask though when I talk to them on Tuesday.

I know this wasn't directed towards me...but yes, clomid can help with egg quality. Taking it earlier in your cycle causes you to produce more follicles, while taking it later leads to better development. Hope that helps.

From http://www.inciid.org/faq.php?cat=infertility101&id=1#30
"Should I be taking Clomid on days 3-7 or on days 5-9?
In theory, days 3-7 of Clomid lead to more follicles and fewer side effects on the lining and the mucus. Days 5-9 lead to better development of just a few follicles. It seems to make a difference for some women and does not make any difference in others. Little conclusive research on the issue exists."

 

[lizzyann]

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Loves Vintage, thank you for the link to that fact sheet. I looked it over quickly and I think it will be a huge help in my discussion. I am going to read it over thoroughly later and write down my questions. Thanks so much for posting.

I also wanted to add that when I was TTC back in 2008, I had two early m/c's. After the second one, my OB told me they usually run tests after 3 m/c, but if I wanted to take a month off and have tests run, then he would order them. We decided to do the testing. So my DH and I both went in for a bunch of blood tests including the clotting test, we had chromosomal testing done, and I had an ultrasound done to check for anatomy issues. He felt I did not need a sonohyst because my u/s gave a clear picture and all looked well. My OB also had me come in for a u/s around O time to check my lining and all looked well. He started me on progesterone suppositories and we started TTC the very next month. We got pregnant and my son was born in April 2009. So when we started TTC this year for #2, my OB gave me the prescription for the progesterone and we started trying. We got pregnant our first month trying, but it went on to end in an early miscarriage. I had a conversation with my OB and he felt that with my past history, it would be best to see an RE. So once I saw the RE, I think she saw that my OB had run all of the preliminary tests for repeat miscarriage and did not order anything else. But in my opinion, it has been 3 years since those tests were run. I could have developed a new issue at this point. I am going to bring that up when I talk to her on Tuesday as well.

Thanks for listening....

 

[lizzyann]

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Dreamer, does Clomid really improve the quality of the eggs? Isn't the quality already determined as I sit today? My understanding was it just increases the amount released? I will ask though when I talk to them on Tuesday.

I know this wasn't directed towards me...but yes, clomid can help with egg quality. Taking it earlier in your cycle causes you to produce more follicles, while taking it later leads to better development. Hope that helps.

From http://www.inciid.org/faq.php?cat=infertility101&id=1#30
"Should I be taking Clomid on days 3-7 or on days 5-9?
In theory, days 3-7 of Clomid lead to more follicles and fewer side effects on the lining and the mucus. Days 5-9 lead to better development of just a few follicles. It seems to make a difference for some women and does not make any difference in others. Little conclusive research on the issue exists."

AMC, thanks for the link. I am going to ask about this. The nurse told me they would start me on day 3. But I am going to ask about starting it later. Thank you.

 

[Dreamer_D]

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I would do what LV suggests. If you are not *fully* satisfied after this meeting, with the approach and information the RE can give you, find another one.

I don't know how doctors count m/c, but you have now had 6 pregnancies and 5 m/c. To me, that is not about luck, there is a cause. Whether our medical knowledge can help identify it is sadly another story But in your shoes I would not longer be satisfied with a sitting back and waiting thing.

I don't know a lot about clomid, only what I have read here and on some other forums, but preparation of the egg is more than just opening a door and the egg pops out! It gets "ripened" first in the follicle, and that preparation is essential. I have heard clomid helps with that phase. But you will need to ask your RE! Or the next one if this one is being dense.

Unfortunaly, as is often the case, you need to be your own advocate and learn a lot to get the best out of the medical system. But you can do it. You are a strong woman, Lizzy.

 

[geri]

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Lizziann

I wanted to say how sorry I am for your losses. I had three miscarriages before my daughter was born earlier this year (it may have been me that lili was thinking of) and I know how heartbreaking it is and I am so, so sorry that you are going through this again.

I also had no trouble falling pregnant, 3 cycles in a row at one stage, but could not sustain the pregnancies. My initial OB was very much of the "it's just bad luck" school but eventually referred me for testing after the third time. I had all the first line of testing done and it was all clear but I didn't feel that the initial OB was proactive enough for my taste and got a referral to another OB who specialises in recurrent miscarriage. I was pregnant again before I first saw him and that pregnancy stuck so I didn't do any more testing but he indicated that there were more things we could look at if I had another miscarriage. Among other things he has done a lot of research into "natural killer cells". It is new and controversial but I liked the fact that he was happy to look for more answers rather than saying it was bad luck. I may never know what the issue was (although my suspicion is for me it was just age because I was 37/38 at the time and my egg quality probably wasn't so great) but I at least wanted to know that I had done everything I could before giving up.

