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[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/19/2008 4:13:23 PM
Author: robbie3982
My bad. I could''ve sworn everything I''ve read has said 20% even with perfect timing.

I think that stat is slightly different than the ones we cited... if 100 people try to get preggo in one month, then 20 will get preggo! If 100 people all do the f-tastic the day before ovulation, then a whopping 40 get preggo!

It all averages out to be 1 in 5 each month. So you are right too!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/19/2008 4:12:28 PM
Author: applequeen
I''m not sure the stats will matter much in my case... my husband will be thrilled at the possiblity of getting busy so often.

I''m just hoping my sex drive comes back after I stop taking these stupid pills...all the more reason to stop them ASAP.

It is a different kind of sex drive that prompts the marathon I think... like, an animal urge to procreate and get the job done, rather than another animal urge, like Amber''s urge to ride Phelps like a dolphin

Where there is a will there is a way!

 

[robbie3982]

Date: 8/19/2008 6:37:29 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/19/2008 4:13:23 PM

Author: robbie3982

My bad. I could''ve sworn everything I''ve read has said 20% even with perfect timing.

I think that stat is slightly different than the ones we cited... if 100 people try to get preggo in one month, then 20 will get preggo! If 100 people all do the f-tastic the day before ovulation, then a whopping 40 get preggo!


It all averages out to be 1 in 5 each month. So you are right too!

Ah, got it. It''s been a while since I took statistics

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Melu,

Pretty kitchen backsplash! Good job!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/19/2008 7:27:46 PM
Author: robbie3982

Date: 8/19/2008 6:37:29 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/19/2008 4:13:23 PM

Author: robbie3982

My bad. I could''ve sworn everything I''ve read has said 20% even with perfect timing.

I think that stat is slightly different than the ones we cited... if 100 people try to get preggo in one month, then 20 will get preggo! If 100 people all do the f-tastic the day before ovulation, then a whopping 40 get preggo!


It all averages out to be 1 in 5 each month. So you are right too!

Ah, got it. It''s been a while since I took statistics

LOL! Luckily, you don''t need to know any stats to get KTFU... the actual activities involved are much easier and infinitely more fun!

 

[littlelysser]

Good evening all!

I''m in Chicago. Spent the day with my bestie and her AMAZINGLY sweet daughter, Mae. I''ve spent a pretty decent amount of time with Mae, but haven''t seen her in like 8 months...she''s 18 months old...and although she didn''t recognize me per se, she warmed up to me super quick and was jumping in my lap like 10 minutes after we got back from the airport. Made me happy.

On a TTC note, I''m at CD 24, 7 DPO (I''ve decided FF can take those two random temps and discard them, it makes me feel better. Does that mean I''m a nutter, well, most likely, yes). No signs of AFF. Which is good. My last cycle was 25 days...and I had brown/pink CM for a day or two before it arrived. So that makes me happy...I don''t think I''m prego, but it does mean that my cycle may FINALLY be normalizing after going off the pill. Yay!

I''m trying to decide when to test...haven''t POAS''d once yet! I feel so proud!

Lulu - Interesting you should mention the whole totally not feeling KTFU...I feel exactly the same way. I suppose it is better to feel this way than SURE I''m KTFU only to find that I''m not. You know?

Po - another one of the oft used acronyms if KTFU...Knocked the F Up. We curse a lot here, even in acronyms. I wonder if that is normal for a TTC board? If not, yet another way in which this group rocks...also, welcome!

HIL - I tried to step away from the chart...but I CAN''T DO IT!

Amber - I hope you aren''t getting sick. Summer colds are the worst! My DH is from Holland...so iff''n you need any tips on the little pancake things, let me know! Are you talking about the fried dough balls or the teeeny pancakes?

AQ - The pill KILLED my sex drive. I noticed a big difference once I went off of it. DH was very pleased about that fact! And on the plus side, I think most of us here are control freaks and/or planners...so although we can''t do anything to actually plan things...at least we can know we are in good company when we complain about it!

CC - I have NO idea how anyone gets prego on accident. It seems they are either the luckiest, or unluckiest, folks in the world.

Indy and DD - you ladies rock. I''m glad you stick around with us non-jerkstores and bathe us in your statistical awesome-osity!

 

[E B]

Date: 8/19/2008 4:26:34 PM
Author: lovelylulu
ebree: did you get the egg icon? i can't remember if you hadn't as of yestday or today - in any event we'll be glad to have a new member join the spectacular tww.

lu-

Unfortunately not. I don't know what's going on. If I don't get the egg tomorrow, I'm just going to assume I already ovulated. I wish I knew when.

