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[mela lu]

I am humbled in your presence, DD.

Bravo!

....so, yah, what she said....

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/26/2008 10:45:53 AM
Author: mela lu
I am humbled in your presence, DD.

Bravo!

....so, yah, what she said....

LOL! I must seem like a complete charting wackadoo... I swear I don''t study this stuff, I am just "lucky"

to have a memory where I read something once and it is there for good. Comes in handy getting through 24 years of education, but it can be dangerous in other contexts

 

[mela lu]

Date: 8/26/2008 10:48:36 AM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/26/2008 10:45:53 AM

Author: mela lu

I am humbled in your presence, DD.

Bravo!


....so, yah, what she said....

LOL! I must seem like a complete charting wackadoo... I swear I don''t study this stuff, I am just ''lucky''

to have a memory where I read something once and it is there for good. Comes in handy getting through 24 years of education, but it can be dangerous in other contexts

no no. no whack-a-doodle-doo. I''m so grateful you are who you are so that we can benefit from your keen and fertile eye

I can''t wait to post my chart so that you can analyze it for me! HEE!

 

[radiantgirl]

HIL - I ended up getting a different thermometer, this one saving the last 5 temps. Love it so much better.

DD - Thanks so much for your detailed analysis. I asked girls on the nest and no one came close to your detailed description. I know I shouldn''t worry now, but just wanted to make sure we had our bases covered.

 

[february2003bride]

Lysser- I remember reading at www.peeonastick.com that even two tests in the same box can have different line shades. So one may have a line light or darker than the other (using the same up of urine).

So the early pregnancy tests.com aren''t really showing up for you? That''s what I''ve been using. Maybe I should go splurge on a name brand test...

 

[littlelysser]

HIl - Yup. Unfortunately, that is what I''m saying...I got positive results on two different brands of digitals and one CVS early test (that was my first, super faint line)...And nothing on two earlypregnancytest.com tests...BUT it might just be a wonky batch...

Thanks Radiant and HouMed!

Mela - I have a call into my OB about something else, so I think I''ll mention the test thing when I get a call back...my guess is they''ll tell me to relax...but I CAN''T RELAX!!!!

DD - Thanks for your response in the prego thread. trying to relax. not in my nature. trying to relax.

Thanks Ebree! I appreciate the info!!! Glad you had fun in Seattle!

Febbride - Nope. Didn''t show up for me...for whatever reason...

 

[Dreamer_D]

I don''t think the POAS.com tests are defective, I think they detect a higher level of HCG than the more expensive tests. But the more expensive tests are, well, more expensive

radiant you are covered completely, so whatever the actual O-day you just have to knit now! And if you want to see detailed chart analysis check out the comunity boards on www.ovusoft.com , the companion website for TCOYF. The charting gurus abound and will disect your chart the way we on PS disect diamond proportions!

 

[littlelysser]

Date: 8/26/2008 11:36:51 AM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
I don''t think the POAS.com tests are defective, I think they detect a higher level of HCG than the more expensive tests. But the more expensive tests are, well, more expensive

I was just telling DH the same thing...he was calling the internet tests, "the scam tests" and I told him that really wasn''t it...they just detect a higher level...

 

[happy in love]

Date: 8/26/2008 11:46:39 AM
Author: littlelysser

Date: 8/26/2008 11:36:51 AM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
I don''t think the POAS.com tests are defective, I think they detect a higher level of HCG than the more expensive tests. But the more expensive tests are, well, more expensive

I was just telling DH the same thing...he was calling the internet tests, ''the scam tests'' and I told him that really wasn''t it...they just detect a higher level...

Man, I''m bummed. I thought on peeonastick.com they were rated one of the more sensitive tests so I stocked up. Oh well, at least they weren''t expensive!

I am sitting at home now, almost not knowing what to do with myself. I was supposed to have a massage this morning, but my therapist is sick

So, what, I mean am I supposed to go from relaxing massage to tackling the hampers full of laundry instead? YUCK!

 

[neatfreak]

The "internet" tests vary widely in their sensitivity, so you need to make sure you''re buying the right ones I think. The super sensitive ones are good down to 20/25 MIU. FWIW, that is how I got my BFP...so they ain''t all bad! They are just harder to read than the really expensive digital tests that spit out an answer for you ya know?