I wish I had some miraculous solution for you but I agree with DD that you need to be your own advocate. Change RE's if it doesn't feel right to you and don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck, I really wish you every success in the world.

Geri

 

[lizzyann]

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I would do what LV suggests. If you are not *fully* satisfied after this meeting, with the approach and information the RE can give you, find another one.

I don't know how doctors count m/c, but you have now had 6 pregnancies and 5 m/c. To me, that is not about luck, there is a cause. Whether our medical knowledge can help identify it is sadly another story But in your shoes I would not longer be satisfied with a sitting back and waiting thing.

I don't know a lot about clomid, only what I have read here and on some other forums, but preparation of the egg is more than just opening a door and the egg pops out! It gets "ripened" first in the follicle, and that preparation is essential. I have heard clomid helps with that phase. But you will need to ask your RE! Or the next one if this one is being dense.

Unfortunaly, as is often the case, you need to be your own advocate and learn a lot to get the best out of the medical system. But you can do it. You are a strong woman, Lizzy.

Dreamer, don't you worry..I have been researching and keeping a list of questions for when I talk to the RE tomorrow. I was willing to accept the bad luck diagnosis after the first m/c, but this has gone on for too long. 5 out of 6 pregnancies ending with early loss - my stats are not good. I don't know why doctors like to dumb things down for people. Kind of like poor Katy with her bad explanation of her m/c. I am an educated woman and demand an educated or scientific explanation you know? The bad luck thing is not cutting it. I would have more respect for the RE if they just basically told me that all testing has been exhausted and though there must be something that is causing these m/c's, there is no way to diagnose at this point, thus recommending Clomid. DD, I understand your point now about the Clomid. For some reason, I'm not finding any good "internet research" on Clomid. So I'm hoping the RE will have add'l info. If I am not satisfied, I will ask my OB for another referral to a different RE when I talk to him on Tuesday as well. I'm willing to take the next month off to try to get to the bottom of this all. I don't know if you have seen my thread in hangout, but I desperately am feeling the need to make a jewelry purchase to find a distraction in all of this....

 

[lizzyann]

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Lizziann

I wanted to say how sorry I am for your losses. I had three miscarriages before my daughter was born earlier this year (it may have been me that lili was thinking of) and I know how heartbreaking it is and I am so, so sorry that you are going through this again.

I also had no trouble falling pregnant, 3 cycles in a row at one stage, but could not sustain the pregnancies. My initial OB was very much of the "it's just bad luck" school but eventually referred me for testing after the third time. I had all the first line of testing done and it was all clear but I didn't feel that the initial OB was proactive enough for my taste and got a referral to another OB who specialises in recurrent miscarriage. I was pregnant again before I first saw him and that pregnancy stuck so I didn't do any more testing but he indicated that there were more things we could look at if I had another miscarriage. Among other things he has done a lot of research into "natural killer cells". It is new and controversial but I liked the fact that he was happy to look for more answers rather than saying it was bad luck. I may never know what the issue was (although my suspicion is for me it was just age because I was 37/38 at the time and my egg quality probably wasn't so great) but I at least wanted to know that I had done everything I could before giving up.

I wish I had some miraculous solution for you but I agree with DD that you need to be your own advocate. Change RE's if it doesn't feel right to you and don't be afraid to ask questions. Good luck, I really wish you every success in the world.

Geri

Geri, thank you so much for posting. I am so happy for you that thru all of the losses, you were able to have your daughter. It gives me HOPE!!

I also went thru the first round of diagnostic testing and I am wondering what the second round will entail. My RE has literally not run 1 test on me. Not one. I find that unacceptable. My last testing was done in 2008, anything could have changed ya know? I will be 32 in July, so age may or may not be a factor for me, but I do feel like there might be a problem with my eggs. The reality is that the egg implants and then stops growing. To me that is the glaring reason, but I am not a doctor. During all of your losses, was Clomid ever brought up as a possible suggestion? Were you taking anything else along in the way? Progesterone, aspirin? Thank you for your help and support!

 

[NewEnglandLady]

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Oh Lizzy, I'm so, so sorry. I can't believe you are in this spot AGAIN. I know you did everything you could (the progesterone, baby aspirin, etc.) and I would also be frustrated if my RE was not motivated to find answers for me.

You've already gotten good suggestions--I would keep my appt. to talk with her since it can't hurt, but at this point finding another RE might be your best option. Unless the current RE suddenly becomes interested in getting to the bottom of this, I don't think she's going to meet your needs. Simply suggesting clomid without mentioning any type of testing seems way too laid back for what you are going through. Three m/c in as many cycles seems way too coincidental to be bad luck. I hate that you are going through this, I want so badly for you to have real ANSWERS and not have to hope for a stroke of luck to stay pregnant.

