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[lovelylulu]

Thanks Little - DD does offer stellar advice!

*sprinkle* *sprinkle*

because it sounds like there might be one littleLL coming our way

 

[jcrow]

Date: 8/21/2008 9:58:25 AM
Author: Independent Gal

Date: 8/20/2008 11:03:50 PM

Author: mela lu

in unrelated news, I too suffer those bitter betty days where I smile through gritted teeth at all those ''accidental pregnancies'', ''perfect pregnancies'' and in general, those who''ve never had to work for something in their lives. Rarrh. Those are the days when I''m 5 yrs old saying ''But it''s not FAIR!''. sigh. Then I shake it off and do what I do best; force myself to re-focus on the positive.

You know, Mela, I was thinking about this the other day too. I''ve been through some crazy messed up sh!t in my life that I never talk about with anyone. And for the first few years after I had worked like mad to piece a life together, I used to have those kinds of thoughts a lot: ''These people have NO IDEA. They just don''t know how hard and awful things can be or how others struggle. Everything comes easy for them.'' Then gradually, prying below the surface, I started to realize that most people have crosses to bear. Many people that you wouldn''t expect have worked hard for, or struggled through, things you''d never expect. Pry below the surface and you find that Ms. Perfect Life suffered through the death of a child, and Mr. Perfect Life watched his mother and father be killed in a war, or that this person has been fighting cancer since he was 25 or that person was a runaway or abused or dealing with mental health challenges, or this person is a recovered drug addict, or has a brother who killed himself. Very, very few peoples'' lives are as seamless and free of pain as they appear on the surface. Many, if not most people carry some sort of burden, some of them unspeakable, and most of them unspoken. So I have learned to assume that whatever my troubles and challenges are or have been, to really fight down those feelings of bitterness when others seem to have an easy time.

Sure, it''s true that most people have no idea what it''s like to face the sorts of things that I''ve faced and am facing, and I have no idea what it''s like to face the sort of things that others have faced. So I just assume that each of us has our cross or our burden to bear and try not to think about the grass being greener.

Because you really just never know what others have been through, or how the grass really looks on the other side.

thank you indy for your post. it just strengthened and brightened my day.

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 8/21/2008 9:58:25 AM
Author: Independent Gal

Date: 8/20/2008 11:03:50 PM
Author: mela lu

in unrelated news, I too suffer those bitter betty days where I smile through gritted teeth at all those ''accidental pregnancies'', ''perfect pregnancies'' and in general, those who''ve never had to work for something in their lives. Rarrh. Those are the days when I''m 5 yrs old saying ''But it''s not FAIR!''. sigh. Then I shake it off and do what I do best; force myself to re-focus on the positive.

You know, Mela, I was thinking about this the other day too. I''ve been through some crazy messed up sh!t in my life that I never talk about with anyone. And for the first few years after I had worked like mad to piece a life together, I used to have those kinds of thoughts a lot: ''These people have NO IDEA. They just don''t know how hard and awful things can be or how others struggle. Everything comes easy for them.'' Then gradually, prying below the surface, I started to realize that most people have crosses to bear. Many people that you wouldn''t expect have worked hard for, or struggled through, things you''d never expect. Pry below the surface and you find that Ms. Perfect Life suffered through the death of a child, and Mr. Perfect Life watched his mother and father be killed in a war, or that this person has been fighting cancer since he was 25 or that person was a runaway or abused or dealing with mental health challenges, or this person is a recovered drug addict, or has a brother who killed himself. Very, very few peoples'' lives are as seamless and free of pain as they appear on the surface. Many, if not most people carry some sort of burden, some of them unspeakable, and most of them unspoken. So I have learned to assume that whatever my troubles and challenges are or have been, to really fight down those feelings of bitterness when others seem to have an easy time.

Sure, it''s true that most people have no idea what it''s like to face the sorts of things that I''ve faced and am facing, and I have no idea what it''s like to face the sort of things that others have faced. So I just assume that each of us has our cross or our burden to bear and try not to think about the grass being greener.