Fingers crossed to lulu and LL- 7 DPO is an exciting time!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

LL, how long have you been off the pill?

I am so amazed that a little tiny pill you only take once a day can have such lasting effects. I''m *so* never going back on that thing again!

***
As for my temps so far, I''ve only had one "rise" temp, just at random. The A/C programmed itself off that night (don''t know why), but I always sleep all covered and tucked in, so I woke up hot and sweaty when it was time to temp, and it was .6 higher than the day before. That was just that one day, though. I checked FF and it said that''s fine.

I think what we''ve decided to do is to do some more charting before I go to a doctor, if I need to. I''d hate to go in with nothing written down other than cycle lengths and say, "Um we want a baby and I don''t know if I''m dropping an egg or not." Paul feels like I''m letting one cycle totally defeat me and make me think that I''m not ovulating, so I''m going to do my very best to temp at the same time (which has been working really well now that we''re not on vacation two time zones away from home). So far, I feel good about the temps, because the chart previous to this month was NUTS, it was like peaks and drops all along the dang thing. Then FF just made this dotted line from one plot line to the next. Totally odd looking!

I looked online for Ovulation Predictors and the most economical seems to be the fern testing with saliva; anyone use those? A friend of mine has one and she loves it and said that it took time to get down what to look for, but it worked well for her. There is one that is supposed to be the size of a tube of lipstick and it''s reusable over and over and it''s under 30 bucks. I''m thinking about it, since I''d have to test so often to find an ovulation time if my cycles continue to be long. Anyone ever used one or have any suggestions regarding their use?

Good luck to the two week waiters! I love to see "graduates" from this group!!

 

[Independent Gal]

Hey Fishy, don''t knock the pill too much! It does a lot of great stuff for you too. For instance, one of the studies I read showed that having taken the pill for a long time (I think it was 8+ years?) statistically significantly reduces your chance of having a miscarriage. Nobody knows why yet. And then there''s the usual stuff: 70% lower chance of having ovarian cancer, 50% lower chance of endometrial cancer, lower blood loss = less anemia = more iron for your gestating bebes (and YOU!) when the time comes...anemia is very bad for pregnant ladies, 20% lower chance of benign ovarian tumors, ovarian cysts and fibroids, all of which can result in surgeries that could affect your fertility.

Plus, the newest studies are suggesting that the correlation once suggested between breast cancer and the pill is not reliable.

So, sure, it can make your cycles wonky for a while, but if it saves you from having cancer in your reproductive organs, or from having a miscarriage, or from anemia in pregnancy, then hey, that''s good stuff!

Just my morning shout out to the good ol'' BCP! Not all the long term effects are bad.

Fishy, I haven''t been totally keeping up with this thread. Did you ever get to talk to a RESPECTFUL doctor about your crazy long cycle? Also, if you go on FF, there are lots and lots of charts of looooong cycles with happy BFP at the end!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Fisher I know it is hard, but really try not to get to bent out of shape about your long cycle. It is so so so common for women to have long or annovulatory cycles every once in a while, and in only a small percentage of cases do such cycles predict fertility issues!

I think your plan to chart this month is a really good one, and really all you need to do is monitor you cervical fluid and your temps. Both are equally important! I have heard of saliva ferning, but remember it involved looking at your saliva under a microscope, so it is much more complex than waking each morning to take your temps. I am very sure that this month you will see a pattern emerge. If your typical cycles were around 30 - 35 days pre-pill, then don''t expect to ovulate (and therefore see a temp shift) before CD -15, but it could be as late as CD-20. Watch your CF to see when ovulation approacher, it will be your BEST signal.

Good luck girlie!

 

[lovelylulu]

Date: 8/19/2008 8:48:25 PM
Author: littlelysser
Good evening all!

I'm trying to decide when to test...haven't POAS'd once yet! I feel so proud!

Ha! That was my news of the day to report. I woke up this morning - DPO 8 - and was really tempted to POAS. fortunately, logic prevailed and i saved myself the disappointment of an inevitable BNF. However...yesterday, i did notice a pinkish-brownish *tinge* to my CM. It's about a week until I expect AFF, so I would be completely convinced that this was implantation bleeding. BUT. the same thing happened last cycle. for some odd reason, i had really light, mostly pink/darkish spotting for nearly a week

.

so, is this a fateful sign that AFF is on her way?? is it implantation bleeding?? will these d%mn questions ever end??!%$

enough about me...

