The Daily Trumpet 12-31-2016

[Matata]

Jeff Sessions's -- Leavin' the Past Behind
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-attorney-general_us_586680bce4b0eb58648909c8

Russia is Electrifying
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vermont-electricity-department-finds-malware-linked-russian-hackers-n701726

Skiing Down the Ethics Slippery Slope
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tickets-new-years-eve-party_us_5866b17ce4b0eb5864894d62

Pin That Tweet For All To See, Putin Is as Smart as Me
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-vladimir-putin_us_5866b8e1e4b0eb58648952e0

 

[redwood66]

Are you going to do this every day?

 

[Matata]

Only when there is sufficient fodder.

 

[Calliecake]

Look who this country elected. Without a doubt there will be sufficient fodder. His New Year's Eve tweet sounded like it was coming from a fifth grader. I don't know how the republicans are not embarrassed.

 

[redwood66]

Well I guess every day then, because I am sure you can find stuff to post. Might it be better to make one thread and you can have a running tally? Rather than muck up the whole Hangout first page? That way I can take a look in one place at how many different publications/opinion pages are losing their effing minds. I care about the people here at PS who truly feel their world has turned upside down, but part of me takes a bit of glee in the media just losing it over every little thing about Trump. Keep posting your links as some of them are quite entertaining.

 

[redwood66]

Skiing Down the Ethics Slippery Slope[/b]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tickets-new-years-eve-party_us_5866b17ce4b0eb5864894d62

This is definitely a problem because I could have curried favor with the Donald with a $500+ dollar ticket to a party had I been fast enough to procure one.

ETA - Obama's $10K a plate fundraisers - those people did not want to curry favor at all.

 

[Karl_K]

rofl more fake news.
just shows how lame and corrupt the press has become.

1 laptop of an employee who use it outside the secure network had malware on it that may have came from Russia(it is common to make it look like it is from a different country to mask the real culprits.).
Given the current state of security that is not surprising. Locked down networks with in depth security get successfully hit rarely but it happens. If they are good they will be alerted quickly. Usually it is caused by keyboard to chair interface error.
As a matter of fact a good security administrator assumes that every computer is infected and works from there.

Everywhere else it is very common to have malware infected computers.
I would be a safe bet that over 50% of the computers of people reading this right now have some form of malware on them.
I run into malware that is probably written in Russia all the time on peoples computers.
Some of the most common malware tool kits are written in Russia, US, China, and Brazil.
The truth is that the security level of the entire computer/software industry stinks and that includes phones and tablets.

 

[Calliecake]

Are you going to do this every day?

Red, I can completely see your point. On the other hand does this sound like a leader who wants to unite people?

Trump's Tweet. "Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love"

What adult acts like this? You would be disappointed if your kids acted like this. I never thought I would see the day our president was tweeting how smart Putin is either. Somehow I feel my worry in his leadership is justified.

 

[VRBeauty]

A diplomatic, prezidential, uniting message from your prez-elect.

Can't wait to hear his inaugural address.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Look who this country elected. Without a doubt there will be sufficient fodder. His New Year's Eve tweet sounded like it was coming from a fifth grader. I don't know how the republicans are not embarrassed.

Same can be said about Obama's 8 yrs! ,and no I didn't vote for Trump.. but my wife is one of the millions of deplorables who did voted for Trump..

 

[Karl_K]

"President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is withholding decades’ worth of records from his career ahead of his Senate confirmation hearings early next month, according to an exhaustive report issued Friday by progressive advocacy groups."

How about doing something real journalists would do and confirm the story instead of publishing biased could be garbage without doing any work to verify it?

 

[redwood66]

"President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is withholding decades’ worth of records from his career ahead of his Senate confirmation hearings early next month, according to an exhaustive report issued Friday by progressive advocacy groups."

How about doing something real journalists would do and confirm the story instead of publishing biased garbage without doing any work to verify it?

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

 

[Matata]

"President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is withholding decades’ worth of records from his career ahead of his Senate confirmation hearings early next month, according to an exhaustive report issued Friday by progressive advocacy groups."

How about doing something real journalists would do and confirm the story instead of publishing biased could be garbage without doing any work to verify it?[/quote]
People don't want facts. Trump presented voters proof -- through his actions and words -- of his irrefutable stupidity, misogyny, dishonesty/outright unabashed unapologetic self-aggrandizing LIES, unethical character and immature temperament and he was elected anyway. And yet his comrade Hopers still think he will make America great again.