Because you really just never know what others have been through, or how the grass really looks on the other side.

Indy- This is very true. I''ve known one of my neighbors for almost 5 years. As long as I have known her, her family has what seemed to be the perfect life. She has a beautiful smart 10 year old daughter, a caring husband and she''s able to stay at home, something she loves. I just found out 2 days ago that her daughter is actually adopted (at birth) and the mom is in therapy because the 10 year old daughter BEATS the mother. Apparently the daughter''s temper is so bad and she constantly tells her mother that she hates her and that she wants to move away and my neighbor is actually afraid of her. This little girl plays with my daughter quite a bit and I would have NEVER thought anything was going on. And I before I found this out, I could have confidently say that I knew this family fairly well.

 

[littlelysser]

Date: 8/21/2008 12:10:34 PM
Author: lovelylulu
Thanks Little - DD does offer stellar advice!


*sprinkle* *sprinkle*


because it sounds like there might be one littleLL coming our way

Thanks Lulu!

I''m starting to think I might possibly be prego...but I KNOW that I''ll be on here in a day or two saying that AFF has arrived...or my temps dropped or there is some indication that she''ll be arriving soon.

But I just checked my cervix and it was so high I could hardly reach it. I checked on FF, and the past two cycles it was low the 5 days prior to AFF coming...

This stinks...I so don''t want to get my stupid hopes up, like I do every month...but blergh! I''m afraid I''ve done it again!!!!

 

[Sha]

Date: 8/21/2008 9:58:25 AM
Author: Independent Gal

Date: 8/20/2008 11:03:50 PM
Author: mela lu

in unrelated news, I too suffer those bitter betty days where I smile through gritted teeth at all those ''accidental pregnancies'', ''perfect pregnancies'' and in general, those who''ve never had to work for something in their lives. Rarrh. Those are the days when I''m 5 yrs old saying ''But it''s not FAIR!''. sigh. Then I shake it off and do what I do best; force myself to re-focus on the positive.

You know, Mela, I was thinking about this the other day too. I''ve been through some crazy messed up sh!t in my life that I never talk about with anyone. And for the first few years after I had worked like mad to piece a life together, I used to have those kinds of thoughts a lot: ''These people have NO IDEA. They just don''t know how hard and awful things can be or how others struggle. Everything comes easy for them.'' Then gradually, prying below the surface, I started to realize that most people have crosses to bear. Many people that you wouldn''t expect have worked hard for, or struggled through, things you''d never expect. Pry below the surface and you find that Ms. Perfect Life suffered through the death of a child, and Mr. Perfect Life watched his mother and father be killed in a war, or that this person has been fighting cancer since he was 25 or that person was a runaway or abused or dealing with mental health challenges, or this person is a recovered drug addict, or has a brother who killed himself. Very, very few peoples'' lives are as seamless and free of pain as they appear on the surface. Many, if not most people carry some sort of burden, some of them unspeakable, and most of them unspoken. So I have learned to assume that whatever my troubles and challenges are or have been, to really fight down those feelings of bitterness when others seem to have an easy time.

Sure, it''s true that most people have no idea what it''s like to face the sorts of things that I''ve faced and am facing, and I have no idea what it''s like to face the sort of things that others have faced. So I just assume that each of us has our cross or our burden to bear and try not to think about the grass being greener.

Because you really just never know what others have been through, or how the grass really looks on the other side.

Just de-lurking to say that this is very, very true!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/21/2008 12:25:35 PM
Author: littlelysser

Thanks Lulu!

I''m starting to think I might possibly be prego...but I KNOW that I''ll be on here in a day or two saying that AFF has arrived...or my temps dropped or there is some indication that she''ll be arriving soon.

But I just checked my cervix and it was so high I could hardly reach it. I checked on FF, and the past two cycles it was low the 5 days prior to AFF coming...