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Oh, I just wrote a LONG post and then an error message came up. Here''s hoping this one works:

I just charted my temp for today on FF. I''m still sick, still home from work, but today, I have a fever. That made my temp this AM sky-rocket. Now FF has the temp charted as a dot, but without a line connecting it to yesterday''s temp. I wonder why it''s doing that? I hope it won''t effect it being able to determine if I''m ovulating. Anyone know about that?

So, since I have a fever, I''m home from work again. I don''t want to pass on the hot flashes and cold sweats, you know? I''m just nice like that. (Did I mention Paul gave me this sickness because a co-worker came to work sick and passed it on to him?)

Paul was right; he thought the circles on the FF calendar were linked to the moon''s cycle. I should listen to that boy more often, I suppose. Maybe.

DD, I totally missed that you were pregnant! Congratulations. I hope it''s going well for you! 13 weeks is a good place to be; that''s when the sickness symptoms are supposed to taper off. Hope that''s true for you!!

It also looks like several of you ladies are nearing the end of your 2 week waiting period. Yay! Pee on a stick for all it''s worth. I know it becomes like an obsession, but eventually, it''ll be so exciting when that thing has two lines!! Yay!

Here''s hoping it''s coming SOON for many of us!!!

 

[am04]

Thanks Pandora, LL, Mela Lu and HIL! I tested this morning, BFN. No signs of AF, but I don't normally have PMS so we'll see when/if she shows.

Blushing Bride-you are much stronger than me, I've been testing since 8 dpo. That's the problem with cheap test strips...no need for restraint!

Pandora- hang in there! We tried to bd every day and it can be exhausting...so we bd on o day and didn't worry about the day after. I think a lot of people say bd on 1 dpo as well...we just didn't have the energy!

NYC and Feb- sorry about the BFNs...so frustrating!

Mela Lu- Enjoy your time in NYC!

Radiant- Glad to hear you had a nice trip!

DD- thanks for always chiming in. I took your advice and drank lots of water this cycle...did notice a change in my cm. I also noticed that this cycle I had lots of creamy cm (post-ovulation) up until yesterday, 9dpo. Yesterday it changed to watery, probably the breaking down of my lining. Ah well.

Fisher and Amber- Hope you are feeling better today!

 

[NYCsparkle]

Well its official...AFF knocked on my door.

hopefully someone else gets their BFP this month.

 

[Pandora II]

Just out of interest did/are any of you using Pre Seed?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Fisher FF will just leave that temp out of its calculations for O-day. It discarded it because you must have marked down something that is a red flag: maybe fever in the "symptoms" section, or maybe the time it was taken. No worries, you are a-okay.

am that is cool that drinking water helped! It''s true that your watery CF could be the lining breaking down, but it could also be pregnancy, time will tell!

NYCsparkle sorry about AFF!! But its CD 1 of a new cycle now! Go get drunk to celebrate!

 

[happy in love]

Pandora- we used the Pre external stuff last time. I wasn''t ready to try PreSeed, it seemed too weird to me. BUT... I ordered the PreSeed so we will be using it this go ''round.

 

[february2003bride]

NYC- I''m so sorry.

I may be right behind you. I took a digital EPT Certaintly and it was a BFN. Oh well.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/26/2008 12:49:55 PM
Author: february2003bride
NYC- I'm so sorry.

I may be right behind you. I took a digital EPT Certaintly and it was a BFN. Oh well.

It is still too early!

 

[tiffanytwisted]

Date: 8/26/2008 12:37:19 PM
Author: Pandora II
Just out of interest did/are any of you using Pre Seed?

We''ve been using PreSeed. The applicator is kind of wacky, but the actual "stuff" is fine.

 

[am04]

NYC- so sorry about AF...

DD- do you know anything about B6? I''m feeling out of touch this cycle as I started B6 (100 mg a day) attempting to lengthen my luteal phase. So far I think it made me ovulate 3 days later. Could that have changed my cm as well (made it creamy every day after ovulation)? Just thought I''d call on your photographic memory...

Pandora- we used preseed twice (I think). We used it when my body didn''t cooperate. I''ve never used a lubricant before, so I don''t have anything to compare it to. I thought it was ok though...

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 8/26/2008 12:53:46 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/26/2008 12:49:55 PM
Author: february2003bride
NYC- I'm so sorry.

I may be right behind you. I took a digital EPT Certaintly and it was a BFN. Oh well.