LittleL: chicago in the summer. what a fabulous place to be. have fun!!

ebree:

to the CBE or to clomid affecting the CBE. it certainly is frustrating that we can have little to no idea what's actually going on in our bodies at any given time...

fisher: ditto to what indy said - perhaps what you need to do is talk to a respectful dr. about what's going on with your cycle.

 

[applequeen]

Date: 8/19/2008 6:38:59 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/19/2008 4:12:28 PM
Author: applequeen
I''m not sure the stats will matter much in my case... my husband will be thrilled at the possiblity of getting busy so often.

I''m just hoping my sex drive comes back after I stop taking these stupid pills...all the more reason to stop them ASAP.

It is a different kind of sex drive that prompts the marathon I think... like, an animal urge to procreate and get the job done, rather than another animal urge, like Amber''s urge to ride Phelps like a dolphin

Where there is a will there is a way!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... the Phelps thing cracks me up... and the mental picture of riding him like a dolphin almost made me spew coffee all over my computer. Poor guy (actually there is no reason to feel sorry for him)... he''s got such a great body but once he opens his mouth he sort of ruins it all.

As for the animal urge to procreate... I guess it''s all instinctive....now i have that horrible song that was out several years ago the one that goes "You and me baby ain''t nothing but mammals so let''s do it like they do on the Discovery Channel" or however it went... If I''ve now ruined anyone''s day by putting that song in your head then I apologize... I shouldn''t have to suffer alone.

littleelysser... that''s great to hear that things got better once you went off the pill. I''ve been afraid that maybe it wouldn''t go back. But I also understand that when you''re TTC it''s a different kind of motivation.

 

[E B]

We have a peak reading! A peak reading!

*flails*

 

[lovelylulu]

Date: 8/20/2008 9:36:36 AM
Author: EBree
We have a peak reading! A peak reading!

*flails*

Excellent! Now, go make a baby

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/20/2008 9:36:36 AM
Author: EBree
We have a peak reading! A peak reading!

*flails*

Yipppeeeeeee!! What CD are you at? How many days is this after the u/s showed your follies? Just curious and also wondering how many eggs may get dropped potentially

 

[E B]

Date: 8/20/2008 9:45:46 AM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/20/2008 9:36:36 AM

Author: EBree

We have a peak reading! A peak reading!


*flails*

Yipppeeeeeee!! What CD are you at? How many days is this after the u/s showed your follies? Just curious and also wondering how many eggs may get dropped potentially

You know, I was just thinking about that. I''m at CD 16, and the majority of women (or so I''ve read) ovulate on the second peak day of the CBEFM. Hmmm. Plus, if all those follies (4) were at 12mm on CD 11, and they''ve all been growing since then.......AHHHH! I also find it interesting that Clomid is supposed to put you on a more regular cycle, but during most of my unmedicated cycles, I''ve ovulated before CD 17.

I''m actually very confused now. I have no idea what''s going on. Arg!

 

[littlelysser]

Fisher - this is my fourth cycle off the pill. I had taken it for YEARS before going off. My cycles have been wonky since going off of it...between 25 and 33 days...Hopefully they''ll even out soon!

AQ - I noticed a huge difference in my sex drive...I think it was the combo of going off the pill and TTC! Like I said, DH was pleased.

I know BCP is a great idea for some people, but I don''t think I''ll go on it again. Assuming I get prego at some point, we''ll have to figure out another form of birth control.

Lulu - We are both showing amazing restraint! I''m actually kind of happy that I haven''t seen any tinged CM...because the last two months, I had it...got a bit excited, then it was that darn AFF. It really stinks that it is a sign of one or the other...I''m definitely sending you STRONG implantation vibes!!!!

Ebree - YAY!!!! GO catch an egg!!!!!!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/20/2008 10:01:52 AM
Author: EBree

Date: 8/20/2008 9:45:46 AM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/20/2008 9:36:36 AM

Author: EBree

We have a peak reading! A peak reading!


*flails*

Yipppeeeeeee!! What CD are you at? How many days is this after the u/s showed your follies? Just curious and also wondering how many eggs may get dropped potentially

You know, I was just thinking about that. I''m at CD 16, and the majority of women (or so I''ve read) ovulate on the second peak day of the CBEFM. Hmmm. Plus, if all those follies (4) were at 12mm on CD 11, and they''ve all been growing since then.......AHHHH! I also find it interesting that Clomid is supposed to put you on a more regular cycle, but during most of my unmedicated cycles, I''ve ovulated before CD 17.

I''m actually very confused now. I have no idea what''s going on. Arg!