 

[redwood66]

No. I just know that she wouldn't have for sure.

Choice - Something might be crap or something that is for sure crap. I'll take the "might be" any day.

 

[Matata]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

 

[redwood66]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

This works both ways in the media. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts about Hillary and Obama.

 

[Karl_K]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

I want facts that are verified as facts not opinion and fake news passed along as a fact. I guess that is too much to ask for from today's media.
I don't want anyone to interpret that facts for me either, I can do that for myself, thank you very much.

 

[Matata]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

I want facts that are verified as facts not opinion and fake news passed along as a fact. I guess that is too much to ask for from today's media.
I don't want anyone to interpret that facts for me either, I can do that for myself, thank you very much.

You can't interpret a "fact." It is what it is. You can deny it, spin it to your comfort level, but you can't interpret it. If you want to be educated about important issues so you can make humane choices, you have to do the work yourself. And that's where we fail. For any number of reasons and excuses, we depend on the media to spoon feed us. Blaming the media is a cop-out. If we want change, we have to make it. So for any of us who are unhappy about the way the media presents issues -- protest, write letters to news agencies, boycott, make noise. And no lame excuse that it won't make a difference because no one will listen and nothing will change. That's another cop-out.

 

[redwood66]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

I want facts that are verified as facts not opinion and fake news passed along as a fact. I guess that is too much to ask for from today's media.
I don't want anyone to interpret that facts for me either, I can do that for myself, thank you very much.

You can't interpret a "fact." It is what it is. You can deny it, spin it to your comfort level, but you can't interpret it. If you want to be educated about important issues so you can make humane choices, you have to do the work yourself. And that's where we fail. For any number of reasons and excuses, we depend on the media to spoon feed us. Blaming the media is a cop-out. If we want change, we have to make it. So for any of us who are unhappy about the way the media presents issues -- protest, write letters to news agencies, boycott, make noise. And no lame excuse that it won't make a difference because no one will listen and nothing will change. That's another cop-out.

And you say all this in a thread that you started with links to the Huffington Post as your Daily Trumpet news? That is quite hilarious and ironic actually.

 

[Matata]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

This works both ways in the media. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts about Hillary and Obama.

You have beat that poor dead horse into mincemeat. It is irrelevant. She is not prez-elect; he will out of office soon. They are history. Those terrible "facts" that partly caused Clinton to lose were "fake news" courtesy of our own FBI and dear comrade Putin. Furthermore, when presented with the "facts" that they were indeed fake, those who hate Clinton still continue to believe them. There is a saying that if you repeat something 3 times or you hear something 3 times, it becomes your fact. Here is where our vulnerability sits.

 

[Matata]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

I want facts that are verified as facts not opinion and fake news passed along as a fact. I guess that is too much to ask for from today's media.
I don't want anyone to interpret that facts for me either, I can do that for myself, thank you very much.

You can't interpret a "fact." It is what it is. You can deny it, spin it to your comfort level, but you can't interpret it. If you want to be educated about important issues so you can make humane choices, you have to do the work yourself. And that's where we fail. For any number of reasons and excuses, we depend on the media to spoon feed us. Blaming the media is a cop-out. If we want change, we have to make it. So for any of us who are unhappy about the way the media presents issues -- protest, write letters to news agencies, boycott, make noise. And no lame excuse that it won't make a difference because no one will listen and nothing will change. That's another cop-out.

And you say all this in a thread that you started with links to the Huffington Post as your Daily Trumpet news? That is quite hilarious and ironic actually.

I will happily ready anything you want to post that you think is factier, more facty, and endowed with eloquent truthiness.

 

[ksinger]

Just wanted you to know I'm enjoying you today Matata.

 

[redwood66]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

This works both ways in the media. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts about Hillary and Obama.

You have beat that poor dead horse into mincemeat. It is irrelevant. She is not prez-elect; he will out of office soon. They are history. Those terrible "facts" that partly caused Clinton to lose were "fake news" courtesy of our own FBI and dear comrade Putin. Furthermore, when presented with the "facts" that they were indeed fake, those who hate Clinton still continue to believe them. There is a saying that if you repeat something 3 times or you hear something 3 times, it becomes your fact. Here is where our vulnerability sits.

No actually I think that Obama thinks so much of himself that he will remain in DC to be a problem for Trump. Unlike Bush who left and refused to comment on the new president's tenure, Obama cannot allow that.