This stinks...I so don''t want to get my stupid hopes up, like I do every month...but blergh! I''m afraid I''ve done it again!!!!

Lysser, there is a good chance! Not to feed the fire, but high cervix is an early sign of pregnancy. As is lots of watery CF, sore (*)(*)... I think it is possible more likely to be a symptom if it is unusual for you? Still, only that BFP is a true "symptom" LOL!

Can you post your chart? I am curious to see what FF is doing with your O-day and what your temps look like. Ignore if this is a strange request

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/21/2008 12:34:07 PM
Author: Sha

Date: 8/21/2008 9:58:25 AM
Author: Independent Gal

You know, Mela, I was thinking about this the other day too. I''ve been through some crazy messed up sh!t in my life that I never talk about with anyone. And for the first few years after I had worked like mad to piece a life together, I used to have those kinds of thoughts a lot: ''These people have NO IDEA. They just don''t know how hard and awful things can be or how others struggle. Everything comes easy for them.'' Then gradually, prying below the surface, I started to realize that most people have crosses to bear. Many people that you wouldn''t expect have worked hard for, or struggled through, things you''d never expect. Pry below the surface and you find that Ms. Perfect Life suffered through the death of a child, and Mr. Perfect Life watched his mother and father be killed in a war, or that this person has been fighting cancer since he was 25 or that person was a runaway or abused or dealing with mental health challenges, or this person is a recovered drug addict, or has a brother who killed himself. Very, very few peoples'' lives are as seamless and free of pain as they appear on the surface. Many, if not most people carry some sort of burden, some of them unspeakable, and most of them unspoken. So I have learned to assume that whatever my troubles and challenges are or have been, to really fight down those feelings of bitterness when others seem to have an easy time.

Sure, it''s true that most people have no idea what it''s like to face the sorts of things that I''ve faced and am facing, and I have no idea what it''s like to face the sort of things that others have faced. So I just assume that each of us has our cross or our burden to bear and try not to think about the grass being greener.

Because you really just never know what others have been through, or how the grass really looks on the other side.

Just de-lurking to say that this is very, very true!

I often use this method when I feel jealous of others... not to make light, but when I was younger and used to feel jealous of people like Brittany Spears who were young and thin and beautiful, I used to think to myself, "Well she has her own issues, maybe she is crazy!" Hmmm... I must be psychic!

I also like to think of things I have that others may not. Like, "Well she doesn''t have a PhD"... sometimes that works, sometimes not. There are days I''d trade that degree for a tight little ass.

 

[Pandora II]

Date: 8/21/2008 12:39:58 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 8/21/2008 12:25:35 PM
Author: littlelysser

Thanks Lulu!

I''m starting to think I might possibly be prego...but I KNOW that I''ll be on here in a day or two saying that AFF has arrived...or my temps dropped or there is some indication that she''ll be arriving soon.

But I just checked my cervix and it was so high I could hardly reach it. I checked on FF, and the past two cycles it was low the 5 days prior to AFF coming...

This stinks...I so don''t want to get my stupid hopes up, like I do every month...but blergh! I''m afraid I''ve done it again!!!!

Lysser, there is a good chance! Not to feed the fire, but high cervix is an early sign of pregnancy. As is lots of watery CF, sore (*)(*)... I think it is possible more likely to be a symptom if it is unusual for you? Still, only that BFP is a true ''symptom'' LOL!

Can you post your chart? I am curious to see what FF is doing with your O-day and what your temps look like. Ignore if this is a strange request

I think the important thing is if it''s ''different'' for you. Mine was super-high right up to the day AF arrived.

Fingers crossed.

 

[ChinaCat]

Robbie, Fisher, BB- NO IDEA what''s going on with all of you, as I don''t temp, but hoping you all get clarity soon!

LL and EBREE- My arms, legs, fingers, and eyes are crossed for you both!