I'm thinking of you and want so badly for you to get pregnant and stay pregnant. I'm praying you'll get answers soon!

 

[Loves Vintage]

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Lizzy - I've been thinking about you and your upcoming appointment and have a few more thoughts. (1) I'd want to know how many of the possible causes of recurrent m/c are no longer feasible explanations in your case, given that you carried a baby to term. That may be another reason why the RE hasn't done certain tests? I'm sure it's a positive factor toward another successful pregnancy, and perhaps this is why the RE said she wasn't worried about you guys. (2) If you do a cycle of clomid, will you be monitored by u/s? Your concern over multiples is justified; however, if you are monitored by u/s, the dr can tell you how many eggs will release and what the chances are for multiples. You can then make an informed decision re: whether you want to proceed for that cycle. From what I've read with the use of clomid, in general, ob/gyns will prescribe it, but not monitor their patients. Since you are seeing an RE, I would have to assume they will monitor via u/s. I hate to sound cynical, but my dr (mostly the nurses, actually) never passed up a chance to conduct a billable u/s! (3) Finally, just try to keep in the back of your mind that you may never get an answer to what is causing your losses. Of course, you should have whatever testing is appropriate, but even with that, based on the small amount of reading that I have done, it is still possible that you will not find any answers. If that is the case, it will undoubtedly be hard to accept/deal with, but keeping in the back of your mind that it may not be possible to find a cause, I hope, will make it slightly easier to accept.

 

[monkeyprincess]

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Dear Lizzy, thinking of you this weekend. I hope you are holding up as best as can be expected after the news you received on Friday. Again, I am so sorry for everything you have gone through these past few months. It sounds like you are ready to get even more proactive, and that is good. I really can't comment on any of your medical questions or have anything new to add that others haven't already said, but I just wanted to say that I'm a big believer in trusting your gut when it comes to medical providers. You are dealing with enough stress and anxiety, and worrying about whether your RE is giving your case the attention it deserves or willing to get to the bottom of your situation will only add unnecessary stress and frustration. If you still feel uncomfortable with her approach after tomorrow, I would get another referral. Please report back how your call goes tomorrow. I think you will feel so much better once you feel like you are doing something proactive, and I trust another little baby is in your future. Take care.

 

[lizzyann]

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NE, thank you. I am doing ok. This one was a little harder for me because after that first beta I truly felt in my heart this one was going to work out. I am going to push much harder now. Even if they can't give me answers, I at least want to be taken seriously. Thank you for all your support lady. And good luck to you for this next cycle.

LV, thanks for thinking of me and coming back with your additional valid points. Your first question is a good one. And I have added that to my list for tomorrow! I think because I have my DS that is definitely part of the reason that at my first appt with the RE she said she wasn't worried. But since that appt, I have had two more m/c's so I feel as though she should be relooking at my history and determining if there are add'l tests to be run now you know? With regards to your second question on the Clomid, I have already asked the nurse about being monitored and she said they do not always do that but if that is something I wanted, they would monitor me along the way. Based on my research on Clomid, it looks like the risks of multiples doesn't go up by that much. But at the same time, most of the people on Clomid are people who CAN"T GET pregnant. Because I am just the opposite, I feel like I would fall into that percentage that does end up having multiples. Now, don't get me wrong multiples are not the end of the world or anything. I feel that we could manage with twins, but triplets or more is just going to absolutely turn our life upside down and I'm not ready to take that risk yet. Your point about possibly never getting to the bottom of my issues is absolutely valid and I am fully aware that many of these go undiagnosed. And truly, if that is what it comes to then I am at peace with that and will try the Clomid if that is the best plan of action. I just feel that my OB ran preliminary recurrent m/c tests back in 08. And I feel that I have gone to an RE who didn't really take my problem seriously in the beginning and now that I have had two losses under her watch, I would like to see what they think should be done now. If they tell me that obviously something is causing these losses, but all of the proper tests have been exhausted then I will accept that. But if I hear tomorrow the same song and dance of "bad luck" and "these are just chemical pregnancies" then it will be time to find a new RE. (oh yah I forgot to mention that part too) She was so caught up on the fact that I was calling them m/c's and should have been calling them chemical pregnancies, that I actually turned to her and said "I truly don't care what their called, all I know is that it's a loss either way" You would think that RE's would have more compassion, but I think that they see people who try for years and they get completely jaded. Not an acceptable excuse, but I think that is part of the problem. Thank you for all of your points LV. You've given me a lot to think about.