 

[redwood66]

Just wanted you to know I'm enjoying you today Matata.

Me too.

 

[Karl_K]

You can't interpret a "fact." It is what it is. You can deny it, spin it to your comfort level, but you can't interpret it.

I beg to respectably differ.

in·ter·pret
inˈtərprət/
verb

1. explain the meaning of (information, words, or actions).


2. understand (an action, mood, or way of behaving) as having a particular meaning or significance.

I certainly can do both of those with a fact.

 

[Matata]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

This works both ways in the media. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts about Hillary and Obama.

You have beat that poor dead horse into mincemeat. It is irrelevant. She is not prez-elect; he will out of office soon. They are history. Those terrible "facts" that partly caused Clinton to lose were "fake news" courtesy of our own FBI and dear comrade Putin. Furthermore, when presented with the "facts" that they were indeed fake, those who hate Clinton still continue to believe them. There is a saying that if you repeat something 3 times or you hear something 3 times, it becomes your fact. Here is where our vulnerability sits.

No actually I think that Obama thinks so much of himself that he will remain in DC to be a problem for Trump. Unlike Bush who left and refused to comment on the new president's tenure, Obama cannot allow that.

I'm counting on it. It makes me hopier. Bush couldn't stay in DC. No one wanted him and he had nothing useful to offer so they happily waved bye-bye as his truthiness hightailed it back to Texas. Although I must admit that Bush is a genius compared to the Tweeter-elect.

 

[Matata]

You can't interpret a "fact." It is what it is. You can deny it, spin it to your comfort level, but you can't interpret it.

I beg to respectably differ.

in·ter·pret
inˈtərprət/
verb

1. explain the meaning of (information, words, or actions).


2. understand (an action, mood, or way of behaving) as having a particular meaning or significance.

I certainly can do both of those with a fact.

Information and words are data not fact. Data can be interpreted any way you want. Actions are a whole 'nother animal. Any interpretation of information, words, actions is through the lens (beliefs and experiences) of the interpreter unless/until presented empirically.

Fact: liquid water is wet. You can't interpret it any other way. You can explain the molecular structure and how hydrogen and oxygen bond to form water, but you can't change the fact that liquid water is wet nor that it is composed of hydrogen and oxygen.

 

[Dancing Fire]

True facts...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/eight-years-barack-obama-obliterated-democrat-party-record-numbers/

 

[Karl_K]

Lets consider one of the issues raised in one of the stories linked.

Lets for sake of argument say that there are missing years.
That makes it a fact.
I can interpret that as meaning that it is incomplete.

I can have an OPINION on why it is incomplete once I have verified that it is indeed incomplete.
I should clearly mark that as opinion.
Now read the story again is it presenting an unverified fact that may be false or is it mostly an unmarked OPINION on an unverified fact that may be false?.

 

[redwood66]

This is the problem with all media. There are very few Bob Woodwards and his kind left any longer. They all want clicks and to write their opinion even though they call themselves reporters.

Bull. As I stated to Karl, there is a large number of people in the US who do not want facts and especially if they are uncomfortable facts. The media is not totally responsible for the collective idiocy that has devolved large numbers of us in to 3-second attention spans.

This works both ways in the media. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts about Hillary and Obama.

You have beat that poor dead horse into mincemeat. It is irrelevant. She is not prez-elect; he will out of office soon. They are history. Those terrible "facts" that partly caused Clinton to lose were "fake news" courtesy of our own FBI and dear comrade Putin. Furthermore, when presented with the "facts" that they were indeed fake, those who hate Clinton still continue to believe them. There is a saying that if you repeat something 3 times or you hear something 3 times, it becomes your fact. Here is where our vulnerability sits.

No actually I think that Obama thinks so much of himself that he will remain in DC to be a problem for Trump. Unlike Bush who left and refused to comment on the new president's tenure, Obama cannot allow that.

I'm counting on it. It makes me hopier. Bush couldn't stay in DC. No one wanted him and he had nothing useful to offer so they happily waved bye-bye as his truthiness hightailed it back to Texas. Although I must admit that Bush is a genius compared to the Tweeter-elect.

Much of America does not want Obama in DC to attempt to undermine the new administration. If he does then 2018 will prove to be an even bigger win for Republicans provided Trump does not implode before then. If the dems are not careful they will lose more ground with constant bombardment and obstructionism. Not to mention the ridiculous opinion pieces in the likes of NYT and HuffPo.