Have you guys seen Oshinbreeze''s new avatar, of someone spanking Tinkerbell which in turn releases tons of fairy/pixie dust????? We need her to come over here and spank some Tinkerbell dust for all of you!!!


Mela- Well, it would be very cool to conceive a bebe in NYC! You would have a great story to tell him/her. But I really hope you don''t- tell him/her that is- I totally hope you get KTFU in NYC!

Amber- Wow, that blog really got to me. You are indeed a talented writer! Not many can be so funny, and yet so poignant. I can actually see little Miss Piper Jane! I don''t think it was "selfish" of you at all. Although it is such a great name!!!!!! Now what are you going to do if you have a boy?

These statistics just hurt my head. I was telling DH last night about the 20% chance each month and how low that sounded to me. He said he didn''t think it was that low, so I said, ok, well what if you really wanted something, and you knew that you only had a 20% chance of getting it? I used law school as an example- say you really wanted to get accepted to a certain school, and you knew you only had a 20% chance. Not too promising, right? But his response was- well, sure, but if I knew I had a 20% chance each month, then my odds are pretty good. Now, I don''t know WHY that is different, I barely passed stastistics, but it somewhow made me feel better.

 

[robbie3982]

Amber, I hope your friends respect your request. DH and I actually had a girl name that we both loved, Hailey, but then my cousin (the one famous for blowing up at me at Thanksgiving dinner and then making me her flower girl) named her diamond Hailey. I know it''s not the same as having an actual living thing using your name, but if we were to name a child Hailey she''d go around telling everyone that we copied her and that would annoy me.

LL, if we have a daughter, her middle name will be Grace too after MIL. All of MIL''s kids who have kids of their own have named a grandchild after her. Good thing I like that name! I''m not throwing anything on reserve. The only thing we can agree on is the middle name Grace, LOL.

DH wants Scarlett for a girl, but I''m not loving the nicknames for it. I really like the names Isabelle (love the nickname Izzy!), Charlotte, Sophia, Nora (haha I have a lot) and my absolute favorite at the moment is Logan. I love it for a girl or a boy. And since it starts with an L it would satisfy my mom that we''d be naming her after my grandmother Lenore. Nora would work for that too, but DH really doesn''t like that one at all.

For a boy, DH really wants Max (perhaps Maximus as the full name?), but again I''m not loving the nicknames. I really like Andrew and Logan (seriously, I''m obsessed with it right now). I''ve always wanted to name a boy Jack after my grandfather, but we already have a nephew named Jack (named well before I came into the picture).

I don''t think we have anything to worry about on the friend side, but there are a few cousins our age who just got married/are getting married soon who may start having kids soon.

 

[tiffanytwisted]

Oh Amber, have you seen the new Sports Illustrated cover? I won''t tell you whos on it but at first glance I thought he was wearing a red halter. Nope, it''s all his golds!

 

[AmberWaves]

Hey all,

Today is seemingly a good day! AFF is almost completely gone, last night I finally mastered my mom's mexican rice, and well... it's almost Friday. I want to thank all of you for your kind words on that blog, thankfully you're not the only ones who reacted kindly, thank goodness!

I'm fine with having to wait a little longer to have babies, I really am. As long as they'll be healthy when they do arrive, that's all that matters. And well... that she gets to keep her name. Apparently one of my cousins responded with an "I know how you feel, I wish I had thought of that previously!" The word is, one of my other cousins STOLE the first cousin's baby name! Yikes! It's the same cousin who stole OUR boy name for her dog.

Few mentions:

LL: Hope hope hope you get a BFP!!! Don't let all those cervix reachings go unneeded!

Ebree: Yay for the O!! Work eggy, work!!

Robbie, love your names that you chose, especially Charlotte! DH and I have this thing with NEEDING nicknames for our kids. With names like Paul and Amber, which are totally not able to be nicknamed, that's one of our requirements!

Mela: Can't wait to hear back from you about your NY trip! Hopefully it's fruitful!