It is still too early!

I now crown you, our TTC cheerleader and mentor

You're right, I'm just being impatient!! Actually, I am having some serious cramps today but on my right lower abdomen for some reason? And normally I spot a day or 2 before AF, and nuthin' this time.

ETA: I'm CD26 and 10DPO, so yeah still too early I guess! *pout*

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/26/2008 1:14:23 PM
Author: february2003bride

I now crown you, our TTC cheerleader and mentor

LOL! Can I put that on my resume?

em04 I have read about a lot of people using it, and a while back in this thread we did some research and decided that it was hard to know what the correct dosage should be... some women swear that it makes their LP longer, I personally am more sceptical about whether it works and also whether it is required. True luteal phase defects are really really rare. Moreover, I have seen lots of stories about people getting pg with LPs around 10 days. Mine was always shorter like that, so was Lyssers if I recall correctly. I doubt it affected your ovulation date, that could have been anything! One thing to consider about this cycle is that it may be different because your body''s hormones are getting back to normal after the pill or other hbc. Did you take hormonal birth control and if so when did you stop taking it? I mention this because a later ovulation (by 2 days) could actually mean a stronger ovulation based on more estrogen, which would also cause more fertile CF and more CF post-ovulation too. I had this the cycle I got pregnant, my CF was more plentiful the entire cycle, and I O''d on CD 16. Anyways, it can''t hurt to take B6 (as long as the dose is safe... I think that 100mg is a lot so you may want to look into it), but with an 11 day LP you are probably okay anyways. And the other changes may just be positive signs about your hormones!

 

[blushingbride]

AM04 - I tested early last cycle and it only lead to disappointment and stress so, I''m just going to cruise along for the next few days. I have Labor Day plans this weekend in which I''m leaving town for so, I''d like to know something before I go. We''ll see... I just hate that feeling of seeing a BFN and then thinking, "why did I do this to myself and test so early!?"

 

[Pandora II]

NYC - I''m so sorry.

Fingers crossed for next time.

Go and stuff yourself silly with large amounts of sashimi, soft cheeses and alcohol.


I bought a load of Preseed and started using it this cycle - I''m pretty impressed with it so far, don''t know how proactively good it is as far as TTC is concerned though. The side-effects of my meds means I normally use something anyway, and this stuff is way nicer than anything else I have tried.

I''ve feeling very proud of myself having managed to halve one of my meds over the last week (the bad one) and I''m going to try to cut it down again tomorrow so I''ll only be on 25mg instead of 100mg. So far so good, but I can''t go any lower than that.

I also got the Rx for my 5mg folic acid tablets so I am now just taking the one pill a day rather than 13 of the 400 microgram ones!

 

[am04]

DD- Thanks so much, you are the best! Here is a little background...I have been tracking my cycle for the last 5 months using CBFM and opks (I sleep with my mouth open so temping didn''t work). I''ve always ovulated on cd 13-14. I haven''t been on hbc for 3 years (it messed with my body too much so we''ve been using condoms) so the only thing different this cycle was the B6 (no stress or illness that would have delayed o, but I guess you never know). I had just read that B6 can also delay ovulation so I just (probably wrongly) assumed that was why I o''d so late. I was a little concerned that 100 mg is too much (but have also read that the body flushes out what it doesn''t use and that women tend to take 50-300 mg to lengthen their luteal phase). Don''t know if I''ll use it next cycle, I guess I''ll see how long my luteal phase lasts this time (if I don''t get a bfp, that is). I know that true luteal phase defects are rare, I just hate being on the 10-day line between being normal and having a potential problem! Glad to hear that the increased cm after ovulation may be a sign of stronger ovulation. Sorry for writing a novel...

One last question...if my period always comes 11dpo (like clockwork between 6 and 11 am) does that mean I have a 10 day luteal phase (which is what I''ve been thinking) or an 11 day luteal phase? Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it!

 

[am04]

Date: 8/26/2008 1:26:45 PM
Author: blushingbride
AM04 - I tested early last cycle and it only lead to disappointment and stress so, I''m just going to cruise along for the next few days. I have Labor Day plans this weekend in which I''m leaving town for so, I''d like to know something before I go. We''ll see... I just hate that feeling of seeing a BFN and then thinking, ''why did I do this to myself and test so early!?''

Yeah, I''m kind of kicking myself right now. I''ll keep my fingers crossed that you get a BFP before you leave!