Monkey, thank you for your kind words. And honestly, after writing the above to LV, unless I get a whole new attitude tomorrow from the RE, then I will most definitely be going to see a new RE. I am ok with no diagnoses, but at least make me feel that we've done all we can. Thank you again for posting! Where are you in your cycle now?

AFM, tomorrow morning I have blood work, then the RE is supposed to call me with those results and have a conversation. I have all of my questions written down to talk to her about. I also am going to put a call into my OB to see if I can get some of his time to get his opinion on all of this. My bb's are still sore and no bleeding has started yet. It kinda gives me false hope, but I'm trying not to fool myself. I know I am going thru yet again another disappointment, but ladies, please post with your updates ok? They are a good distraction for me! So who is in the 2ww now?!

 

[brown_eyes]

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Lizzy - I just wanted to pop in quickly while I have a minute to say that I am so sorry you are going through this again. I hope your RE (or your new one if you decide to switch) can come up with a game plan that you are satisfied with. I am glad that you will be armed with questions for your appointment. Hugs.

I will try to check in later for an update if I can sneak some more computer time. Thinking about all of you!!

 

[monkeyprincess]

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Lizzy, I think your plan is just right. Let us know what you hear and whether your RE finally gives your situation the attention it deserves. Since you asked for updates, I'll give you mine. I got a positive OPK on Friday and most likely ovulated on Saturday based on my temps the past two days, so that makes me 2 DPO. We managed to BD on O day and also the four days prior to that, so I would say we gave it our best shot this month. Praying we finally caught the egg! My husband's family is coming over in a few hours for dinner, and we were hoping we could hang out and eat outside, but is hot and really windy, so we had to change up our plans. Now I'm in cleaning and cooking mode and really need to get in the shower. Hope everyone has had a good weekend.

Brown, hope you are having a good time. Crossing my fingers really tightly for you! We need some good news around here.

I think maybe ally is also in the 2WW or else really close. Probably a few others too? Good luck this cycle everyone!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Re: The Official TTC Thread!

But if I hear tomorrow the same song and dance of "bad luck" and "these are just chemical pregnancies" then it will be time to find a new RE. (oh yah I forgot to mention that part too) She was so caught up on the fact that I was calling them m/c's and should have been calling them chemical pregnancies, that I actually turned to her and said "I truly don't care what their called, all I know is that it's a loss either way"

Seriously, this person has the worst bedside manner ever! Why does the technical name matter at all?? It could from a medical POV, and likely does, so write it in your chart lady, but correcting you... how does that help? Good lord, I am surprised she does not correct the "miscarriage" word and tell you to call it "spontaneous abortion" since I think that is the technical term for miscarriage too But people don't use it because it is hurtful to think of a loss that way!


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MP sounds like your bases are covered!

 

[curiousaboutdiamonds]

Re: The Official TTC Thread!

But if I hear tomorrow the same song and dance of "bad luck" and "these are just chemical pregnancies" then it will be time to find a new RE. (oh yah I forgot to mention that part too) She was so caught up on the fact that I was calling them m/c's and should have been calling them chemical pregnancies, that I actually turned to her and said "I truly don't care what their called, all I know is that it's a loss either way"

Seriously, this person has the worst bedside manner ever! Why does the technical name matter at all?? It could from a medical POV, and likely does, so write it in your chart lady, but correcting you... how does that help? Good lord, I am surprised she does not correct the "miscarriage" word and tell you to call it "spontaneous abortion" since I think that is the technical term for miscarriage too But people don't use it because it is hurtful to think of a loss that way!

This is so shocking I would think an RE would be more sympathetic and careful with what they say considering their line of work. Yes, definitely the worst bedside manner ever!!

Lizzy: You seem to be well-prepared for your appointment tomorrow. I agree with the others that you should definitely go with your gut and push for some answers. I don't have any experience with clomid or the prelim tests, so I'm not much help there. I just wanted to chime in and send you ::HUGS:: and lots of strength to move forward.

Brown: Fingers crossed that you have good news to share!

MP: Yay for being in the 2WW! You definitely covered all your bases so I hope you caught that egg!

LC and NEL: My cycle buddies, getting close to O for you ladies yet?

AFM: I was really hoping that I would O earlier than normal (which is anywhere from CD 18-27), but doesn't look like it's going to happen. I feel like this cold and some extra stress from work is delaying O. My temps are all over the place, OPKs getting darker then fading and now getting darker, but not dark enough to use the smiley ones to confirm, and CF going from fertile to non-existent. So I'm at CD17 and still waiting to O. Hope I'm in the 2ww by my birthday on Saturday.