Chinacat: 20% sounds sooo small to me, too. In fact, I totally failed statistics. And yes, I'm an accountant. Shame.

Pandora: I love love looking at your ring. Sigh.

Jcrow: thanks for the comment (both places), it's good to see you here, hope you'll be comfortable nerding along with the rest of us soon. It'll be fun to share TTC along with wedding planning with you! And your babies will be breathtaking, which is also a total bonus.

ETA: Tiffany, I am SO buying that magazine, as well as the frosted flakes he's supposed to be one. Now, I don't LIKE frosted flakes, but I sure do like Phelps!!

BB: Hi!

 

[blushingbride]

Amber - I am happy to hear you received positive reactions from your friends regarding your blog.

Robbie - Love the name Charlotte - definitely one of my faves for girls.

TT - That''s so funny, I saw the cover of Sports Illustrated...ugh, why does he have smile? Why can''t he be holding the medals so he can show off the swimmer''s bod of his? Why can''t he be wearing a cap and goggles? Why, why, why?

Feb2003 and LL - I''m going to stay away from the early pregnancy symptoms page for a while. It''s literally making me analyze every, little thing. It''s funny how some of these women jot down all there bodily functions each DPO. They''re not messing around!

Jcrow - Ditto on what Amber said - hope you''ll be delurking a bit more around here. From what I remember over in BWW, you''re a great researcher...you''ll fit right in here!

ChinaCat - the statistics hurt my head too. It is interesting to hear a man''s take on everything though. They''re definitely not the worriers we are.

 

[littlelysser]

Hey guys.

Well, I checked my cervix a minute ago, and there was some pink tinge. So I'm not too happy...I think I may be out for the month. Also feeling some stupid cramping.

Anyway, here is my chart!!!! I'd love to hear what you guys think.

ETA - this is with all of my temps included, even the ones I think are bunk.

ETAA - before the higher temp, it had my O date as the CD 17. Changed it to CD 18.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Lysser it ain't over until the fat lady sings the blues (or something like that

), so pink tinges mean nothing. Lots of women get spotting in their LP when they are preggo! Simply looking at your pattern of temps and CM, I think it makes sense to assume you O'd on either CD-17 or CD-18, it's hard to tell exactly since your pre-O temps are so varied.

ETA where does it put your O day if you use the FAM method? You can choose it under options for determining O-day.

 

[ChinaCat]

Wait a second, I think this comment from Robbie just flew under the radar:

"DH and I actually had a girl name that we both loved, Hailey, but then my cousin (the one famous for blowing up at me at Thanksgiving dinner and then making me her flower girl) named her diamond Hailey."

She actually named her diamond??? And named it "Hailey"??????????????? Anyone else think this is cuckoo? I mean, I read your thread about her making you a flowergirl- frakkin hysterical, btw, so I see how it''s not totally weird coming from her- but still!!!!
If you named your child Hailey, sure she might actually go around saying something like" Oh that Robbie, she is so jealous of me, she totally copies me. I mean, she just gave birth to an actual human being and named her Hailey. You know my diamond is named Hailey, right? So she clearly named her daughter after my ring!"

Ummm, you know who sounds crazy in that sentence, right? Please name your child Hailey, so dumb dumb cousin can actually say this out loud!!!

LL- It ain''t over till it''s over!!!

 

[littlelysser]

DD - My O date doesn''t change from CD 18, regardless of which method FF uses.

I''m kind of annoyed at myself for getting myself a bit excited, when I TOLD MYSELF NOT TO!!!

I stink.

Feh.

 

[AmberWaves]

I remember from Robbie''s BWW posts about that cousin, and I am soooo not surprised she named her diamond! I named my diamond too, her name is "My first diamond".

 

[Independent Gal]

Date: 8/21/2008 4:42:45 PM
Author: ChinaCat
Wait a second, I think this comment from Robbie just flew under the radar:


''DH and I actually had a girl name that we both loved, Hailey, but then my cousin (the one famous for blowing up at me at Thanksgiving dinner and then making me her flower girl) named her diamond Hailey.''