If I recall correctly, Lisa said something like they can grow 1 mm or more per day, and it will have been 6 days since the u/s, so there could be 2 ready to go! If that''s the case, they often go on consecutive days, so don''t be surprised if you get a peak for more days than you''d expect, that may just reflect multiple eggs?? Still, here''s hoping for one healthy sucker.

Your doc said she wanted to use clomid to get your eggs healthier, so I think the later ovulation is a good thing. It allows your estrogen to really build up and that may help you create a really healthy, strong egg! Go eggs!

 

[robbie3982]

Yay ebree!!!

 

[blushingbride]

Woo Hoo Ebree!!!

Best of luck to you!

 

[AmberWaves]

Yay Ebree!

Good job not POAS LL and Lulu!!

I''m just sitting here sneezing (DANG!) and waiting for AFF to move along, since there is NOTHING to see here. She really is just such a BITCH.

Now... Ebree go along and catch that egg!!!

 

[happy in love]

Yay EBree! I hope you catch one of those eggs this time

 

[robbie3982]

Has anyone ever had their temp go back up to post-O level after dropping off the day AF came? My temp dropped to pre-O levels on Sunday. AF showed up about 10pm. Monday my temp was still down. Tuesday and today though it's been at my post-O level which has never happened before. So of course over analyzation/wishful thinking led to me merging this chart with last month's. What do you guys think? Is it possible that this isn't actually AF even though it seems just like it is? Is it possible that I just O'd on CD2? Agh, what is going on???

ETA: The chart on the left is without merging cycles and the chart on the right shows them merged.

 

[blushingbride]

OK - I''m confused too....I had a temp shift on Monday which makes me think that I may have O''d on Sunday (I''ve had three high (higher than usual) temps on Mon., Tues. and today.

However, I also had a very clear positive OPK test (Answer brand) this morning, BUT I just took a CBE OPK and it''s negative. I''m so confused...did I O or not yet? BTW - I just checked and my CM is more creamy - not EW. Help!

 

[blushingbride]

Here''s my chart just so you girls can see....I thought I had a positive OPK (Answer brand) on Monday, but again, the CBE OPK said negative. However, today the Answer OPK was clearly positive today so, I took away the one from Monday and put a positive down for today.

 

[blushingbride]

Wow...that''s small...not sure how to make it big enough for me to post with out going over the size limit.

 

[lovelylulu]

I''m sorry that i can''t do more to alleviate all of the confusion that is tearing through this thread - but i can contribute this pearl of wisdom

"when in doubt, BD!"

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 8/20/2008 11:57:06 AM
Author: lovelylulu
I''m sorry that i can''t do more to alleviate all of the confusion that is tearing through this thread - but i can contribute this pearl of wisdom

''when in doubt, BD!''

Thanks LL - and that''s exactly what we''ve been doing, but I just feel so lost ever since last cycle when I wasn''t temping or charting while on vacation for so long. It sucks because before then, I had a sense of what was going on, but I think that international vacation really threw me off.

 

[robbie3982]

Date: 8/20/2008 11:57:06 AM
Author: lovelylulu
I''m sorry that i can''t do more to alleviate all of the confusion that is tearing through this thread - but i can contribute this pearl of wisdom


''when in doubt, BD!''

LOL.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Robbie temps can indeed be all over the place during AFF, apparently, as hormines get back on track. Are you feeling ill at all? I had a digestional issue (like really low grade food poisoning) during AFF that spiked my temps for a couple days and I also thought I must be preggo, but a few days later temps went back to normal. You can always POAS to know for sure, but otherwise you will just have to wait and see what your temps do over the next couple days. I bet they go down again. ETA sorry I don't mean that to sound mean, I would love it if this is implantation spotting and you are preggo! It is possible, so POAS to be sure. ETAA I looked at your chart more, and with those missing temps it is really hard to tell when you O'd! Maybe it was on CD22?? Time and more temps will tell!

Blushing well this is the problem with OPKs. TCOYF has much bad things to say about them, as they can be all over the place with the info they provide. It is hard to see a clear pattern in your chart... there was a temp rise last week that went down again, and then the rise a few days ago. If I had to guess, I tink you O'd on CD-16. I think you should exclude those super high temps on CD 8 and CD 15, if you do that the pattern may make more sense. Then if tomorrows temp is high you know you O'd! Just keep on DTD and wait and see what happens! You know you O, you know your cycles are good, so this abberation is just that, an abberation, and it doesn't mean you won't get KTFU as long as you keep on keepin' on!