 

[robbie3982]

If your period comes at 11dpo then you have a 10 day luteal phase. The day AF comes is day 1 of a new cycle so it doesn''t count.

 

[am04]

Robbie- Thanks!

Pandora- Congrats on decreasing your meds...quite an accomplishment!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/26/2008 1:47:08 PM
Author: am04
DD- Thanks so much, you are the best! Here is a little background...I have been tracking my cycle for the last 5 months using CBFM and opks (I sleep with my mouth open so temping didn''t work). I''ve always ovulated on cd 13-14. I haven''t been on hbc for 3 years (it messed with my body too much so we''ve been using condoms) so the only thing different this cycle was the B6 (no stress or illness that would have delayed o, but I guess you never know). I had just read that B6 can also delay ovulation so I just (probably wrongly) assumed that was why I o''d so late. I was a little concerned that 100 mg is too much (but have also read that the body flushes out what it doesn''t use and that women tend to take 50-300 mg to lengthen their luteal phase). Don''t know if I''ll use it next cycle, I guess I''ll see how long my luteal phase lasts this time (if I don''t get a bfp, that is). I know that true luteal phase defects are rare, I just hate being on the 10-day line between being normal and having a potential problem! Glad to hear that the increased cm after ovulation may be a sign of stronger ovulation. Sorry for writing a novel...

One last question...if my period always comes 11dpo (like clockwork between 6 and 11 am) does that mean I have a 10 day luteal phase (which is what I''ve been thinking) or an 11 day luteal phase? Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it!

I''d hadn''t heard that about B6 delaying ovulation, but who knows! I''d guess that means you have a 10 day LP, which is on the shorter end BUT... and this is a big ol'' BUT... since you aren''t temping you don''t know the exact day you ovulated! Note, for example, that Radiant had positive OPKs for two days after she apparently ovulated... so you could be O-ing earlier than you think.

You know, many women who cannot temp orally will instead temp vaginally. I think you just use a regular basal thermometer, the temps will be similar to what you would get orally. If this month isn''t it for you, and you want to have as much information as possible, then I''d totally try that out. Just keep it in a safe place and don''t let anyone stick it in their mouth

. All you have to do is wipe it with a cloth afterwards, the vajayjay is actually much cleaner than the mouth.

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 8/26/2008 2:00:58 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/26/2008 1:47:08 PM
Author: am04
DD- Thanks so much, you are the best! Here is a little background...I have been tracking my cycle for the last 5 months using CBFM and opks (I sleep with my mouth open so temping didn''t work). I''ve always ovulated on cd 13-14. I haven''t been on hbc for 3 years (it messed with my body too much so we''ve been using condoms) so the only thing different this cycle was the B6 (no stress or illness that would have delayed o, but I guess you never know). I had just read that B6 can also delay ovulation so I just (probably wrongly) assumed that was why I o''d so late. I was a little concerned that 100 mg is too much (but have also read that the body flushes out what it doesn''t use and that women tend to take 50-300 mg to lengthen their luteal phase). Don''t know if I''ll use it next cycle, I guess I''ll see how long my luteal phase lasts this time (if I don''t get a bfp, that is). I know that true luteal phase defects are rare, I just hate being on the 10-day line between being normal and having a potential problem! Glad to hear that the increased cm after ovulation may be a sign of stronger ovulation. Sorry for writing a novel...

One last question...if my period always comes 11dpo (like clockwork between 6 and 11 am) does that mean I have a 10 day luteal phase (which is what I''ve been thinking) or an 11 day luteal phase? Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it!

I''d hadn''t heard that about B6 delaying ovulation, but who knows! I''d guess that means you have a 10 day LP, which is on the shorter end BUT... and this is a big ol'' BUT... since you aren''t temping you don''t know the exact day you ovulated! Note, for example, that Radiant had positive OPKs for two days after she apparently ovulated... so you could be O-ing earlier than you think.

You know, many women who cannot temp orally will instead temp vaginally. I think you just use a regular basal thermometer, the temps will be similar to what you would get orally. If this month isn''t it for you, and you want to have as much information as possible, then I''d totally try that out. Just keep it in a safe place and don''t let anyone stick it in their mouth

. All you have to do is wipe it with a cloth afterwards, the vajayjay is actually much cleaner than the mouth.

I''ll have to tell my husband that