She actually named her diamond??? And named it ''Hailey''??????????????? Anyone else think this is cuckoo? I mean, I read your thread about her making you a flowergirl- frakkin hysterical, btw, so I see how it''s not totally weird coming from her- but still!!!!

If you named your child Hailey, sure she might actually go around saying something like'' Oh that Robbie, she is so jealous of me, she totally copies me. I mean, she just gave birth to an actual human being and named her Hailey. You know my diamond is named Hailey, right? So she clearly named her daughter after my ring!''


Ummm, you know who sounds crazy in that sentence, right? Please name your child Hailey, so dumb dumb cousin can actually say this out loud!!!

LL- It ain''t over till it''s over!!!

Ahahaha!!! this is the cousin named after the biblical psycho-killer right? I think you can still call your kid Hailey.

LL, Chinacat is right. What you''re described could juuuust as easily be implantation as it very early AFF signs. You just don''t know until it''s over. I had 4 or 5 days of constant spotting before my BFP.

 

[Independent Gal]

Amber, if I were friend or family reading your blog, you bet your socks I would not go near the wonderful name you have chosen for your future child. I think you did good.

Ladies, if you need some encouraging thoughts, I remember reading that something like a whopping 95-98% of women (before the tail-end of their 30''s) WILL eventually have a child if they try long enough and get the proper intervention if they need it. The number of women who just can''t have a child at all is very, very small. So when you are feeling particularly frustrated, maybe remind yourself of this: that the chances are exceedingly high that you WILL have a baby to snuggle, and name, and raise, and love, even if it takes a while. Even if it takes 2 years. Even if you have to go through what Lisa went through to get there. Every odd is in your favour that it will happen and you will have a child. Hold on to that thought if it helps!

 

[lovelylulu]

Date: 8/21/2008 4:42:45 PM
Author: ChinaCat
Wait a second, I think this comment from Robbie just flew under the radar:

''DH and I actually had a girl name that we both loved, Hailey, but then my cousin (the one famous for blowing up at me at Thanksgiving dinner and then making me her flower girl) named her diamond Hailey.''

She actually named her diamond??? And named it ''Hailey''??????????????? Anyone else think this is cuckoo? I mean, I read your thread about her making you a flowergirl- frakkin hysterical, btw, so I see how it''s not totally weird coming from her- but still!!!!
If you named your child Hailey, sure she might actually go around saying something like'' Oh that Robbie, she is so jealous of me, she totally copies me. I mean, she just gave birth to an actual human being and named her Hailey. You know my diamond is named Hailey, right? So she clearly named her daughter after my ring!''

Ummm, you know who sounds crazy in that sentence, right? Please name your child Hailey, so dumb dumb cousin can actually say this out loud!!!

LL- It ain''t over till it''s over!!!

Ha! china cat - my thoughts exactly. today has been madness, but i''ve been reading posts and i definitely had to do a doubletake on that sentence. cuckoo for sure!

 

[lovelylulu]

Date: 8/21/2008 4:52:15 PM
Author: littlelysser
DD - My O date doesn''t change from CD 18, regardless of which method FF uses.

I''m kind of annoyed at myself for getting myself a bit excited, when I TOLD MYSELF NOT TO!!!

I stink.

Feh.

LL: you certainly do not stink. it''s basically impossible not to feel hopeful/excited during the TWW. and like all the others said - it''s not over, ''till it''s over...

 

[lovelylulu]

as for me: are seriously pounding headaches an early sign of pg? i am dealing with a horrible one right now and i had one early this week, too. though i think that it''s more llikely a sign of a very tough work week...

 

[robbie3982]

LOL, yes, that cousin. My family (her and her mom mostly, lol) is weird and names everything. Diamonds, cars...I think they/we may have even named a zucchini once.

I''m over the name Hailey now. If I still really liked it I don''t think her naming her diamond that would stop me from using it, but it did make me like it less. I think that might be one reason I''m not too keen on Scarlett too. My cousin has been obsessed with Gone With The Wind for years.

LL, I agree that it''s not over yet!

 

[february2003bride]

Date: 8/21/2008 4:28:13 PM
Author: littlelysser
Hey guys.

Well, I checked my cervix a minute ago, and there was some pink tinge. So I''m not too happy...I think I may be out for the month. Also feeling some stupid cramping.

Anyway, here is my chart!!!! I''d love to hear what you guys think.

ETA - this is with all of my temps included, even the ones I think are bunk.

ETAA - before the higher temp, it had my O date as the CD 17. Changed it to CD 18.

LL- Before I found out I was preggo with DS#2, I spotted and then my period never really started. I tested and it was positive. The spotting was implantation bleeding. So hang in there until AFF shows her face!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 8/21/2008 6:02:41 PM
Author: lovelylulu
as for me: are seriously pounding headaches an early sign of pg? i am dealing with a horrible one right now and i had one early this week, too. though i think that it''s more llikely a sign of a very tough work week...

It can be! I had headaches on 7 and 8 DPO and got BFP on 11DPO.

Of course I also had heachaches around then in the months previous as well... siggghhhh... it really is true.. .all signs of pg are signs of AFF. You just can''t win.

 

[littlelysser]

You guys are all just the best, really.

While I'm not going to go on a all night drinking bender tonight, I have a feeling this cycle is a no go.

Feh.

But you guys really do rock.

 

[tiffanytwisted]

LL- I agree to that it''s not over until AFF truly shows, but I am sorry if this cycle isn''t the one. Big hugs.

Lulu- I had intense headaches when I was pregnant. It really was one of the first signs. I do get headaches before AFF but these were worse. Good luck!

IG-Thanks for the stats of encouragement. I needed that!! Congrats on the (maybe) boys. What fun!!!!

Amber-loved your blog entry. And after reading that there''s no way in he** I''d steal your name!

Dreamer- I''m so glad you still hang out with us and offer stats/advice. Hopefully we''ll be moving over to the next thread soon!

Robbie-that cousin of yours is a piece of work. I can totally understand why you like the name less. By the way, Max is my dog''s name but I wish now I would have saved it for a son!!

Blushing- I don''t know but I would think traveling like that across many time zones could throw off O. Maybe over the next few days you''ll see more of a temp pattern. I was thinking, if Michael Phelps held the medals over his face, then we could totally see his body and would have no need for the goggles!

EBree- good luck!

Mela- Have fun in NY!!

ChinaCat- the statistics hurt my head too. And I loved statistics, until I started the TTC journey anyway!!

 

[E B]

LL- You have the sore nips too? Ouch! They''re still very sore, even today. TMI: I just went to "check" on them again and almost yelped. They were like this the last time I was pregnant, though I don''t think it''s a sign of pregnancy unless they stay sore throughout the 2ww, or become sore toward the end. Either way....owwwww.

As for the spotting, it could very well be implantation spotting! Fingers crossed it is!

And thank you all for the good luck dust! Good luck dust to each and every one of you, too!

I''m counting myself as 1 DPO today, even though I suspect I could be 2-3 DPO. Since I don''t know for sure, I''m going to go with what my trusty monitor says, and wait 13 more days to test. If I wait to test until 15 DPO (unless AFF shows before), it''ll be DH''s birthday.

 

[tiffanytwisted]

I''m having a cycle nightmare. Maybe you ladies can help. I did have EWCM on 2 days of my cycle, which is normally about the time that I would have ovulated. My monitor said "Low" all month so far. I''m on CD 23. I do realize that some women have anovulatory cycles at some point or another, so I''m not really freaked out if that''s what happens this month. But my temps have been strange and I have been very exact as far as taking it at the same time.
So according to fertility friend I have ovulated, here''s my chart using the "advanced" method: